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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 18:54 - Feb 21 with 2766 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 18:17 - Feb 21 by dannyuk
I don't understand what happened with the Moss booking. Looked from where I was like he won a header, their player wiped him out late, free-kick to them and card for Moss. I could be wrong... did I just imagine that happening?
Had a beer and a good chat with this fella (as did some others off here) before the game who will be writing up a blog about today - go give him a follow.
He got booked in a different incident.
Maestro? No.
Elite? No.
Heavyweight poster? No.
Able to be rational and not over-react to individual results? Yes.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:00 - Feb 21 with 2720 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 18:54 - Feb 21 by TVOS1907
He got booked in a different incident.
Thanks, I thought I may have been mistaken. Must just be with some chants "off off" and them getting the freekick I've dreamed up that he got booked there.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:00 - Feb 21 with 2719 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 06:24 - Feb 21 by pioneer
The only game we have failed to score in….lets hope we make them pay for that while putting an end to our midseason ‘slump’…two games without a win and conceded goals in three consecutive games. Hadn't done either all season. That really highlights how well we have been going until the recent games.
Job done…’slump’ ended.
If Hornets beat winless Hunslet tomorrow it will mean both the towns professional teams are top of the league. I dont think that has happened ever in 118 years.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:37 - Feb 21 with 2476 views
I have been one of McNulty's biggest critics on here but if we do manage to finish above York this season then it will be the greatest achievement of any Dale manager in most of our lifetimes. We go again on Tuesday in this relentless schedule.
[Post edited 21 Feb 20:26]
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:53 - Feb 21 with 2409 views
We played very well today, hopefully we can repeat it on Tuesday at Halifax and get another win, and hopefully Scunthorpe will do us a favour on Tuesday, but I somehow doubt it.
In respect to the referee and linesman (Wilbutts lane side) was shocking today, the foul on Gordon was a clear penalty and Mani offside goal was not offside. There was another decision by the linesman, when he ruled Rodney (I think) offside, despite a yard behind the Woking defender.
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:37 - Feb 21 by Clivert
I have been one of McNulty's biggest critics on here but if we do manage to finish above York this season then it will be the greatest achievement of any Dale manager in most of our lifetimes. We go again on Tuesday in this relentless schedule.
[Post edited 21 Feb 20:26]
Ha ha ha Clivert don’t you mean Biggest critic!! 😜
I think if they get well over 100 points then that’s a massive achievement regardless of where York finish.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 21:08 - Feb 21 with 2069 views
I feel that for the disallowed goal, Manny D was onside. For Gordon's yellow, the defender does pull out of the challenge, and it looks like a dive. Think we got lucky with the penalty. It looks like the defender got the ball.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 22:51 - Feb 21 with 1709 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:53 - Feb 21 by NorthernDale
We played very well today, hopefully we can repeat it on Tuesday at Halifax and get another win, and hopefully Scunthorpe will do us a favour on Tuesday, but I somehow doubt it.
In respect to the referee and linesman (Wilbutts lane side) was shocking today, the foul on Gordon was a clear penalty and Mani offside goal was not offside. There was another decision by the linesman, when he ruled Rodney (I think) offside, despite a yard behind the Woking defender.
But I will take the win.
Great result and performance today.....but we can't shake those pesky Yorkies off.
At least they roughed up Halifax for us ahead of Tuesday......Scunny blow hot and cold, I hope they are the former against the Minstermen, but fear not. What is a slight worry is the rise and rise of Aldershot who dispatched Scunny within 35 mins today. The Shots are 2nd in the form league, better than us!
A game at a time and Dale are back on song....we just keep going.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 23:03 - Feb 21 with 1681 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 22:51 - Feb 21 by Yorkshire_Dale
Great result and performance today.....but we can't shake those pesky Yorkies off.
At least they roughed up Halifax for us ahead of Tuesday......Scunny blow hot and cold, I hope they are the former against the Minstermen, but fear not. What is a slight worry is the rise and rise of Aldershot who dispatched Scunny within 35 mins today. The Shots are 2nd in the form league, better than us!
A game at a time and Dale are back on song....we just keep going.
Coleman seems to have got Aldershot firing now.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 07:41 - Feb 22 with 1306 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 19:37 - Feb 21 by Clivert
I have been one of McNulty's biggest critics on here but if we do manage to finish above York this season then it will be the greatest achievement of any Dale manager in most of our lifetimes. We go again on Tuesday in this relentless schedule.
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I think that’s an insult to the two promotions Keith Hill had with us. Just for perspective, we’re in non-league and the level is terrible. Secondly, we’ve have had a decent budget and have probably some of the best players in the league. Don’t want to p*ss on anyone’s chips but it’s not fair to compare this, potential, achievement with our previous successes.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:03 - Feb 22 with 1248 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 07:41 - Feb 22 by springdale
I think that’s an insult to the two promotions Keith Hill had with us. Just for perspective, we’re in non-league and the level is terrible. Secondly, we’ve have had a decent budget and have probably some of the best players in the league. Don’t want to p*ss on anyone’s chips but it’s not fair to compare this, potential, achievement with our previous successes.
I've no doubt that'll have some people foaming at the mouth, but you make a fair point
The best thing is just to celebrate it, if it happens. It'd be record-breaking in one way or another, almost certainly in terms of points per game, wins, etc. and either a league title or Wembley win
Without getting too far ahead of ourselves, McNulty would then have the chance to emulate Hill, and the Stokoe/Richley acheivement which should never be forgotten
With one automatic spot and one playoff place it is a much more difficult league to get out of. I think it was mentioned that we had around the 6th highest budget in the league so we are still batting above our average. The 2010 team included Dawson and O'Grady who went on to play at a much higher level. Even McCardle ended up playing in the Scottish Premier League.
Our first promotion winning team was arguably better than our second.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:29 - Feb 22 with 1145 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:08 - Feb 22 by isitme
With one automatic spot and one playoff place it is a much more difficult league to get out of. I think it was mentioned that we had around the 6th highest budget in the league so we are still batting above our average. The 2010 team included Dawson and O'Grady who went on to play at a much higher level. Even McCardle ended up playing in the Scottish Premier League.
Our first promotion winning team was arguably better than our second.
Presume you mean Hill's first promotion team? I'd agree with that
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:08 - Feb 22 by isitme
With one automatic spot and one playoff place it is a much more difficult league to get out of. I think it was mentioned that we had around the 6th highest budget in the league so we are still batting above our average. The 2010 team included Dawson and O'Grady who went on to play at a much higher level. Even McCardle ended up playing in the Scottish Premier League.
Our first promotion winning team was arguably better than our second.
But those teams were assembled on a show string budget. I’m not discrediting anyone with regards to this years achievement, just don’t think it’s better than our previous promotions. When you look at the teams we came up against.
Do you think we’re overachieving this season? Because we definitely were when we got promoted to league one.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:38 - Feb 22 with 1100 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 07:41 - Feb 22 by springdale
I think that’s an insult to the two promotions Keith Hill had with us. Just for perspective, we’re in non-league and the level is terrible. Secondly, we’ve have had a decent budget and have probably some of the best players in the league. Don’t want to p*ss on anyone’s chips but it’s not fair to compare this, potential, achievement with our previous successes.
It is in no way an insult.
York are an absolute unit of a team and to finish above them this season would be a remarkable achievement and if they were to go up (via the playoffs hopefully) then I'd fully expect them to be challenging at the top end of league 2 next season.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:40 - Feb 22 with 1086 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:08 - Feb 22 by isitme
With one automatic spot and one playoff place it is a much more difficult league to get out of. I think it was mentioned that we had around the 6th highest budget in the league so we are still batting above our average. The 2010 team included Dawson and O'Grady who went on to play at a much higher level. Even McCardle ended up playing in the Scottish Premier League.
Our first promotion winning team was arguably better than our second.
It’s all relative I think. There’s comparing on stats alone and comparing on all other factors.
We’ve definitely had better teams and players over the years in terms of ability. And a lot that have been miles worse of course. Despite the odd crushing disappointment/rubbish performance which is part of being a supporter, turning up to games in the last couple of years has been enjoyable again.
I don’t know of any fan who has been respectful towards what has obviously been a long term plan all of a sudden claiming this is the greatest team we’ve ever had with our best ever manager. Being reactionary when we’re winning would indicate a lack of appreciation of what has come before. Sticking to a philosophy that could have been doubted, to produce consistent results is the biggest achievement of the current era so far.
McNulty and this group of players have still got to achieve promotion. That’s going to be a massive task and only time will tell if they can make it. Should they not, it’ll probably still be the season when we break all sorts of records. If we don’t go up after that, it will show how ridiculously good York have been too.
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:37 - Feb 22 by springdale
But those teams were assembled on a show string budget. I’m not discrediting anyone with regards to this years achievement, just don’t think it’s better than our previous promotions. When you look at the teams we came up against.
Do you think we’re overachieving this season? Because we definitely were when we got promoted to league one.
By the time we did get promoted under Hill the first time, we were one of the favourites for promotion.. The second one in 13/14 was definitely a case of over achieving as Hill had only just returned and started to rebuild the squad.
Would have to see the actual budgets to compare, and it would be difficult as it depends what is classed as an average wage at any point. It’s the same with comparing opposition, times have changed in football and how teams play. Very difficult to do.
I certainly think the top end of this league has teams with far better footballers than those seen in the 80s/90s/00s in ‘Division 4’, but at the same time would they have been able to play in those eras?!
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:38 - Feb 22 by Clivert
It is in no way an insult.
York are an absolute unit of a team and to finish above them this season would be a remarkable achievement and if they were to go up (via the playoffs hopefully) then I'd fully expect them to be challenging at the top end of league 2 next season.
To get promoted would be a huge achievement if you look at the many years the likes of Stockport and
Wrexham spent in various non leagues..their fan bases were far higher than ours..not a clue as to the financial
situation at either during that time..County went thro various managers.
Having the biggest budget or the best players guarantees nothing..yes it gives you an advantage but can they actually perform as a team week in week out...attitude over ability always.
This Dale team has both in abundance
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 09:02 - Feb 22 with 966 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 22:51 - Feb 21 by Yorkshire_Dale
Great result and performance today.....but we can't shake those pesky Yorkies off.
At least they roughed up Halifax for us ahead of Tuesday......Scunny blow hot and cold, I hope they are the former against the Minstermen, but fear not. What is a slight worry is the rise and rise of Aldershot who dispatched Scunny within 35 mins today. The Shots are 2nd in the form league, better than us!
A game at a time and Dale are back on song....we just keep going.
Boston also on form and both they & Shots still to play us & York!
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:48 - Feb 22 by 442Dale
By the time we did get promoted under Hill the first time, we were one of the favourites for promotion.. The second one in 13/14 was definitely a case of over achieving as Hill had only just returned and started to rebuild the squad.
Would have to see the actual budgets to compare, and it would be difficult as it depends what is classed as an average wage at any point. It’s the same with comparing opposition, times have changed in football and how teams play. Very difficult to do.
I certainly think the top end of this league has teams with far better footballers than those seen in the 80s/90s/00s in ‘Division 4’, but at the same time would they have been able to play in those eras?!
I suppose one major factor would be that all the teams were professional. Going off that basis I’d probably say that you’re competing with every team in the league rather than the top six.
I do agree with with your points about comparing, it’s very difficult.
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Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 09:17 - Feb 22 with 900 views
Refwatch - Rochdale v Woking on 08:48 - Feb 22 by 442Dale
By the time we did get promoted under Hill the first time, we were one of the favourites for promotion.. The second one in 13/14 was definitely a case of over achieving as Hill had only just returned and started to rebuild the squad.
Would have to see the actual budgets to compare, and it would be difficult as it depends what is classed as an average wage at any point. It’s the same with comparing opposition, times have changed in football and how teams play. Very difficult to do.
I certainly think the top end of this league has teams with far better footballers than those seen in the 80s/90s/00s in ‘Division 4’, but at the same time would they have been able to play in those eras?!
I think it is fair to say that our budgets have always been tight compared to the bigger clubs in any of the leagues we have competed. When we got into League One we were told we had a playing budget of £3.5m. Allowing for inflation that would be around £4.25m today. Carlisle and Forest Green Rovers to name just two clubs has a larger playing budget than that in the National League. We are spending less than £2m today. Quite remarkable really.
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