| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong 17:50 - Sep 9 with 896 views | SwansIndependent |
 The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong 9th Sep 2026 17:46Our unbeaten streak comes to an end, and unfortunately it comes with a performance that isn't good enough for the top end of this league. Many expect us to at least finish in the top eight this season, but I, and many other Jacks, have been wondering if something bigger than that is possible... but not with performances like this.  1
It did indeed, click above.
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| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong on 09:41 - Sep 10 with 586 views | jackrmee |
Great article as usual…
Some important talking points to come out of it. Should they have their own thread?
Most of the issues were out of possession imo. And Eli Just. Apart from that it wasn’t too bad when we had the ball.
But about the pressing…
Maybe needs its own thread?
I don’t get how the players (ok some different ones in Saints loss) understand how to press effectively against one team and then totally uncoordinated in the next? 🤷♂️
It looked lazy against Southampton.
Was it the main pressers missing? (Idah/Eom).
Was it Vipi and Yeo just not used to the pace? Or the plan?
This looked our main issue. The press and the counter-press. We couldn’t do it.
To me the difference in motivation seemed stark.
When Idah came on, it seemed like he was raring to go and attack the goalie every time he got the ball. Waiting on the edge of the area to burst in and close down. Don’t see Vipi do this at all, til after half time and a probable rollicking 🤷♂️
Yes, also correct about our right back.
We have a choice between defensive nous, passing range, versatility. Vs attacking nous, pace.
Both good in certain situations I admit, but also both lacking in certain areas. Lissah seems to have a lack of pace.
I think it’s a little difficult to judge them against Sienza and Sorba as they are clearly the best wingers in the division and Sorba now playing higher and Scienxa probably should be. Half decent or young championship fullbacks should be expected to come off second best more often than not, to a top winger. Hence, the report is correct. We need other ways to cover our fullbacks in games like this, as we do not have the quality to keep control of top wingers for 90 mins.
But what are the options?
Maybe need another thread to discuss this also, as it’s a big issue.
Ronald a good option as mentioned, but it will clearly inhibit our danger going forward.
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| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong on 14:18 - Sep 10 with 532 views | Olle_Soderholm |
| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong on 09:41 - Sep 10 by jackrmee |
Great article as usual…
Some important talking points to come out of it. Should they have their own thread?
Most of the issues were out of possession imo. And Eli Just. Apart from that it wasn’t too bad when we had the ball.
But about the pressing…
Maybe needs its own thread?
I don’t get how the players (ok some different ones in Saints loss) understand how to press effectively against one team and then totally uncoordinated in the next? 🤷♂️
It looked lazy against Southampton.
Was it the main pressers missing? (Idah/Eom).
Was it Vipi and Yeo just not used to the pace? Or the plan?
This looked our main issue. The press and the counter-press. We couldn’t do it.
To me the difference in motivation seemed stark.
When Idah came on, it seemed like he was raring to go and attack the goalie every time he got the ball. Waiting on the edge of the area to burst in and close down. Don’t see Vipi do this at all, til after half time and a probable rollicking 🤷♂️
Yes, also correct about our right back.
We have a choice between defensive nous, passing range, versatility. Vs attacking nous, pace.
Both good in certain situations I admit, but also both lacking in certain areas. Lissah seems to have a lack of pace.
I think it’s a little difficult to judge them against Sienza and Sorba as they are clearly the best wingers in the division and Sorba now playing higher and Scienxa probably should be. Half decent or young championship fullbacks should be expected to come off second best more often than not, to a top winger. Hence, the report is correct. We need other ways to cover our fullbacks in games like this, as we do not have the quality to keep control of top wingers for 90 mins.
But what are the options?
Maybe need another thread to discuss this also, as it’s a big issue.
Ronald a good option as mentioned, but it will clearly inhibit our danger going forward.
Very important talking point. |
The press could be explained by a different set of players starting and being out of sync, but honestly I don't think that explanation is sufficient. Viptonik looked off in the press but he has been playing under Matos for almost a year now. Some things are also just not about coaching, but about the player's ability to read the game. Elijah Just for example simply didn't realize when he should start the press, even though it was very obvious. It genuinely looked like we just wasn't clocked in.
On the right back troubles, I think we will have to create a clear gameplan when we face a top winger, with either the winger or a centre back being instructed to go out wide and help Lissah/Key (with a midfielder dropping behind if a centre back goes wide). Either way we'll have to improve. | |
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| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong on 16:23 - Sep 10 with 484 views | onehunglow |
| The Final Word On The Indy : Saints v Swans, analysis & what went wrong on 14:18 - Sep 10 by Olle_Soderholm |
The press could be explained by a different set of players starting and being out of sync, but honestly I don't think that explanation is sufficient. Viptonik looked off in the press but he has been playing under Matos for almost a year now. Some things are also just not about coaching, but about the player's ability to read the game. Elijah Just for example simply didn't realize when he should start the press, even though it was very obvious. It genuinely looked like we just wasn't clocked in.
On the right back troubles, I think we will have to create a clear gameplan when we face a top winger, with either the winger or a centre back being instructed to go out wide and help Lissah/Key (with a midfielder dropping behind if a centre back goes wide). Either way we'll have to improve. |
Quote a brilliant critique of where we are
We have to improve Every shame and keep learning | |
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