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UK/EU negotiations
at 11:39 13 Nov 2026

Does that figure take into account any savings made or is it just spend?
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UK/EU negotiations
at 20:00 12 Nov 2026

It’s very complicated. Yes there’s spending Tom insider but we’ve had many threads on how poor pensioners are too.

Posting a bias tweet as fact doesn’t really help.
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UK/EU negotiations
at 18:37 12 Nov 2026

What happens to the figures when pensions are a taken out of the welfare budget and other impact of an older population has on nhs spending?
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The fear that dare not speak its name? Population replacement
at 16:58 12 Nov 2026

Absolutely. Stupid and completely counterproductive.
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By heck Grommit !
at 16:21 12 Nov 2026

Neither of those things are true.

1 Muslim was voted into the Senate and 7 into the house.

The speech in Michigan was practically all in English with the only exceptions being:

• "Inshallah" ("God willing"), used twice.
• "Alhamdulillah" ("praise be to God"), used once.
• "Habibi" ("my dear" or "buddy"), used once when addressing Vice President JD Vance

I agree with JACKMANANDBOY, 'It is simple if you tolerate intolerance you get intolerance'.
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UK/EU negotiations
at 20:00 10 Nov 2026

People don’t seem to want to talk about that.

It can be tricky to talk about wider welfare issues as the conversation often gets turned back to immigration.

I’m not minimising the issues (particularly illegal) immigration brings, but when was the last time we had a thread about the NEET crisis? Or the possible over diagnosis of some mental health elements? Or the shocking academic performance of white free school meal kids?


The welfare bill is £340 billion. There’s a lot to talk about that’s not all immigration.
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Andy Burnham
at 12:33 10 Nov 2026

As I said earler I think it's at least 10 years till we have any sort of rejoin referendum. I also think that the should be a higher % of the vote required for it to pass.

It's not ablut the length of time that passed - it should be decided on what people want.

In the meantime the arguments need to keep being made. It doesn't have to be petulant, it needs to be thorough and not based on emotion.

The diretion of travel is only one way atm. This will change I'm sure as details come out. That's a good thing.
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Andy Burnham
at 12:29 10 Nov 2026

They are very different markets to be sure.

The reduction in European exports hits swathes of the UK fishing community and probably explains why so many are shifting to closer ties with the EU. (whiule there are some that benefit as I see earlier)

I appreciate that the original deal was/is poot but I dont think we should hold tit to a fantasy deal either.
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Andy Burnham
at 20:38 9 Nov 2026

Similar story for farmers.
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Andy Burnham
at 20:37 9 Nov 2026

No, I don’t.

But I do think things were much better, especially for smaller outfits, before leaving.
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Andy Burnham
at 12:14 9 Nov 2026

Do you think the fishing industry was better off before Brexit?
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Andy Burnham
at 12:13 9 Nov 2026

Is your point that a referendum result can never be reversed?

Democracy means we should all be represented. The fact that polling shows that support for rejoining the EU is rising (well above 50%) means we must continue to have the conversation.

As I said earlier, I think the numbers are falsy high as we don't know the cost of rejoining. Another reason why it's positive to keep taking about it. Realistically, I think we're probably about 10 years away from getting close to another vote and I reckon that about right.

Labour won the last election but that doesn't stopthe other parties still campaigning. It's how democracy works.
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Andy Burnham
at 11:56 8 Nov 2026

Polling to rejoin the EU is only going in one direction.

It’s a false position atm as we don’t know what that would mean. When the nuts and bolts of what it would actually look like I’d imagine we’ll see a drop.

However, we do have to continue to have the conversation. It’s no good saying we voted out and that’s it. That’s not how democracy works.
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Trumper
at 10:19 8 Nov 2026

He’s chosen violence.

The new secretary of state is an awful person.

He’s also appointed Dana White as press secretary, I assume just for a laugh.
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Quiet Quitting
at 17:29 7 Nov 2026

I don’t think quiet quitting is a new thing.

Go back 25 years and mates who worked in Ford Bridgend, Port Talbot and Trostre had the easiest, best paid jobs I’ve ever known.

The idea that this is a new thing is for the birds.
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Andy Burnham
at 17:46 4 Nov 2026

I can see that.

Although many Brexit supporters were ok with being part of the single market which has for a long time had a financial contribution element.

Can’t have both.

I would like to see what amount we ‘re talking about but I am in favour of alignment in food and agriculture alignment.
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Trumper
at 17:42 4 Nov 2026

Same point, WR.

Nothing can get done - campaigning dominates.

Difficult to make hard choices as you’ll be out.
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Trumper
at 17:17 4 Nov 2026

US politics is mad.

Having high stakes elections every two years means that their politicians spend a huge amount of time in campaign mode. Makes you wonder how much more would get done if they didnt lose all this time.

It’s so hard to pick things out of midterms as the incumbent party usually takes a hammering.

I suppose the were some big shocks in places like Kansas which probably is a bit of a barometer of feelings.

The whole race in Texas was crazy to the point of cartoonish. Maybe our resident Texan can make some sense of it for us?…
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Trumper
at 17:11 4 Nov 2026

I agree with your concerns.

Forget the left and right stuff, Trump’s policies are really bad for us. I can’t imagine what on earth would make a Brit a Trump supporter 🤷🏻
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The changing income tax landscape
at 15:02 2 Nov 2026

I has in London for a few days last week and went for a walk that included passing Highgate Cemetery.

I coudn't help but chuckle that it costs a tenner to see the tomb of karl Marx. The irony!
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