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A blast from the past.
at 06:24 18 Sep 2020

And a nice bit of history for those not about at the time. It was from this point the United swans were formed (excluded by mal pope in the promo sale film) which, Keith and Phil both headed up resulting in meetings in England and Wales of interested people and groups. Its odd that the board (dineen,Jenkins etc) which were given the opportunity to run the club never recognised or remarked on the real reasons, or one of them at least, how they got control at the vetch. People should know as well Phil sumbler was threatened with arrest by the club for selling his fanzine within the club grounds. Scummy losers, took a while for people to agree though.

MAGS Given The Finger 18th Sep 2000 00:00
MAGS Snubbed 0

Leslie Grantham
at 04:24 18 Sep 2020

I was having a conversation last night about Leslie Grantham, didn't know he was dead. Did the wkiki thing.
I haven't laughed so much in ages.

In May 2004, a Sunday newspaper printed photographs of Grantham exposing himself and masturbating whilst sucking his finger in a sexually-suggestive manner via a webcam from his dressing room to an undercover reporter named "Amanda."[22] Grantham also allegedly dressed as Captain Hook whilst pleasuring himself,[23
Prediction Logged by at 15:42:53
Swansea City v Birmingham City prediction logged
Matchday Thread - Swansea City v Birmingham City
at 14:49 16 Sep 2020

Liberty Stadium, Swansea
Saturday 19th September 2020
Kick off 3pm

Referee is Gavin Ward, guitarist with Bolt Thrower

In the past, Swansea Independent Spotlight
Swansea City 4 - 0 Birmingham City
Division Two - February 16, 1952

The Swans put in an impressive performance in front of the Vetch Field faithful, with goals from Frank Scrine, Alf Bellis and Ivor Allchurch securing a comprehensive victory. Birmingham’s robust style of play had seen them lead the league table not long before, but the visitors struggled to deal with the attacking flair of Swansea. Scrine’s goal was followed up by a double from Bellis, who put the home side out of sight before Allchurch put the seal on the triumph with a fourth goal in the dying minutes. Swansea’s win was made all-the-more impressive in the following weeks as the Blues went on an eight-game unbeaten run, losing just twice more in the league that campaign.

Ivor Allchurch bossed this spotlight game, Liverpudlian Alf Bellis who died in 2013 scored a brace.

Birmingham facts

There is an apparent reputation founded back in Birmingham time when baggy trousered males of differing cultures would gather together and shout ‘Zulu’ at each other. They moved on quickly and started running about shouting Zulu at anyone who would listen, and then running towards visiting fans at St Andrews shouting Zulu at them as well. Zulu was popular.

Here are some blurry faced chaps who probably shouted Zulu quite a lot
Conversely this is a real Zulu, there is no historical information available as to what he shouted, or indeed when
It’s an interesting fact that the Zulu warriors of old caught a cold at Rorkes Drift when a welsh regiment shoved all sorts of lead up their Jacksys. In 1964 a film was made of the event, you will see from the photo below that the Welsh regiment were wearing The official Wales home jersey for this event, even though they were actually playing away from home.

In formation, a sort of 4 3 3 it would be described as today are the Welsh tearing the Zulus a new one. Hats are no longer worn in football matches.

Birmingham City star player.
Adam Clayton

Adam is an influential no nonsense midfielder who continues to be the glue in the side when he plays. The only issues the swans may face will be if Gavin Ward and Adam know each other through their musical endeavours. Unconscious bias is something numerous referees could be accused of, however in this case we hope they leave any music chat to after the game.

Adam Clayton at home yesterday

Anyone in any doubt this is Adam the day before

Numerous Swansea City players have left the club for Birmingham City. John Cornforth. Andy Legge and Jason Bowen are memorable transfers. Then owner Barry Fry had a liking for Swansea's midfield during the nineties. Most recently Wales on Line described Jefferson Montero as a Swansea misfit upon leaving the Midlands club on June 30th as a free agent. Montero is still only thirty and it seems is destined for an injury ridden end to his career.

Statto time

My first trip to Birmingham was in 1995 with the old MAGS from Gloucester etc. How we came away with a win still baffles me today. John Hodge scored a penalty, zulus were out with smiley faces, our mini bus had an empty McDonald’s carton thrown at it causing ...
No damage at all. Marc Clode was sent off. If I recall it was at half time, somebody will correct me but I recall a Birmingham fan running on the pitch and trying to attack Jon Forde ? Anyway, it’s all in the game as they say. That could have been another game.
The local football phone in had one Birmingham supporter stating when you lose to Swansea you know you are in the shit 😂

John Hodge, came to the MAGS end of season dinner in 1995 in Gloucester, caused mayhem, went to his hotel Very drunk after leaving much disaster in his wake. The pub, which I think was called the The Dog at Over on the A40 had bouncers in because gypsies were coming in to the bar and causing problems. Hodge found out they were from Cardiff, one tapped his head and BOOOOOM ! It didn’t end well. Oh happy days. It’s a Matchday thread with a difference this week.

More interesting Matchday stats will follow


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Gallagher to join WBA
at 08:05 15 Sep 2020

Season long loan.
Not sure if we were ever in for him but it doesn't matter now.
Jack's in East Wales
at 05:14 15 Sep 2020

I'm fully aware that 95% of West Wales is white, irrespective of what the lunatics in lego tell us, but how many of you Jack's come from Bridgend and the east. Seems to be more and more, especially younger kids. Sing up Jack's, be proud. We have no competition.
Where are ya!
Frederick Nathaniel "Toots" Hibbert
at 19:37 13 Sep 2020

RIP, the godfather of ska and reggae.
Pressure Drop.

What a songwriter.
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UK trade deal done with Japan
at 23:05 12 Sep 2020

Any of our more informed posters got views on this ?
Derrick Williams
at 12:47 12 Sep 2020

Is he still on the clubs radar ?
Let’s not forget
at 01:57 12 Sep 2020

8 million the price on Brewster head.
at 16:54 11 Sep 2020

What we need is a new investor.
I can’t believe no other premier league side has come in for him.
WBA, Villa etc.
We seem to be dragging our feet.
Alan Minter RIP
at 22:57 10 Sep 2020

Well before my boxing time, but he was some craftsman.
Preston North End v Swansea City : Matchday Thread
at 13:06 9 Sep 2020

Saturday 12th September 2020, Deepdale Stadium, Lancashire. Kick off 3pm

iFollow PNE
Swans Tv
Highlights on Quest TV, Saturday at 9pm.


Latest team news
George Byers is the only Swans player unavailable.
Preston have a full squad to select from.

Probably the most memorable game was on the 2nd May 1981 at Deepdale when the swans won 3-1 to secure promotion to the old division one under John Toshack. For a lot of older swans fans this was pay back for the 2-1 loss at Villa Park in March 1964 in front of 63,000 half of which were Swansea Town supporters. At the end of that game Preston won 2-1 in what was described at the time as a pretty poor referee display with decisions going against the swans which were let’s say ‘extremely questionable’

Some memories from 1981.

Another fantastic swans memory came in September 2008 when Ferrie Bodde scored a scintillating 40 yard plus goal on twenty minutes. The swans won the game 2-0 that night with Jordi Gomez getting the second goal from the penalty spot.

Jordi Gomez & Ferrie Bodde

Swans fans are none too confident regards this game, the lack of team strengthening and seemingly too many players waiting to move on spells out a home win, a draw would be acceptable.


Freddie Flintoff was born in Preston, and KFC opened their first restaurant in the U.K. in Preston. Here’s one for you, one of the first women’s football teams formed in Preston, yes they were called ‘Dick Kerr Ladies’ Er ... Is that ok ?

Preston has the tallest church spire in England and has a pretty large B&M as well.

Here’s a semi interesting thing about our hosts this weekend. Preston and its surrounding area have provided evidence of ancient Roman activity, largely in the form of a Roman road which led to a camp at Walton-le-Dale. The Angles established Preston; its name is derived from the Old English meaning "priest's settlement" and in the Domesday Book is recorded as "Prestune".

The Domesday Book yesterday.

It would be at this point we would do a pubs to visit and hotels recommended. Pretty pointless really. However, it’s safe to say they do have pubs and hotels in Preston, which is commendable.

We shouldn’t leave our fact finding mission on Preston without covering one of the towns best public houses, The Black Horse. Conveniently situated next to Wilkos, once you have bought a shit load of bargains you didn’t know you needed you can relax and choose from the many local ales and fizzy lagers served to your table.

This is the Black Horse, next door as you can see is Wilkos, who are in direct competition with many of B&M’s products.

Swansea hold the most wins between the two teams with 25, the swans biggest win was 5-0 in 1929, although they have recorded numerous four goal games. In that game one Jack Armand played for the swans, the clubs first overseas player. Born in India and Anglo Indian he played for two seasons and scored ten goals in around fifty appearances. Not bad, a bit like Stephen Torpey.

Jack Armand and the Swansea Town 1929/30 squad. Jack is in the middle row third from left. Or four from the right for political equality.

Fotmob make Preston favourites for the game, with a draw next favourable. If this game is anything like last seasons Deepdale confrontation we should be in for a cracker.

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Extended highlights from the game are now here.

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Compensation during local lockdowns.
at 18:13 8 Sep 2020

Bolton, Caerphilly etc.
Is this the govt way of saving money on a total lockdown, billions spent on furlough and other measures. This surely means it won’t be that impactive, other than on the businesses and people.

Surely now though we have to live with this virus, ICU Nationwide are pretty empty and deaths are nothing like before. This is all about infections, not full hospitals and deaths.
What are your top six, bottom three predictions for 2020/21 season
at 18:09 7 Sep 2020

For me.

Norwich City
Bristol City

Wild card Coventry City


Sheffield Weds 12 points hard to make up.

Swans around 10th, Leckwith around the same placing.
Darran the Karen being a prick still
at 07:44 7 Sep 2020

Good old ironside, talking bullshit, manufacturing stuff to suit his usual bollox.
Stating I’m pissed when I’m working, I haven’t had an alcoholic drink for nine years.
I never intended to post anything about the other site, but there are times when I wish he was able bodied, just so I could give him the hiding he deserves. 😂

Thanks Itchy btw, I’m sure his manufactured bullshit didn’t impress you that much.
After weeks of ECB, Monty ( I haven’t forgotten) and Darren instigating hate on their new site I responded, three serious cowards with little or no back bone, Wheelchair only wanted to start banning me and Kerouac because he was booted off here for trying to destroy the existence of the new set up on fans network. That’s what bullys do, they hide behind bullshit and try and encourage others to believe them. Regardless of what happened between them his relentless pursuit of Perch was hideous and Steve who did the TV threads, Continuously calling him a liar. Darran is and aLways has been the problem, if Phil had a pair he would have booted him years ago. Steve would be welcome on here I’m sure his info was spot on.

It may well be I should not respond, but I never back down, ever.


And he still lurks on here 👩🏼‍🦽
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Wales v Bulgaria ¦ Matchday Thread
at 20:39 5 Sep 2020

Nations League Group B4
2pm Kick Off
Sunday September 6th 2020
Near to Leckwith Stadium, South Glamorgan

Referee Fabio Verissimo, Age 37, Portugal. Today’s ref has managed 241 matches in his career from champions league to international friendlies. He tested positive for Covid 19 in April, but by all accounts he is feeling a lot better now. He has a big house in his home country.

A Portuguese house yesterday.

Optus Sport
Sky Go Extra
Sky Sports Football
Sky Sports Main Event

Wales 11/20
Bulgaria 6/1
Draw 29/10

Other odds are available including no odds at all.

Wales have not lost any of their last 5 games, Bulgaria have won 1 of their last five.
Wales lead Group H after a convincing 1-0 away win in Finland, Bulgaria drew 1-1 at home in the Levaki stadium, Sophia.


Gareth Bale, loves golf

Wales are still without several first-team players for Sunday's Nations League match against Bulgaria but boosted by the return of David Brooks.

The Bournemouth attacking midfielder, 23, was added to the squad on Friday after recovering from an ankle injury.

Wales' long list of absentees includes Aaron Ramsey, Joe Allen, Chris Mepham, Joe Rodon and Tom Lawrence.

Ryan Giggs' side won without them in Finland on Thursday and could make changes for the Bulgaria fixture.

Giggs is considering a first start for Liverpool's 19-year-old full-back Neco Williams after he impressed from the bench in Helsinki.

Williams was one of three players to make their Wales debuts against Finland, with another 19-year-old, Manchester United's Dylan Levitt, starting in midfield and Swansea City centre-back Ben Cabango, 20, coming on as a substitute.

Wales captain Gareth Bale was taken off at half-time as he was lacking match fitness, and the Real Madrid forward's minutes may be managed again in Cardiff.

The same could be true of Liverpool attacking midfielder Harry Wilson, who came on for Bale against Finland.

"We had a few knocks from the other night - Jonny Williams had a knock, Harry Wilson a little dead leg. Gareth a little knock - but everyone trained today [Saturday]," said Giggs.

"Everyone's available with Broosky coming back in and I've got a selection headache. It's a good position to be in."

Brooks, who has not played for Wales since June 2019 because of injury, is a welcome addition to Giggs' attacking options.

West Bromwich Albion forward Hal Robson-Kanu could feature for the first time since 2017.

The 31-year-old is back in the Wales squad after reversing his decision to retire from international football but did not play a minute during the victory in Finland.

Meanwhile, Bulgaria will be without captain Petar Zanev after the defender was injured during Thursday's 1-1 draw with the Republic of Ireland.

Wales record v Bulgaria.

27 Apr 1983 Wales v Bulgaria W 1-0 UEFA European Championship
16 Nov 1983 Bulgaria v Wales L 1-0 UEFA European Championship
14 Dec 1994 Wales v Bulgaria L 0-3 UEFA European Championship
29 Mar 1995 Bulgaria v Wales L 3-1 UEFA European Championship
15 Aug 2006 Wales v Bulgaria D 0-0 International Friendly
22 Aug 2007 Bulgaria v Wales W 0-1 International Friendly
08 Oct 2010 Wales v Bulgaria L 0-1 UEFA European Championship
11 Oct 2011 Bulgaria v Wales W 0-1 UEFA European Championship

In their first ever meeting Jeremy Charles scored the winning goal at the racecourse in a 1-0 victory.
Referee that day was Siegfried Kirschen, then Europe’s smallest referee.
Competition UEFA European Championship Group 4
Attendance 9,006.

Famous ?
Hristo Stoichkov Stoichkov, probably the best known Bulgarian footballer, Played nearly 450 games in his career scoring 220 goals, He played for Sofia and Barca and finished his career at D.C. United, yes them. His favourite food is Chinese and he used to sell both Orange and lemon flavoured Tango drinks from a wheelbarrow when he was a kid outside his fathers greengrocers.

A famous old man of Leckwith is Writer Ronald Dahl who often placed dead mice in the jars of sweets at his local sweet shop because the owner didn’t like him.

Bulgaria facts
Bulgaria is famous as the oldest country in Europe! Founded in 681 AD by Khan Asparuh and since then preserved its original name. Bulgaria is also famous for its natural diversity as mountains, plains, Black Sea Coast, rivers, lakes and hot springs. Wolves and bears are found in abundance in Bulgaria, some actually dance for money.

Talking of Chinese food, Ryan Giggs, not to be confused with his brother Rhodri, although it is an easy mistake to make is current Wales manager and was born in Canton and wisely moved to Manchester at the age of six. He played for Great Britain on 4 occasions.
Giggs is one of the most decorated footballers of all time. During his time at Manchester United, he won 13 Premier League winner's medals, four FA Cup winner's medals, three League Cup winner's medals, two UEFA Champions League winner's medals, a FIFA Club World Cup winners medal, an Intercontinental Cup winner's medal, a UEFA Super Cup winner's medal and nine FA Community Shield winner's medals. Manchester United and Liverpool are the only clubs in English football history to have won more league championships than Giggs. Giggs captained United on numerous occasions, particularly in the 2007–08 season when regular captain Gary Neville was ruled out with various injuries.
He is co-owner at Salford City. His dad played rugby and apparently liked it quite a lot.

Team news


W Hennessey
C Roberts
T Lockyer
E Ampadu
B Davies
M Smith
J Morrell
D Brooks
G Bale (c)
D James
K Moore
B Cabango
D Levitt
R Matondo
N Williams
D Ward
W Vaulks
J Williams
H Wilson
A Davies
H Robson-Kanu
C Gunter
J Lawrence

G Georgiev
N Gusmao
K Dimitrov
A Nedyalkov
I Goranov
Y Karabelyov
G Kostadinov (c)
G Ivanov
B Karagaren
B Kraev
T Nedelev
M Lukov
V Nikolaev Popov
S Slavov Rabotov
I Isa
D Iliev
S Delev
F Yavorov Krastev
S Popov
N Mihaylov
P Galabov
A Tsvetkov
S Kovachev

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Cooper says a striker is a priority
at 16:59 5 Sep 2020

Point taken Steve, so ...
Here’s hoping you have some ideas.
Newport County v Swansea City : Matchday Thread
at 02:37 5 Sep 2020

League Cup first round, Rodney Parade. Gwent
Kick off 3pm
Referee Kevin Johnson, Gloucestershire.

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Swans TV, UK only £10

Betfair odds
Newport 18/5
Swansea 3/4
Draw 3/1

The last time The Swans and County met in the League cup was over two legs with Swansea City winning 6-2 on aggregate.
12 Aug 1978 Newport County v Swansea City W 2-1 League Cup
15 Aug 1978 Swansea City v Newport County L 5-0 League Cup

The first time the clubs met was in 1921 at Newport in Division Three South with the match being drawn 1-1. The last time was in the FL Trophy with the Swans U23 winning 2-1 away.

Newport County & Swansea City team news
County have had a busy window with the signings of striker Ryan Taylor from Plymouth, David Longe-King from St Albans City, Saikou Janneh from Bristol City and right-back Liam Shephard from fellow League Two side Forest Green Rovers.
With the losses of Brewster and club captain Mike Van Der Hoorn, Swansea have bolstered their squad with the signing of winger Jamal Lowe, Korey Smith from Bristol City, resigning Freddie Woodman from Newcastle and Marc Guehi from Chelsea on loan and a further loan signing of Wolves midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White.
Both squads could be full of debutants come Saturday at Rodney Parade.

Morgan Gibbs-White

Midfielder Morgan Gibbs-White is one of the most promising young players in English football, having won both the Championship with Wolves and the Under-17 World Cup with England in 2017.

The 20-year-old has made 53 appearances for Wolves so far, and scored his first goal for the club in August 2019 during the clubs Europa League qualifier with FC Pyunik.

Gibbs-White will be hoping he can establish himself as a first-team regular this season, and that could start with a debut this weekend.

Updates to follow. Join in Jacks and enjoy the game.

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Oh well, shot for being the suspect shotter 😂
at 14:26 4 Sep 2020

One more less.
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