| Jamie Mackie Quote. 22:15 - Jan 25 with 2915 views | lifelong |
“Russell Martin is a manager who has a huge future in the game.” 👠|  | | |  |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:20 - Jan 25 with 1584 views | magicdaps10 |
Sky even mentioned that it's a transition season and a work in process.
I think anyone who understands football and can see the big picture can see the change at the club and the rebuild that is required. |  |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:20 - Jan 25 with 1583 views | raynor94 |
Can't be right mun, `He's the worst man manager we have had'
Personally get your money on us for going up next season |  |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 with 1531 views | Dr_Parnassus |
He will if he starts to learn and erases the stubborn streak in him.
Transition seasons do not exist and will never exist, regardless of what Sky say. They are parroting fan cliches that simply do not exist in any realm.
We have changed our style many times in our history, we have never needed to write off a season in order to do so. It’s a myth.
But as for Martin, there is potential there for sure, but he appears to be a very slow developer. People of similar age and experience do seem way ahead when it comes to their adaptability, ability to learn and man management skills.
It will be up to him how far he goes, and that’s largely down to how much he can improve on the above - or indeed is willing to learn to improve the above. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 22:28]
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 with 1535 views | magicdaps10 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:20 - Jan 25 by raynor94 |
Can't be right mun, `He's the worst man manager we have had'
Personally get your money on us for going up next season |
I wouldn't go that far but on a thin squad, last 3 games have certainly shown a lot of positives.
I don't think Martin is a million miles off getting the the spark to catch, we are in need of one or 2 starters on the pitch, I can see what we could do with in pushing on so I am sure Martin does.... Once you get it then it's not guaranteed like a jigsaw piece. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 with 1533 views | max936 |
Calm ewselves down for god sake, if it all goes well we'll all be cheering, if it goes tits up we'll all be screaming, every game we got posters saying yeh and nay, truth is nobody knows even the know it all's on both sides of the field.
We've all been yeah before. |  |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:29 - Jan 25 with 1523 views | magicdaps10 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 by max936 |
Calm ewselves down for god sake, if it all goes well we'll all be cheering, if it goes tits up we'll all be screaming, every game we got posters saying yeh and nay, truth is nobody knows even the know it all's on both sides of the field.
We've all been yeah before. |
Now that's a top post.
Martin needs to be atleast given the chance but we are not at the end of the road to know if it's a success or not. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:35 - Jan 25 with 1486 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 by max936 |
Calm ewselves down for god sake, if it all goes well we'll all be cheering, if it goes tits up we'll all be screaming, every game we got posters saying yeh and nay, truth is nobody knows even the know it all's on both sides of the field.
We've all been yeah before. |
Yep, as it stands we have won 1 of our last 7 and sit in 17th place. That is almost an unknown for us in recent history. He has never had a top half finish in his managerial career.
There is a tendency to go overboard whenever we don’t lose, which probably says a lot about the state we are in. I don’t remember seeing a mentality like that among fans since the mid 90’s where any sort of a point felt like a win.
That’s not to say he doesn’t have potential though, he does. Recent games have been far more encouraging, the ridiculous possession seems to have dropped off and is among the lowest it’s been all season and is coinciding with better results and performances.
I’m treading carefully because last time I got excited that he was learning and we were playing sensibly we slipped back almost immediately.
58% and 57% in the last two games, and we haven’t conceded a goal. It’s not a coincidence.
When we have 75% possession it means we are almost guaranteed to get dispossessed or give the ball away in extremely dangerous areas and we ship goal after goal.
We will see what direction we go in, it’s all up to Martin, but as most managers do - he will live and die by his sword. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:38 - Jan 25 with 1468 views | Badlands |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:20 - Jan 25 by raynor94 |
Can't be right mun, `He's the worst man manager we have had'
Personally get your money on us for going up next season |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:41 - Jan 25 with 1442 views | Luther27 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:20 - Jan 25 by magicdaps10 |
Sky even mentioned that it's a transition season and a work in process.
I think anyone who understands football and can see the big picture can see the change at the club and the rebuild that is required. |
Try explaining transition season to any board or owners. |  | | |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:01 - Jan 25 with 1395 views | Thrasher6 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 22:27 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
He will if he starts to learn and erases the stubborn streak in him.
Transition seasons do not exist and will never exist, regardless of what Sky say. They are parroting fan cliches that simply do not exist in any realm.
We have changed our style many times in our history, we have never needed to write off a season in order to do so. It’s a myth.
But as for Martin, there is potential there for sure, but he appears to be a very slow developer. People of similar age and experience do seem way ahead when it comes to their adaptability, ability to learn and man management skills.
It will be up to him how far he goes, and that’s largely down to how much he can improve on the above - or indeed is willing to learn to improve the above. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 22:28]
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Stick to science. .and let us do the football...
Thanks.. |  |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:05 - Jan 25 with 1379 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:01 - Jan 25 by Thrasher6 |
Stick to science. .and let us do the football...
Thanks.. |
No idea what that means I’m afraid.
Top 6 free money bet going well? Maybe you shouldn’t be sticking with football after all. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:08 - Jan 25 with 1373 views | Thrasher6 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:05 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
No idea what that means I’m afraid.
Top 6 free money bet going well? Maybe you shouldn’t be sticking with football after all. |
Top 12 will be winning....
Top 12 was the bet....check what I said. Twisting it to be Top 6 is a bit pathetic really. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:11]
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:15 - Jan 25 with 1349 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:08 - Jan 25 by Thrasher6 |
Top 12 will be winning....
Top 12 was the bet....check what I said. Twisting it to be Top 6 is a bit pathetic really. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:11]
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No twisting going on, it was top 6 wasn’t it? You did also say top 12, but you were encouraging people to back the play off finish.
The pathetic thing of course is trolling on the forum of a team you claim to support.
Start trolling people on a football forum simply for giving their views my lad and these things will be brought up I’m afraid. Be more wise with your words would me my advice, or at least try to add something to the discussion. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:36]
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:20 - Jan 25 with 1326 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Nope just checked. Top 6 you said.
Now from someone who is in the top of his field with odds compilation I did think that was a bit odd as clearly not any sort of “rick”.
“Top Half...Top 6
at 23:15 29 Sep 2021
Now I'm very seasoned in what I am going to put forward here......my job is to compile odds (30 years)....and I smell a rick.
In places we were 16/1 to be Top 6...prior to tonight. Had 50 on that. Stupid odds...(they changed it to 9/1...) It's massively shorter...no more than 4/1 in my opinion.”
You then went on to talk about your other bet which was top half.
But to pretend you weren’t going on about your top 6 bet and it is me that is twisting it is a bit pathetic really. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:21 - Jan 25 with 1325 views | Thrasher6 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:15 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
No twisting going on, it was top 6 wasn’t it? You did also say top 12, but you were encouraging people to back the play off finish.
The pathetic thing of course is trolling on the forum of a team you claim to support.
Start trolling people on a football forum simply for giving their views my lad and these things will be brought up I’m afraid. Be more wise with your words would me my advice, or at least try to add something to the discussion. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:36]
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Don't be so stupid....I've been in betting for over 30 years...it's my profession. I said we wouldn't be out of the Top half. It was a stupid price and I gave my reasons. I don't have to justify it to you. We'll be Top 12. Have you watched the sh@t that other teams in this league serve up every weekend? | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:24 - Jan 25 with 1318 views | builthjack |
As I said when he joined us, it will take at least 2 full transfer windows for him to sort his players out. He will. Then look out. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:24 - Jan 25 with 1317 views | Thrasher6 |
I talked about having 2k on Top half...and raiding the house account...which got so many 'precious' replies. Remember. It was my main bet.. and you know it. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:25 - Jan 25 with 1312 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:21 - Jan 25 by Thrasher6 |
Don't be so stupid....I've been in betting for over 30 years...it's my profession. I said we wouldn't be out of the Top half. It was a stupid price and I gave my reasons. I don't have to justify it to you. We'll be Top 12. Have you watched the sh@t that other teams in this league serve up every weekend? |
The fact you can get £50 down at a bookmaker at those odds after 30 years suggests you aren’t anywhere near as profitable as you think you are and there most certainly wouldn’t have been the liquidity there on the exchange.
I have been a sports trader all my life, I can’t remember the last time I was able to get 50p down at a bookmaker let alone £50 at 16’s.
You said you backed Swansea to finish in the top 6 and top half. Not sure why you are denying that.
Maybe next time instead of trolling someone, give a reasoned response. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:26 - Jan 25 with 1315 views | Thrasher6 |
At 5/2...said it was gift...and still is. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:29 - Jan 25 with 1307 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:24 - Jan 25 by Thrasher6 |
I talked about having 2k on Top half...and raiding the house account...which got so many 'precious' replies. Remember. It was my main bet.. and you know it. |
£2000 at 5/2 at a bookmaker, on a Championship derivative market?? What have you been smoking? Your account must be VIP to the max.
Main bet or not, I asked you about your top 6 bet - you seemed to deny having one. Yet it was in the title of that thread and encompassed the whole opening paragraph of which I just quoted.
Maybe next time give your on topic opinion instead of giving it the big one. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:30]
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:30 - Jan 25 with 1308 views | builthjack |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:24 - Jan 25 by Thrasher6 |
I talked about having 2k on Top half...and raiding the house account...which got so many 'precious' replies. Remember. It was my main bet.. and you know it. |
Definite top 12 finish | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:34 - Jan 25 with 1282 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:30 - Jan 25 by builthjack |
Definite top 12 finish |
Certainly possible, but far from definite and nobody should be raiding any savings or houses to be putting money on that’s for sure.
1 win in 7 and a tendency to drop what works and revert to what doesn’t is not a recipe for a safe bet. | |
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:37 - Jan 25 with 1277 views | builthjack |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:34 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Certainly possible, but far from definite and nobody should be raiding any savings or houses to be putting money on that’s for sure.
1 win in 7 and a tendency to drop what works and revert to what doesn’t is not a recipe for a safe bet. |
I wouldn't put the house on it, but happy to put the holiday home on. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:38 - Jan 25 with 1274 views | Thrasher6 |
| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:29 - Jan 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
£2000 at 5/2 at a bookmaker, on a Championship derivative market?? What have you been smoking? Your account must be VIP to the max.
Main bet or not, I asked you about your top 6 bet - you seemed to deny having one. Yet it was in the title of that thread and encompassed the whole opening paragraph of which I just quoted.
Maybe next time give your on topic opinion instead of giving it the big one. [Post edited 25 Jan 2022 23:30]
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You are now trying to tell me what I do...I must have really wound you up. How arrogant? I actually got £1,650...mostly at 5/2 but smaller at 9/4. It's not my account ...I'm well known and can't get that amount on. I have people to get it on...on "losing" accounts .
Btw it's what we do....
Don't tell me my job...
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| Jamie Mackie Quote. on 23:41 - Jan 25 with 1271 views | Thrasher6 |
If it loses...it loses....but what we do is identify value....and the price on the value. 5/2 on us to be Top half was stupid. I said at the time that I felt it was odds on...you have to play and play big. | |
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