| Measles .a worry 13:33 - Jan 20 with 4614 views | onehunglow |
Anything to do with illegals
Seem the big cities mainly affected
We don’t know who is coming here and with what |  |
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| Measles .a worry on 13:59 - Jan 28 with 781 views | onehunglow |
| Measles .a worry on 13:42 - Jan 28 by felixstowe_jack |
According to you if everyone caught it then 7 million in the UK would have died.
As you well know the covoid virus continually mutates and their have been at least 5 variants in the UK. Fortunately those vaccinated are 80% less likely to catch it and will suffer very mild symptoms. All thanks to a successful vaccine programme which means no more lock downs and everyone can get on will their normal lives
Thank to vaccines no more polio cases in UK. No smallpox deaths in the UK, vastly reduced mumps, measles and wooping coughs all which caused many childhood deaths in unvaccinated days. |
We have to understand the views of Contro are both offensive and ludicrous to most . | |
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| Measles .a worry on 09:41 - Jan 29 with 736 views | controversial_jack |
| Measles .a worry on 13:42 - Jan 28 by felixstowe_jack |
According to you if everyone caught it then 7 million in the UK would have died.
As you well know the covoid virus continually mutates and their have been at least 5 variants in the UK. Fortunately those vaccinated are 80% less likely to catch it and will suffer very mild symptoms. All thanks to a successful vaccine programme which means no more lock downs and everyone can get on will their normal lives
Thank to vaccines no more polio cases in UK. No smallpox deaths in the UK, vastly reduced mumps, measles and wooping coughs all which caused many childhood deaths in unvaccinated days. |
The only thing that reduced covid cases was lockdowns. When we opened up cases increased considerably, despite mass vaccinations. Apparently, there are loads of cases now, despite mass vaccinations. So, tell me again, how has vaccinations eradicated covid? | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 18:13 - Jan 31 with 698 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Measles .a worry on 09:41 - Jan 29 by controversial_jack |
The only thing that reduced covid cases was lockdowns. When we opened up cases increased considerably, despite mass vaccinations. Apparently, there are loads of cases now, despite mass vaccinations. So, tell me again, how has vaccinations eradicated covid? |
Don't think ANYONE ever said covoid had been eradicated.
Just the successful vaccination programme allowed lockdown to be ended and life to get back to normal. | |
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| Measles .a worry on 18:16 - Jan 31 with 695 views | felixstowe_jack |
Cases of measles doubled last week in the West Midlands the part of the country with the lowest MMR vacination rate.
Coincidence or result of stupid people not getting their children vaccinated. | |
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| Measles .a worry on 18:56 - Jan 31 with 685 views | controversial_jack |
| Measles .a worry on 18:13 - Jan 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Don't think ANYONE ever said covoid had been eradicated.
Just the successful vaccination programme allowed lockdown to be ended and life to get back to normal. |
Therefore, vaccinations do not prevent transmission or eradicate diseases. The lockdown is what brought cases down. Covid is still around in large numbers, therefore the vaccination programme didn't eradicate the disease as it was claimed it would | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 19:51 - Jan 31 with 677 views | Gwyn737 |
| Measles .a worry on 18:56 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
Therefore, vaccinations do not prevent transmission or eradicate diseases. The lockdown is what brought cases down. Covid is still around in large numbers, therefore the vaccination programme didn't eradicate the disease as it was claimed it would |
I’m not sure what your end game is.
Is it stopping all vaccinations? | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 20:12 - Jan 31 with 667 views | controversial_jack |
| Measles .a worry on 19:51 - Jan 31 by Gwyn737 |
I’m not sure what your end game is.
Is it stopping all vaccinations? |
I don’t have an agenda. Pointing out that, improved living conditions have done far more. Removing poverty and deprivation is what we should be aiming for and not papering over the cracks | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 20:39 - Jan 31 with 665 views | AnotherJohn |
| Measles .a worry on 20:12 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
I don’t have an agenda. Pointing out that, improved living conditions have done far more. Removing poverty and deprivation is what we should be aiming for and not papering over the cracks |
There are lots of things to consider, including:
The so-called epidemiological transition and the emergence of diseases of affluence suggest that poverty alleviation alone will not solve all our problems.
What Rene Dubos called the plasticity of microbes, and the ability of bacteria and viruses to mutate and evolve to defeat our defences, mean that solutions such as antibiotics, vaccines or even public health improvements also need to be adjusted over time.
The ability of humans to respond by building natural immunity etc may work at the population level and allow the species to survive, but does not help individuals who die because they lacked an effective treatment. [Post edited 31 Jan 2024 20:41]
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| Measles .a worry on 20:47 - Jan 31 with 660 views | Gwyn737 |
| Measles .a worry on 20:12 - Jan 31 by controversial_jack |
I don’t have an agenda. Pointing out that, improved living conditions have done far more. Removing poverty and deprivation is what we should be aiming for and not papering over the cracks |
So at what level of reduced poverty does vaccination become redundant?
What should we do about vaccination in the meantime? Stop?
Does the same apply for vaccine research? | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 10:38 - Feb 1 with 620 views | controversial_jack |
| Measles .a worry on 20:47 - Jan 31 by Gwyn737 |
So at what level of reduced poverty does vaccination become redundant?
What should we do about vaccination in the meantime? Stop?
Does the same apply for vaccine research? |
It's difficult to put a figure on it. We don't have to stop vaccinating, but there's little point in continuing, it's why we have stopped mass vaccinations for covid. Most ppl don't want anymore jabs
Lockdowns are not popular , but are the most effective ways of stopping transmission. It's what happened during the Spanish flu of 1918. Some cities in the US had lock downs, masks and quarantines, Those that did fared much better than those that didn't. There was no vaccine then, but the virus ran it's course just as covid has. It wasn't science that reduced covid, it was common sense and discipline - from most anyway | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 09:16 - Feb 5 with 572 views | AnotherJohn |
The big news item today is the UK's poor performance in child health. It is said that low vaccination uptake, high rates of tooth decay, and poor nutrition are key factors leading to increased rates of child hospitalisation. The explanation being put forward is social inequality and poor child health in the most vulnerable communities. However, one question here is whether this underplays the specific impact of the cultural factors discussed in this thread. It is hard to ignore statistics that show that the % of all UK live births associated with foreign-born mothers is now over 30%, the highest ever.
https://www.thenationalnews.co
A case of more research needed? | | | |
| Measles .a worry on 14:30 - Feb 5 with 540 views | Flashberryjack |
| Measles .a worry on 09:16 - Feb 5 by AnotherJohn |
The big news item today is the UK's poor performance in child health. It is said that low vaccination uptake, high rates of tooth decay, and poor nutrition are key factors leading to increased rates of child hospitalisation. The explanation being put forward is social inequality and poor child health in the most vulnerable communities. However, one question here is whether this underplays the specific impact of the cultural factors discussed in this thread. It is hard to ignore statistics that show that the % of all UK live births associated with foreign-born mothers is now over 30%, the highest ever.
https://www.thenationalnews.co
A case of more research needed? |
We are slowly but surely turning into another poor African country. |  |
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| Measles .a worry on 15:38 - Feb 5 with 533 views | AnotherJohn |
This is the sentence from the link above that caught my eye.
"London had the highest percentage of births out of all the English regions and Wales where one or both parents were born outside the UK, with two thirds of such live births in the capital last year."
That would be 2022. Going back to the OP that may confirm our collective hypothesis regarding why London has low measles vaccination uptake. | | | |
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