| IOW Festival 12:37 - Mar 4 with 789 views | onehunglow |
Now GOING AHEAD in September.
Great
Young people flocking to the island spreading love,peace,harmony and happiness.
Just how lucky are the Islanders.
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| IOW Festival on 16:19 - Mar 4 with 739 views | YrAlarch |
Ahhh just like we did in 1970. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 16:21 - Mar 4 with 735 views | britferry |
and then going back to Uni and starting a new spike in the virus | |
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| IOW Festival on 16:45 - Mar 4 with 724 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 16:21 - Mar 4 by britferry |
and then going back to Uni and starting a new spike in the virus |
Its nuts.
Young people seem the thickest of all .Herd immunity of the wrong sort.
They will spread this like wildfire and we could face another winter of death.
Johnson utterly disgusts me as he is inviting the very people we dont need to have full rein unless this madness is wanted. It is actually quite wicked.
I am sure the IOW residents,previously not badly affected by covid are pooing themselves.
And yeah I went in 1970 | |
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| IOW Festival on 18:57 - Mar 4 with 697 views | exhmrc1 |
| IOW Festival on 16:45 - Mar 4 by onehunglow |
Its nuts.
Young people seem the thickest of all .Herd immunity of the wrong sort.
They will spread this like wildfire and we could face another winter of death.
Johnson utterly disgusts me as he is inviting the very people we dont need to have full rein unless this madness is wanted. It is actually quite wicked.
I am sure the IOW residents,previously not badly affected by covid are pooing themselves.
And yeah I went in 1970 |
Not often we agree but I agree totally with you on this. Johnson has been nowhere near strict enough. At least Drakeford has tried to have some controls. It isnt just the Isle of Wight but Reading and Leeds festivals going ahead and probably the Green Man here.
He is also intent on opening nightclubs. All areas at huge risk of creating a spike. We are not likely to vaccinate everybody fully until August or possibly longer. Those of us who have had vaccines will get their second one before end of May but we wont be the ones attending festivals and nightclubs and many that do wont be vaccinated.
It is a huge worry especially if new variants are found that are not covered by vaccines.
I am all for Drakeford's careful approach rather than the reckless one Johnson is embarked upon. I just hope we dont end up in a further lockdown and loss of life. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 19:24 - Mar 4 with 691 views | Scotia |
I love festivals and gigs, I've got a carried over ticket for Green Man and I've been to the IOW several times.
But I just do not see how they can be held safely.
Especially with people like this on the bill.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp | | | |
| IOW Festival on 00:44 - Mar 5 with 644 views | theloneranger |
| IOW Festival on 16:19 - Mar 4 by YrAlarch |
Ahhh just like we did in 1970. |
IoW festival and the premier of Woodstock in a London cinema. What a summer of 1970, only surpassed by the summer of 1976. 😇 |  |
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| IOW Festival on 07:58 - Mar 5 with 607 views | YrAlarch |
| IOW Festival on 16:45 - Mar 4 by onehunglow |
Its nuts.
Young people seem the thickest of all .Herd immunity of the wrong sort.
They will spread this like wildfire and we could face another winter of death.
Johnson utterly disgusts me as he is inviting the very people we dont need to have full rein unless this madness is wanted. It is actually quite wicked.
I am sure the IOW residents,previously not badly affected by covid are pooing themselves.
And yeah I went in 1970 |
On duty? | | | |
| IOW Festival on 09:14 - Mar 5 with 588 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 07:58 - Mar 5 by YrAlarch |
On duty? |
sorry? | |
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| IOW Festival on 09:23 - Mar 5 with 581 views | Dr_Winston |
By September everyone would have been offered at least one vaccine shot, and all the most vulnerable would have had both.
What's the problem? Are we supposed to cower indoors indefinitely? |  |
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| IOW Festival on 09:26 - Mar 5 with 579 views | YrAlarch |
Sorry, just being flippant OHL. Lockdown is getting to me I think! | | | |
| IOW Festival on 09:30 - Mar 5 with 575 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 09:26 - Mar 5 by YrAlarch |
Sorry, just being flippant OHL. Lockdown is getting to me I think! |
and a very good morning to you.
It's nothing.
Today they are taking down my beloved conservatory as we are extending mainly to have me a proper music room.
I actually tried to give it away. It cost 16,000 8 years ago .I was hoping a poor family would benefit from it.Nope. We also gave away the furniture to a north Wales farmer who came from Betws -y -coed to get summat for nothing.
I 'll leave it there | |
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| IOW Festival on 10:04 - Mar 5 with 563 views | controversial_jack |
i'm sure it will be cancelled | | | |
| IOW Festival on 10:16 - Mar 5 with 558 views | raynor94 |
| IOW Festival on 09:23 - Mar 5 by Dr_Winston |
By September everyone would have been offered at least one vaccine shot, and all the most vulnerable would have had both.
What's the problem? Are we supposed to cower indoors indefinitely? |
My thoughts exactly, we have to get back to some kind of normal soon.
Isn't this what the vaccines for? |  |
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| IOW Festival on 10:57 - Mar 5 with 548 views | KeithHaynes |
Being someone who has missed everything connected to the music scene I remain hopeful. But it’s ok having these festivals going ahead, bands, crew etc don’t all live in the UK. That’s where the issues will be. |  |
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| IOW Festival on 11:02 - Mar 5 with 544 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 10:57 - Mar 5 by KeithHaynes |
Being someone who has missed everything connected to the music scene I remain hopeful. But it’s ok having these festivals going ahead, bands, crew etc don’t all live in the UK. That’s where the issues will be. |
Guv.
Nobody loves music a much as me. It s literally kept me ane.
If I was an example of your average 20 yr old,I would be utterly ignoring any distancing,masking or common sense. At that age,you don't really give a monkeys and old people are just a joke.
Now I myself am old ,I see it through different faraway eyes. | |
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| IOW Festival on 11:41 - Mar 5 with 534 views | Scotia |
| IOW Festival on 10:16 - Mar 5 by raynor94 |
My thoughts exactly, we have to get back to some kind of normal soon.
Isn't this what the vaccines for? |
I agree.
I just think that 60000 people in a massive crowd heading in to Autumn could be asking for trouble. Ironically Glastonbury may have been better timed to take place, or perhaps if the IOW / Leeds / Reading were restricted in capacity? A smaller festival like Beautiful Days or Green Man maybe OK.
The logistics of getting all of those people tested or issued with vaccine passports would be a nightmare.
We'll know more by then about new variants and how long immunity from vaccination lasts.
We're going to have to learn to live with covid soon. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 12:13 - Mar 5 with 522 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 10:16 - Mar 5 by raynor94 |
My thoughts exactly, we have to get back to some kind of normal soon.
Isn't this what the vaccines for? |
But chances are Kids wont be and they will spread it the many who do not want a vaccine.
And there are plenty of those | |
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| IOW Festival on 12:17 - Mar 5 with 522 views | YrAlarch |
| IOW Festival on 11:41 - Mar 5 by Scotia |
I agree.
I just think that 60000 people in a massive crowd heading in to Autumn could be asking for trouble. Ironically Glastonbury may have been better timed to take place, or perhaps if the IOW / Leeds / Reading were restricted in capacity? A smaller festival like Beautiful Days or Green Man maybe OK.
The logistics of getting all of those people tested or issued with vaccine passports would be a nightmare.
We'll know more by then about new variants and how long immunity from vaccination lasts.
We're going to have to learn to live with covid soon. |
We should also bear in mind that scientists are also warning of a third wave, regardless of vaccines. Massive crowds can only increase the risk. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 12:20 - Mar 5 with 520 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 12:17 - Mar 5 by YrAlarch |
We should also bear in mind that scientists are also warning of a third wave, regardless of vaccines. Massive crowds can only increase the risk. |
Thing will not be going back to "normal".
Life ha changed forever and we cannot seem to embrace this.
Everything has changed,just like 9/11 changed air travel forever.
It is fookn madness to even consider such a festival when common sense will be left on the landing stage. Factor in most will be doped up .Johnson is clearly insane. | |
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| IOW Festival on 14:13 - Mar 5 with 472 views | LittleEnglandJack |
| IOW Festival on 09:23 - Mar 5 by Dr_Winston |
By September everyone would have been offered at least one vaccine shot, and all the most vulnerable would have had both.
What's the problem? Are we supposed to cower indoors indefinitely? |
Exactly. People (especially of my generation) aren't going to tolerate continuing restrictions when upwards of 90% of the potential harm done by covid has been mitigated. Data shows that even one shot is up to 80% effective in preventing serious illness & death in the most vulnerable after 14 days.
If we're going to continue to effectively cancel life even with a highly vaccinated population because a small number of people will probably continue to catch covid and die then we might as well wave goodbye to watching the Swans (as we know it) for the next few years. In fact, if even vaccines don't free us from restrictions then we might as well all top ourselves now. Covid certainly isn't going anywhere.
As even Whitty and Vallance have said, we're just going to have to decide as a society what a tolerable number of Covid deaths will be. I don't personally know what that is, but I will point out that we have had ~20,000 deaths before in a bad flu season without it really entering the public consciousness beyond a few sensationalist newspaper headlines in the Mail & the Express and the occasional piece on BBC news about Hospitals being under strain.
I see no reason why by late Summer we can't be back to near complete normality, even if it means the borders are tightly policed and foreign holidays are off the cards for a year. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 15:23 - Mar 5 with 436 views | Scotia |
| IOW Festival on 14:13 - Mar 5 by LittleEnglandJack |
Exactly. People (especially of my generation) aren't going to tolerate continuing restrictions when upwards of 90% of the potential harm done by covid has been mitigated. Data shows that even one shot is up to 80% effective in preventing serious illness & death in the most vulnerable after 14 days.
If we're going to continue to effectively cancel life even with a highly vaccinated population because a small number of people will probably continue to catch covid and die then we might as well wave goodbye to watching the Swans (as we know it) for the next few years. In fact, if even vaccines don't free us from restrictions then we might as well all top ourselves now. Covid certainly isn't going anywhere.
As even Whitty and Vallance have said, we're just going to have to decide as a society what a tolerable number of Covid deaths will be. I don't personally know what that is, but I will point out that we have had ~20,000 deaths before in a bad flu season without it really entering the public consciousness beyond a few sensationalist newspaper headlines in the Mail & the Express and the occasional piece on BBC news about Hospitals being under strain.
I see no reason why by late Summer we can't be back to near complete normality, even if it means the borders are tightly policed and foreign holidays are off the cards for a year. |
There's a big difference to watching the Swans to 60,000 people from all over the UK in a field for four days though. Especially if many of those aren't vaccinated.
By late Summer we "could" have those who received the vaccine early (the most vulnerable) seeing their immunity decline just as a surge of the Brazilian variant is ready to take off. Put a handful of asymptomatic brazil variant infections in the Reading / Leeds and IOW festival and we're back to square one by Mid October.
I completely agree that we have to move on, and we should be looking to do that ASAP, but a lot depends on the situation over the Summer. Even if we are over the worst of the situation, there are currently a lot of unknowns. I'd say a complete return to no restrictions whatsoever is a year away at least.
Rapid, accurate testing, variant surveillance and vaccine passports are our main hope for a relatively normal year.
The last thing we need is people like Ian Brown spouting off. | | | |
| IOW Festival on 15:46 - Mar 5 with 432 views | controversial_jack |
| IOW Festival on 12:17 - Mar 5 by YrAlarch |
We should also bear in mind that scientists are also warning of a third wave, regardless of vaccines. Massive crowds can only increase the risk. |
A rise in cases seems to be happening in Europe. A few schools have had covid cases and had to be shut in the Netherlands. There's a long way to go yet and vaccines are just one tool against this virus, not the answer many think it will be | | | |
| IOW Festival on 15:47 - Mar 5 with 427 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 15:46 - Mar 5 by controversial_jack |
A rise in cases seems to be happening in Europe. A few schools have had covid cases and had to be shut in the Netherlands. There's a long way to go yet and vaccines are just one tool against this virus, not the answer many think it will be |
So because it’s not the panacea we basically shun it.
Is that is suggested for IOM visitiors | |
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| IOW Festival on 15:49 - Mar 5 with 426 views | onehunglow |
| IOW Festival on 14:13 - Mar 5 by LittleEnglandJack |
Exactly. People (especially of my generation) aren't going to tolerate continuing restrictions when upwards of 90% of the potential harm done by covid has been mitigated. Data shows that even one shot is up to 80% effective in preventing serious illness & death in the most vulnerable after 14 days.
If we're going to continue to effectively cancel life even with a highly vaccinated population because a small number of people will probably continue to catch covid and die then we might as well wave goodbye to watching the Swans (as we know it) for the next few years. In fact, if even vaccines don't free us from restrictions then we might as well all top ourselves now. Covid certainly isn't going anywhere.
As even Whitty and Vallance have said, we're just going to have to decide as a society what a tolerable number of Covid deaths will be. I don't personally know what that is, but I will point out that we have had ~20,000 deaths before in a bad flu season without it really entering the public consciousness beyond a few sensationalist newspaper headlines in the Mail & the Express and the occasional piece on BBC news about Hospitals being under strain.
I see no reason why by late Summer we can't be back to near complete normality, even if it means the borders are tightly policed and foreign holidays are off the cards for a year. |
Depends if you are happy to see your wife,kids,grandparents catch this .
We really haven’t grasped the fact our cozy little existence has been shattered and what we are seeing in all its putrid glory are reasons to go to the pub or go on hols or to go shopping ,all seen as essentials clearly. | |
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| IOW Festival on 19:10 - Mar 5 with 390 views | Dr_Winston |
| IOW Festival on 14:13 - Mar 5 by LittleEnglandJack |
Exactly. People (especially of my generation) aren't going to tolerate continuing restrictions when upwards of 90% of the potential harm done by covid has been mitigated. Data shows that even one shot is up to 80% effective in preventing serious illness & death in the most vulnerable after 14 days.
If we're going to continue to effectively cancel life even with a highly vaccinated population because a small number of people will probably continue to catch covid and die then we might as well wave goodbye to watching the Swans (as we know it) for the next few years. In fact, if even vaccines don't free us from restrictions then we might as well all top ourselves now. Covid certainly isn't going anywhere.
As even Whitty and Vallance have said, we're just going to have to decide as a society what a tolerable number of Covid deaths will be. I don't personally know what that is, but I will point out that we have had ~20,000 deaths before in a bad flu season without it really entering the public consciousness beyond a few sensationalist newspaper headlines in the Mail & the Express and the occasional piece on BBC news about Hospitals being under strain.
I see no reason why by late Summer we can't be back to near complete normality, even if it means the borders are tightly policed and foreign holidays are off the cards for a year. |
Yep.
There are those so scared of life in general they would restrict all of us to sate their own cowardice. If vaccinations aren't for the purpose of lifting restrictions, then why the hell are we bothering with them at all?
Obviously hospital admissions and deaths need to be monitored. If they aren't rising, then restrictions need to go ASAP. A rise in infections is nothing to fear if it doesn't come with an equivalent rise in mortality. | |
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