| Front pages again on 12:03 - Oct 24 with 1960 views | Gloucs_R |
| Front pages again on 11:32 - Oct 24 by robith |
I've always felt the onus is on blokes not to sexually assault people but hey what do I know |
Did I disagree with that?? See my comment two above yours!
No excuses for sexual assault...none. |  |
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| Front pages again on 12:39 - Oct 24 with 1896 views | nix |
Really proud of some of the enlightened attitudes on here. I’ve been fighting a rearguard action against posters on a largely femaie website stating that all men are creeps. I used this website (not naming it) as an example of men that do understand women’s issues and aren’t part of the problem, largely, but part of the solution.
I did experience tons of low level harassment and assault as a young woman. Hands put up my skirt in broad daylight, boobs grabbed, a number of flashers, a guy wnking in front of me as I came round a corner late at night (that turned out quite funny as he scuttled off with trousers round his ankles when I screamed my head off - but I was really scared at the time), being groped in the office by an old guy when I was alone, guy put hand on my thigh on a train when I was 12, being groped by older sister’s boyfriend when staying the night at his flat when I was 15 and he was 40 (she was there too but obviously didn’t know about it!) Yes it happens. Luckily nothing further than that though I did feel threatened at times, but managed to get out of it. Also fortunately I’m ancient enough for it not to happen now. I also believe it’s nowhere near the majority of guys, just a minority that do it a lot.
But I also think it’s hard to stand up against it without sounding po-faced and anti-men. Which is why this thread is so refreshing. Thanks guys. |  | | |
| Front pages again on 13:14 - Oct 24 with 1830 views | DeepcutHoop |
| Front pages again on 11:31 - Oct 24 by robith |
And we wonder why women don't come forward |
Yep. Instead of picking on the occasional attention-seeker that will inevitably join in with this kind of social media campaigns, and using that to ridicule the whole thing, we should be focussing on the huge number of women that are finally able to talk about the shite they have to put up with on a regular basis, let alone those with actual assaults and rape in their past.
You really can see why it takes so long before people are willing to talk about these things from some of the reactions to this I've seen on various websites and SM.
If someone like Terry Crews can be sexually molested and not feel able to come forward until much later, nobody should be made to feel bad for waiting until there was safety in numbers before telling their story. |  | | |
| Front pages again on 14:23 - Oct 24 with 1740 views | Juzzie |
| Front pages again on 10:16 - Oct 24 by daveB |
you'd hope in the modern world a woman could be left alone with a man without being raped no matter what she was wearing or how much she'd had to drink |
Not wishing to blow my own trumpet but on the day of the Euro '96 final, I did just that.
Had been on a Saturday/Sunday drinking weekend (with some food inbetween!) with a girl I knew and by Sunday evening, and her getting a bit flirtatious, we ended up crashing at hers.
I sorted out the chinese takeaway in her kitchen and brought it in to her room. She was passed out on her bed. It was a hot June day and she was just in her knickers, no top on.
So, I ate my dinner and jumped in, went to sleep.
A few weeks later it was my birthday. We're down the pub and in front of my mates, recounting that weekend, she said "what kind of man do you call yourself, didn't even try anything!".
"err, you were passed out" I said "wouldn't that constitute as rape?"
Basically I told her what for and never saw her again for a few years. At least by then she apologised for what she said.
So yes, there are good guys out there. |  | | |
| Front pages again on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 1717 views | Gloucs_R |
If you could blow your own trumpet, she wouldn't have fallen asleep!!  | |
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| Front pages again on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 1711 views | Juzzie |
I was waiting for that!! | | | |
| Front pages again on 14:41 - Oct 24 with 1696 views | FDC |
As mentioned above, the Sun splashing semi-naked photos of someone next to their accounts of sexual assault is simultaneously appalling and predictable. If nothing else it makes explicit that fact that we still live with a 'rape culture' in this country: it's ok to on the hand pay lip-service to being disapproving of assualting a young woman, but to also leer over her holiday photos whilst you do so.
There's been a lot of words written about the Weinstein revelations, but I thought these were some of the best I've read, doing a good job at highlighting the linkage between gendered violence and economics.
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/10/harvey-weinstein-and-t
@Nix
No, of course not all men are bad on an individual, personal basis. But the man construct is unambiguously violent towards women. We need only look at the figures on violent crime against women to see that. [Post edited 24 Oct 2017 14:42]
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| Front pages again on 14:54 - Oct 24 with 1666 views | Boston |
| Front pages again on 14:33 - Oct 24 by Juzzie |
I was waiting for that!! |
I bet you were. | |
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| Front pages again on 14:56 - Oct 24 with 1661 views | Boston |
| Front pages again on 12:39 - Oct 24 by nix |
Really proud of some of the enlightened attitudes on here. I’ve been fighting a rearguard action against posters on a largely femaie website stating that all men are creeps. I used this website (not naming it) as an example of men that do understand women’s issues and aren’t part of the problem, largely, but part of the solution.
I did experience tons of low level harassment and assault as a young woman. Hands put up my skirt in broad daylight, boobs grabbed, a number of flashers, a guy wnking in front of me as I came round a corner late at night (that turned out quite funny as he scuttled off with trousers round his ankles when I screamed my head off - but I was really scared at the time), being groped in the office by an old guy when I was alone, guy put hand on my thigh on a train when I was 12, being groped by older sister’s boyfriend when staying the night at his flat when I was 15 and he was 40 (she was there too but obviously didn’t know about it!) Yes it happens. Luckily nothing further than that though I did feel threatened at times, but managed to get out of it. Also fortunately I’m ancient enough for it not to happen now. I also believe it’s nowhere near the majority of guys, just a minority that do it a lot.
But I also think it’s hard to stand up against it without sounding po-faced and anti-men. Which is why this thread is so refreshing. Thanks guys. |
You should have had that Weinstein nixed | |
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