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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles 14:20 - Oct 31 with 1940 views

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 14:50 - Oct 31 with 886 views

max936

I hope we have got plenty of our own Patriot missiles. There's no urgency to spend money on improving our defences by this pathetic government.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 17:55 - Oct 31 with 829 views

KeithHaynes

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 14:50 - Oct 31 by max936
I hope we have got plenty of our own Patriot missiles. There's no urgency to spend money on improving our defences by this pathetic government.

Proxy wars for years.

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 21:29 - Oct 31 with 736 views

max936

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 17:55 - Oct 31 by KeithHaynes
Proxy wars for years.

Putin isn't gonna put up with it for a lot longer, lookout then

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:34 - Nov 1 with 607 views

builthjack

Should we just let Russia smash Ukraine then move towards the rest of Europe and do the same?
Like Hitler tried and succeeded in many countries.
Not for me.

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 11:30 - Nov 1 with 585 views

max936

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:34 - Nov 1 by builthjack
Should we just let Russia smash Ukraine then move towards the rest of Europe and do the same? Like Hitler tried and succeeded in many countries. Not for me.

Well he's smashing Ukraine now and there's a wider war developing the longer this goes on with us and others supplying them with more and more weapons it'll only get wider, he's threatening Estonia and Finland now, in fact its started with cyber attacks and with this government advising us all to supplies for 3 days or more, it doesn't take a genius to workout what's going to happen.
Its either because of energy issues, bad weather or war.

Putin probably feels he can do anything he wants, with Trumper on his side.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 13:32 - Nov 2 with 441 views

ReslovenSwan1

Uk are looking at the long game. In the big picture Russia has already lost. The idea of the extinction of Ukraine as an independent trading nation is over unless Russia goes nuclear.

NATO is in dream land l. Russia is being filleted militarily and economically with out a drop of NATO blood ( officially).

In th future free Ukraine will be looking for partnerships with it strongest allay. That is the United Kingdom. Flakey USA want signed contracts as they have behaved deplorably. When push came to shove their motivation was profit and this approach was supported by ordinary citizens.

At a guess that numerous wind turbine are more resilient than highly vulnerable and centralised gas electric generators plants.

Dispersing and localised energy generation is a clear lesson for this war for both Ukrainian and Russian experience.

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 02:39 - Nov 3 with 323 views

Robbie

Reporting suggest another 26 killed lately on an aid station in Ukraine , just why are Russia targeting the innocents or long term really want press ahead with their invasion until the towel is thrown in and that victory is achived .

The Don is ready leave NATO at a whim if his decision making is to belived in whatever his allies are for now .

UK , Europe and Ukraine are a small fish in a big pool of baddies worldwide .

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 07:33 - Nov 3 with 266 views

AnotherJohn

It is understandable that some posters don't like to see us paying large sums to help finance a seemingly faraway war, but I think the hard truth is that Putin won't stop in Ukraine and things will get much more expensive if the war spreads into north-eastern Europe. If only the US would apply prper sanctions, we could nip this in the bud in Ukraine, but failing that Europe has to show solidarity and man up.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:23 - Nov 3 with 226 views

AnotherJohn

Having taken a look, it is incorrect to say that the UK is the main funder of PAC interceptors for the Patriot missile system going to Ukraine. The UK contributed to two tranches of funding in Feb and Sept 2026 under the NATO PURL procurement scheme. The UK’s total contribution in these instances was about £250 million, but not all of this went on PAC-2 and PAC-3 purchases and other NATO members picked up a large % of the total cost. The recently announced contract between Lockheed Martin and Ukraine for 500 interceptors under the JUMP program is worth over $2 billion, with costs shared between Ukraine, Canada, Germany and Norway, plus an EU loan. The UK is not directly involved. The 500 interceptors won’t be ready for some years, though swaps with other countries’ older stocks may be possible.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:46 - Nov 3 with 216 views

onehunglow

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 07:33 - Nov 3 by AnotherJohn

Indeed
Putin wants as many former eastern bloc countries as possible brought to heel
Baltic countries would be next
Ask the Finns about Russia or any of their previous captured countries
Ukraine is not that far away
Ideally Putin needs a bullet

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:14 - Nov 3 with 205 views

max936

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:23 - Nov 3 by AnotherJohn

Good research AJ, thanks

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:17 - Nov 3 with 201 views

max936

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:46 - Nov 3 by onehunglow
Indeed Putin wants as many former eastern bloc countries as possible brought to heel Baltic countries would be next Ask the Finns about Russia or any of their previous captured countries Ukraine is not that far away Ideally Putin needs a bullet

If Putin goes another despot with similar ideals will replace him, Putin wanting to reclaim those countries is all about money and Russia moving closer to the mainstay of Europe.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:30 - Nov 3 with 194 views

onehunglow

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 10:17 - Nov 3 by max936
If Putin goes another despot with similar ideals will replace him, Putin wanting to reclaim those countries is all about money and Russia moving closer to the mainstay of Europe.

I’m
Not so sure Ste
Putin was a KGB stalwart , a real nasty Kent
I doubt there’s anyone be as evil in Russia although they have a history of pure malevolence
And some on our island are supporting them against Ukraine , as brave a people as it’s possible to find

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 21:58 - Nov 6 with 0 views

ReslovenSwan1

AI says this

"UK provides military and financial aid to Ukraine using the profits and interest earned from frozen Russian bank deposits and assets, rather than confiscating the principal assets themselves. This arrangement is part of the G7's Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) Loan initiative, designed to ensure Ukraine receives vital funding without placing the repayment burden on British taxpayers or the Ukrainian state.

Over £25 billion in Russian sovereign assets have been frozen within the UK since the 2022 invasion. These cash deposits and securities generate substantial interest and investment yields while sitting immobilized in financial institutions".

1% is £250m .

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So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 23:50 - Nov 6 with 0 views

max936

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 21:58 - Nov 6 by ReslovenSwan1

"1% is £250m"

Did you workout that complicated mathematic sum out all by yourself ?

Well done.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:33 - Nov 7 with 0 views

Dr_Winston

I still doubt that Russia is anything more than a paper tiger. It's been nearly five years and they've still barely advanced through more than a fifth of the Ukraine and taken horrific losses in both men and materiel to do even that little.

The Finnish/Russian border is very heavily defended. The Poles have been rearming for years. Maybe they'll be tempted to have a go at the Baltic States but realistically they have no more chance there than they have in Ukraine.

I guess we should always be on the lookout and defence against asymmetrical attacks & cyber warfare, but the likelihood of any serious attack against even the currently weak European NATO forces is slim IMO.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 17:25 - Nov 7 with 0 views

AnotherJohn

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 09:33 - Nov 7 by Dr_Winston

My worry, if the West abandons Ukraine and lets it become a Russian puppet state, is that the Ukrainians will be so pissed off that Russia may be able to add formidable armed forces and technological expertise to their existing sub-optimal military capability.

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 17:35 - Nov 7 with 0 views

onehunglow

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 17:25 - Nov 7 by AnotherJohn
My worry, if the West abandons Ukraine and lets it become a Russian puppet state, is that the Ukrainians will be so pissed off that Russia may be able to add formidable armed forces and technological expertise to their existing sub-optimal military capability.

Russia must never get any support at all

Have we learned nowt

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ReslovenSwan1

So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles on 23:50 - Nov 6 by max936
"1% is £250m" Did you workout that complicated mathematic sum out all by yourself ? Well done.

£250m was quoted as the UK contribution for the Patriot system by another poster.

UK is collecting interests on Russian money UK bank. There are no reports on what the interest is on the Russian cash. 1% is very conservative. You can get 4% in the Principality BS. This is international banking I Ido not have all the answers.

"So basically we are paying for Ukraines Patriot missiles?" was the OP point. Perhaps I do have the answer to this one. It is NO. (probably).

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