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Election in Oz 09:23 - May 18 with 3764 viewsisawqpratwcity

The polls have just closed in the eastern states, two hours to go in Western Australia.

Also noted for the death on Thursday of the sublime Australian Prime Minister, Bob Hawke.

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Election in Oz on 20:26 - May 20 with 1037 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Election in Oz on 23:28 - May 19 by CliveWilsonSaid

It makes you wonder about whether polls have ever actually been accurate. Or whether they were just a means to an end.


Pav’s crosses weren’t that bad! And I didn’t hear you moan when he got in the end of that one against Fulham a few years back.

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Election in Oz on 22:51 - May 20 with 970 viewshoopsmark

Can we get back to Kylie please? I need more info......
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Election in Oz on 23:53 - May 20 with 940 viewsSydneyRs

Election in Oz on 09:16 - May 20 by robith

@Northern (cos I don't want to quote the whole thing

You can do a nationally representative poll with 1,000, ideally 2,000 with a margin of error o 3-5% (you can do 500, but the margin of error because too large for me).

The issues are threefold for me

- Profiling of base - for e.g YouGov constantly hilariously underestimates Labour support , likewise Opinium seems to overstate it.

- How the press then report polls. YG currently have Labour at 15% in the EU elections when the average of all other polls have them at 25%. But then what is the poll that's on the front pages?

- No one seems to think about how the polls relate to the electoral map. In 2015 the polls on the day had Tories 34%, Labour 33%. Tories got 36, Labour 29%. All inside margin of error.

But because it's amalgamated at a national level, it failed to notice that the Lib Dems haemorrhaged support to Conservatives specifically in the South and West and coughed up a load of seats that gave them an unexpected majority. It matters less what the numbers in the poll are, but where they are


This is spot on and applies equally in Australia. Labor got hammered in Queensland and that's a very different demographic to NSW for example. The polls completely missed this.
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Election in Oz on 23:55 - Jun 9 with 771 viewsTacticalR

I don't know a whole lot about Australian politics.

I had to think about it about a few months ago when I heard Tom O'Brien's interview withTad Tietze on the Alpha to Omega podcast about what Tietze sees as the positive side of anti-politics, and there was some discussion about the detachment of politicians from Australian society. In the middle of the second episode Tietze gets into the appeal of Rudd (as a politician who had been able to ride the anti-politics wave).




On Hawke I found this 2017 interview on the Living The Dream podcast with Liz Humphrys who did her PhD on The Accord really interesting:

https://livingthedream.podbean.com/e/living-the-dream-under-the-accord/

From what Humphrys was saying I get the impression that at one point trade unions in Australia were even more important than in Britain.

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Election in Oz on 01:54 - Jun 10 with 732 viewsBoston

Yeah, dunno much about Aussie politics, ‘cept they have the most dangerous snakes in the world.

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Election in Oz on 03:33 - Jun 10 with 710 viewsozranger

Election in Oz on 01:54 - Jun 10 by Boston

Yeah, dunno much about Aussie politics, ‘cept they have the most dangerous snakes in the world.


And some of the spiders. Also, don't forget the drop bears. Nasty creature they be.
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Election in Oz on 03:52 - Jun 10 with 708 viewstimcocking

How the hell could they actually find any Australians who can pass themselves off as politicians? I've never met any like that.
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Election in Oz on 06:28 - Jun 10 with 683 viewsdistortR

Election in Oz on 03:52 - Jun 10 by timcocking

How the hell could they actually find any Australians who can pass themselves off as politicians? I've never met any like that.


well, a lot of the white ones are like us, but with a bit more national confidence.

a lot of the black ones are still pissed that people like us came and booted them off their land, and worse.
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