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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems 09:50 - Sep 9 with 892 viewsSwansIndependent


Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems 9th Sep 2021 09:48
You can dominate as many games as you want, but when you don’t put the ball in the net the situation is simple. You don’t win games. Robert Page again displayed a tactical frailty in his thinking as Wales stumbled to a 0-0 draw against Group E whipping boys Estonia. They of course will be delighted. It’s their first point of their qualification. 0




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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 10:38 - Sep 9 with 862 viewsonehunglow

I'll be frank.
Last night shows how pretty abject we are,still relying on the Bale factor.

It's hard to win any game without balls out striker and Moore is the only one we have,but he sees fit not to have a vax. Criminally irresponsible.

Page is not leader,no coach and no inspiration. Come to think of it,neither is Giggs who ideally should be dumped .I pray the verdict is one wherby he is sacked.

Not to qualify for a cess pit country like Qatar wouldnt be a disaster at all. I can't ee the pleasure myself of playing there and can't see how fans would either,especially ladies who are not keen on covering their bodies nor gay men who would be hounded.

It was a disgusting decision to hold this here and it shamed FIFA as if they couldnt already be shamed enough.

All in all,meh. I d welcome the mid winter break boys. Do some Xmas shopping instead

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 11:27 - Sep 9 with 837 viewsYrAlarch

Out of interest. In what way did Page display a 'tactical frailty in his thinking'.
I ask because I don't quite understand what you mean by that.
[Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:29]
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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 11:55 - Sep 9 with 802 viewsBadlands

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 10:38 - Sep 9 by onehunglow

I'll be frank.
Last night shows how pretty abject we are,still relying on the Bale factor.

It's hard to win any game without balls out striker and Moore is the only one we have,but he sees fit not to have a vax. Criminally irresponsible.

Page is not leader,no coach and no inspiration. Come to think of it,neither is Giggs who ideally should be dumped .I pray the verdict is one wherby he is sacked.

Not to qualify for a cess pit country like Qatar wouldnt be a disaster at all. I can't ee the pleasure myself of playing there and can't see how fans would either,especially ladies who are not keen on covering their bodies nor gay men who would be hounded.

It was a disgusting decision to hold this here and it shamed FIFA as if they couldnt already be shamed enough.

All in all,meh. I d welcome the mid winter break boys. Do some Xmas shopping instead


Unfortunately the bale factor pretty much ceased to be effective in 2016.
Too often players look for Bale rather than making a better choice and for a free kick specialist his dead ball attempts are awful. Add to that the number of chances he fluffs and you are left with a player who has an overall negative effect.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 12:31 - Sep 9 with 761 viewsonehunglow

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 11:55 - Sep 9 by Badlands

Unfortunately the bale factor pretty much ceased to be effective in 2016.
Too often players look for Bale rather than making a better choice and for a free kick specialist his dead ball attempts are awful. Add to that the number of chances he fluffs and you are left with a player who has an overall negative effect.


INDEED Badlands but Ive hammered Gareth in the recent past so thought I'd ease up.
He is still on top top money and seen still as a "great" but sorry,he is way past his best.
Sadly,we have no other player of any world class quality at all.

I love all this optimism though but we know ,deep down,where we really are.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 13:14 - Sep 9 with 725 viewsReslovenSwan1

Bale is still a very good player and leader. He turns up for every game and now seems fit. He alone hit the target three time last night and drove Cymru forward.

Harry Wilson needs a boot up his backside and told to concentrate. All the talent in the world but is not committed to scoring goals. A pathetic penalty v Finland and a horrible miss v Estonia. A petulent sending off v Denmark. Tyler Roberts another that need to concentrate and score and show composure. He does not have beef so should at least have composure.

Hal Robson Kanu has helped blow two World cups, Unavailable out of contract in the last World cup basking in his 2016 glory, while Cymru slipped up by Serbia, and unavailable and out of contract again now. This is a man that delvers on the big night whereas T Roberts and Wilson do not. He should be scoring freely for Portsmouth or Swindon right now.

Tyler 17 games no goals. Page was obliged to big him up after working with Bielsa. Its a myth. he has not developed at all. Harris showed him up.

No signs of any new Welsh no 9 coming through. Vale scored a hat trick for the u21 6ft 1 in but has no senior games as he did not feature on loan for Rochdale. Dackers is a big unit for the u19 at Salford.

Popov is very young and Cullen only plays in fits and starts. His agent has let him down. He needs 40 games now. Can he score regularly or not? The jury is out 2 years ago and still is.

Swansea city academy carries some of the blame. 8 or 9 centre backs over the years not one big chunky square jawed 6ft 2in centre forward. Geoff Bony is one who theoretically could be eligible play for Wales I suspect. He will aim for thw Ivory Coast I suspect if he kicks on. Swansea has imported a number of outsiders for this role Biotti Biabbi, Gudjonson, Baker Richardson, Proctor, Nouble. All have come up short with no local prospects.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 13:32 - Sep 9 with 711 viewsReslovenSwan1

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 12:31 - Sep 9 by onehunglow

INDEED Badlands but Ive hammered Gareth in the recent past so thought I'd ease up.
He is still on top top money and seen still as a "great" but sorry,he is way past his best.
Sadly,we have no other player of any world class quality at all.

I love all this optimism though but we know ,deep down,where we really are.


Of course you have hammered Bale.

Why?

Because he is totally committed turns up every game and does his best. He cannot turn things around single handed but he is going to give it a go anyway. Wilson and Tyler Roberts have not offered adequate support that limited players like Hal Robson Kanu did on the big nights.

Bale took the draw with good grace like he should and congratulated the grafting Estonians. None of the petulance of the Denmark game.

Wales gave it their best shot. Jonny Williams is not the best but ran hard and asked questions as did Dan James. Dan's crossing is still poor but his commitment was great. Harris should replace Tyler Roberts who was anonymous and spurned a very easy chance, .

Wales should perhap had a high press as the Estonians wanted to play out from the back but were shakey.

The lost talents of Woodburn, Brooks, Broahhead, Neco Williams need to be re energised. They are all still u23. Brenan Johnson is another. Strange that Page did not use him.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 22:09 - Sep 9 with 545 viewsKeithHaynes

Not playing a fit Rodon was ridiculous.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 23:09 - Sep 9 with 517 viewsbuilthjack

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 22:09 - Sep 9 by KeithHaynes

Not playing a fit Rodon was ridiculous.


A crazy decision.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 23:54 - Sep 9 with 501 viewsKeithHaynes

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 11:27 - Sep 9 by YrAlarch

Out of interest. In what way did Page display a 'tactical frailty in his thinking'.
I ask because I don't quite understand what you mean by that.
[Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:29]


Spoke to Gruff earlier, tactical frailty, personally I think that sums Page up superbly mate. Frail ? Weak, is the most comparable word for me in the description of frail. Leaving Rodon out was a very poor shout.There’s others.

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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 08:08 - Sep 10 with 452 viewsYrAlarch

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 23:54 - Sep 9 by KeithHaynes

Spoke to Gruff earlier, tactical frailty, personally I think that sums Page up superbly mate. Frail ? Weak, is the most comparable word for me in the description of frail. Leaving Rodon out was a very poor shout.There’s others.


Thanks for your response. I now understand what you are getting at. I guess his use of substitutions in that context could be another issue.
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Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 08:41 - Sep 10 with 436 viewsKeithHaynes

Wales draw with Estonia definitely causes World Cup qualification problems on 08:08 - Sep 10 by YrAlarch

Thanks for your response. I now understand what you are getting at. I guess his use of substitutions in that context could be another issue.


I tend to agree mate, just not up to the job.

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