| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money 17:28 - Feb 24 with 1278 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
https://www.hansardsociety.org
There are two options available
a) The outrageous option A. £15.6 billion
b) the Absolutely obscene option B. £39.8 billion
The fact that option B is even considered is an outrage.
These figures have sort of leaked and looks well dodgy to me. This could be the next HNG mess up.
Option A involved a " full decant" where the HoC and HoL are relocated for a few years. Option B is a " partisa decant " a gradual fleecing of the taxpayer.
Where do these figures come from. £15 billion ? £15,000,000,000. Wow for one building . The taxpayer is being sold a pup.
If the MPs and Lords refuse to 'fully decant' they will add a whopping £24 billion to the bill. That really would be taking the urine. £2000 per UK taxpayer. [Post edited 24 Feb 17:47]
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| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 18:51 - Mar 2 with 167 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 21:54 - Feb 28 by Whiterockin |
26 years of Labour policies and getting thrown out for being useless the facts speak for themselves. One more term under another party and failure will prove to be the end. |
UK in recent times have d had disastrous governments. Cameron for the disaster Brexit vote. Then Boris for gross mis-management and alleged mass fraudulent behaviour in the COVID crisis. Now Andrew and Mandelson paid by the taxpayer and working for foreign agents.
No talk of reform. The Senedd has been a success compared to the Westminster "eff" fest. Gethin wad the worst and he is a real small fry.. [Post edited 3 Mar 17:01]
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| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 19:06 - Mar 2 with 158 views | max936 |
| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 11:07 - Feb 27 by Whiterockin |
The main problem with the Senedd John is not only the cost but it is driving us backwards. Services are worse off here as are prospects for youngsters and the reason so any are leaving. I don't think the cost would be an issue if they were delivering, they are not and its the reason that there will be a radical change in three months. As I have said previously if things in Wales do not improve in the next Welsh parliament questions will be correctly asked as too exactly what is its purpose. |
Exactly what has the Senedd achieved so far apart from a drain on Wales's finances, its been a disaster its just a mothers meeting room for them to chat shite and to discuss on where to next waste taxpayers money and spend millions upon millions on developments in Cardiff. |  | | |
| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 00:17 - Mar 3 with 122 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 19:06 - Mar 2 by max936 |
Exactly what has the Senedd achieved so far apart from a drain on Wales's finances, its been a disaster its just a mothers meeting room for them to chat shite and to discuss on where to next waste taxpayers money and spend millions upon millions on developments in Cardiff. |
It defines Wales as a semi autonomous state. A devolved government. It has not "drained Wales's finances". It has enacted "left wing policies " which the voter demanded. Wales has always been left.
The Welsh voter has a chance to change this is they wish in May. If the Senedd is not there they will have the choice made for them elsewhere by other people in London where may of the decision makers are first generation immigrants. (I am not saying that is a bad thing)
That woud be the option for a weak people who do not want to even make their own decisions,
South east Wales is the most populous region. Swansea city has not gone without.
I believe if wales gives up on statehood the Welsh football team will e under threat. Welsh people must understand we are privileged and there is no free lunch.
Senedd renovations £4m. Westminster £40 billion. This is 10,000 TIMES MORE but you talk about the £4m. Why?
The Westminster figure is a scam. It is not possible to burn money like that on such a small area. [Post edited 3 Mar 0:21]
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| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 13:30 - Mar 3 with 86 views | johnlangy |
| House of Westminster renovations. Monopoly money on 00:17 - Mar 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It defines Wales as a semi autonomous state. A devolved government. It has not "drained Wales's finances". It has enacted "left wing policies " which the voter demanded. Wales has always been left.
The Welsh voter has a chance to change this is they wish in May. If the Senedd is not there they will have the choice made for them elsewhere by other people in London where may of the decision makers are first generation immigrants. (I am not saying that is a bad thing)
That woud be the option for a weak people who do not want to even make their own decisions,
South east Wales is the most populous region. Swansea city has not gone without.
I believe if wales gives up on statehood the Welsh football team will e under threat. Welsh people must understand we are privileged and there is no free lunch.
Senedd renovations £4m. Westminster £40 billion. This is 10,000 TIMES MORE but you talk about the £4m. Why?
The Westminster figure is a scam. It is not possible to burn money like that on such a small area. [Post edited 3 Mar 0:21]
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I agree with most of that res. But this statement - 'South east Wales is the most populous region. Swansea city has not gone without' has to be looked at with balance.
It is correct that South East Wales is the most populous region. It's also correct that Swansea City has not gone without. It's would also be correct to say that the 'Rest Of Wales' has not gone without.
As the most populous area the South East is bound to have most invested in it, quite rightly. But I mentioned balance.
The population of the SE is perhaps 30% of the pop of Wales compared with maybe 15% in the South West. So in theory the SW should get 50% of investment in the SE all things being equal.
Rail investment is a perfect area to make a comparison because it's been in the news so much recently. As of now investment in the SE over the last five years or so is around £2.5 BILLION. And any money not already spent is money actually committed to be spent. At a guess i'd say investment in South West Wales over that time may have been £100 million. If anyone knows better please say.
So instead of 50%, if my numbers are roughly correct, the South West has had 4%.
All we've had regarding rail investment in the South West is talk. Nothing of any substance. |  | | |
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