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"This time next year, Rodders - we'll be millionaires".
Step forward Faical Safouane; 2nd director of Morton House.
The EFL will be doing this, if they are a credible buyer, so there is no reason we should let the EFL have all of the fun.
We are saving the Darrell Rose thread as a "Special". There's lots and lots that people need to know about Darrell and his business dealings but that is for another time.
Faical Safouane is registered as a working director of Morton House Mgt and First Form Construction Limited. He works alongside his other two directors Darrell Rose and Denise Valarie Courtnell.
Faical was born in January 1984 so compared to Denise he is just a young pup running a multi-million pound payroll services company. At the tender age of 37 (I remember those years well), he's made it to the top of the game.
Except young Faical:
a) Doesn't show up on the electoral register - but who likes to vote for pesky politicians. b) He doesn't have a social media profile on Facebook c) He doesn't use LinkedIn for business development
For a guy who is one of three people running a payroll services company in the construction sector he is, shall we say, someone secretive.
Faical has multiple addresses if you want to write to him: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/search?q=Faical+SAFOU 1) 111 Watling Gate 297-303 Edgware Road, London, England, NW9 6NB 2) 68 Lombard Street, London, England, EC3V 9LJ 3) Flat 3 Eton Walk, 2 Upton Park, Slough, United Kingdom, SL1 2DP
Hmmm - two generic postal boxes and a flat in Slough. I wonder which one would be the best one to find him at?
In March 2020 a company called COLEMAN MANAGEMENT SERVICES LIMITED was set up and Denise was a Director before handing the reigns over to young Faical.
Guess what - its filed no accounts so far and its nature of business is "Management consultancy activities other than financial management"
That's more than fishy when you consider that Faical's main job is being one of three directors of a payroll company - which is financial management.
What would the folks at HMRC say I wonder?
Now some questions:
1) How many 37 year old's don't have a Facebook profile in 2021 but are a successful multi-company director? 2) How are Denise, aged 78 and Faical linked? Are they long lost lovers? 3) What first attracted him to agreeing to his company making an multi million pound investment in the Dale? 4) Can he pay left back?
There's lots to consider here for the EFL, perhaps someone can pass across a Woodbine (Moroccan or otherwise) whilst we all have a bit of a pause and a think about what really is going on.
Darrell Rose still to come folks; he is the big fish in all of this.
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 22:48 - Oct 20 by wozzrafc
Coleman managed services has had Mark Forster as a director who in turn was a director at CP Payroll solutions with Ian Dingwall. Dingwall was involved with supreme the company that Curran was a director.
These people do seem to set up, run , take over and liquidate businesses within a small circle of acquaintances.
'These people do seem to set up, run, take over and liquidate businesses'
Add RAFC to that list should they ever get through the door! We are so lucky we still have a club!
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 01:30 - Oct 21 with 5518 views
How is the Integration Money Laundering Stage Achieved?
Often ‘dirty’ money is ‘cleaned’ and integrated into financial systems through:
Investments into the property market, high-end cars, artwork, jewellery or other highly-priced commodities. False invoices with the over-evaluation of the value of goods imported or exported into a country.'
Property Market ✅ Didn't Curran say he had made his money in property? High-end Cars ✅ Rolls Royce Cullinan from LKC Motors, anybody? Highly Priced Commodities ✅ Football clubs aren't cheap! Over-Evaluation of Goods ✅ What are shares in Dale ACTUALLY worth compared to what MH paid?
In one small paragrah from the St Pauls Chambers link, we've hit the target more than Dale have since mid-September! If you were to cross reference against the whole article, it'd be an absolute goal fest akin to the Keith Hill 'No Fear' days.
Makes sense why so many authorities are looking into Morton House etc
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 07:14 - Oct 21 with 5395 views
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 22:44 - Oct 20 by Marjorie_Plane
Oooooh did I get a mention. I'll tell Freda.
Yes luvvy, Coleman is Andrew Curran's mothers maiden name. There was also some gossip at Morrisons about Andrew's wife's family... the Green clan. Now they are from Swindon and are a roofing family. I'm sure Curran told some small minded people early doors that he made his money in the roofing business - well Coiln Green did and Andrew jumped on for the ride. He also told a 'nancy boy' or two he had a cardboard exporting company at Tilbury. Lies I'm afraid, all lies.
Who introduced Matthew Southall to Charlton?
If they were exporting from Tilbury, you'd think they would be using Tilbury Docks.
Just had a quick google of Tilbury docks over a bowl of Cheerios, & found these (it looks like a BUSY place):
Well there you go HullDale... anywhere near Hessle?
I think Curran really underestimated us when he first appeared and said he'd made his money in roofing, he hasn't. Then he said he had over 200 properties, he hasn't and then he claimed his company exports cardboard and tubing and its based in Tilbury. I spoke to Curran Packaging Ltd, a long time ago and they don't know who Andrew Curran is.
I was chatting to Freda over a cuppa and our view is that Curran & Rose didn't want Dale for cleaning money. They wanted Dale to assert strip or laden with debt. John McGreal and his backroom staff would have been appointed Manager on megabucks $$$$ and Taylor Curran would have been our first record breaking transfer, ££££££ - He would have been the highest paid the player in our history. All new staff would have had top of the range motors, massive wages and Morton House's management and consultation fee's would have run into seven figures. Within 2 seasons, Curran & Rose would have recouped the money they paid for their shares and more and the Dale would have been relegated and laden with debt. The EFL attract a lot of criticism, but In the lower leagues, there is no EFL, there is no protection. Within four or five seasons Spotland would have been Gigg Lane esque and the administrators asking for the highest bidder or Rose Homes Developments.
There is a subterranean and hierarchical group of evil that are constantly circling, waiting and watching. The conduit to this group of Bassini's, Dale, Day, Curran, Rose, Oyston, Southall and so on, is Alexander Jarvis. There is a lot of money to be had inflicting misery on people and this group thrive on it.
Freda and I may be wrong of course. Lets hope we never find out.
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 08:26 - Oct 21 by Marjorie_Plane
Well there you go HullDale... anywhere near Hessle?
I think Curran really underestimated us when he first appeared and said he'd made his money in roofing, he hasn't. Then he said he had over 200 properties, he hasn't and then he claimed his company exports cardboard and tubing and its based in Tilbury. I spoke to Curran Packaging Ltd, a long time ago and they don't know who Andrew Curran is.
I was chatting to Freda over a cuppa and our view is that Curran & Rose didn't want Dale for cleaning money. They wanted Dale to assert strip or laden with debt. John McGreal and his backroom staff would have been appointed Manager on megabucks $$$$ and Taylor Curran would have been our first record breaking transfer, ££££££ - He would have been the highest paid the player in our history. All new staff would have had top of the range motors, massive wages and Morton House's management and consultation fee's would have run into seven figures. Within 2 seasons, Curran & Rose would have recouped the money they paid for their shares and more and the Dale would have been relegated and laden with debt. The EFL attract a lot of criticism, but In the lower leagues, there is no EFL, there is no protection. Within four or five seasons Spotland would have been Gigg Lane esque and the administrators asking for the highest bidder or Rose Homes Developments.
There is a subterranean and hierarchical group of evil that are constantly circling, waiting and watching. The conduit to this group of Bassini's, Dale, Day, Curran, Rose, Oyston, Southall and so on, is Alexander Jarvis. There is a lot of money to be had inflicting misery on people and this group thrive on it.
Freda and I may be wrong of course. Lets hope we never find out.
Discussing megabucks in Starbucks or how much it nearly cost in Costa?
Or was it Rose-y Lee you were supping (with a slosh of something to fortify)?
Thank goodness it looks like there is going to be a happy ending in our case, in no small part to you and Freda putting the world to rights. More power to your elbow and keep supping.
Given the quantities of drugs now being found by police operations, its obvious that the quantities being imported must be huge, I believe there is more cocain being used in London than the whole of the rest of Europe. And Bristol is just behind London! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/record-haul-cocaine-seized-sailboat-off-por So is it possible that we have stumbled upon a network of companies and people that is a small part of a much bigger operation? We have seen the complex web of dissolved companies associated with Bury's last owner, a look through companies house associations throws up lots of others with similar multiple company involvements, often opened and closed within months before accounts are required to be submitted. Imagine if the bit we know about is multiplied buy 1000s, each moving a few £m per year through their companies, one to another to hide the revenue from tons of illegal drugs, with each movement of the cash resulting in the company Directors skimming off a percentage. "Cash" businesess would be an obvious link in such a chain, better still, businesses that offer finance, or can convert money into a saleable asset such as houses or cars or football grounds and training facilities or maybe players.
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 12:52 - Oct 21 with 4872 views
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 12:44 - Oct 21 by 49thseason
Given the quantities of drugs now being found by police operations, its obvious that the quantities being imported must be huge, I believe there is more cocain being used in London than the whole of the rest of Europe. And Bristol is just behind London! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/record-haul-cocaine-seized-sailboat-off-por So is it possible that we have stumbled upon a network of companies and people that is a small part of a much bigger operation? We have seen the complex web of dissolved companies associated with Bury's last owner, a look through companies house associations throws up lots of others with similar multiple company involvements, often opened and closed within months before accounts are required to be submitted. Imagine if the bit we know about is multiplied buy 1000s, each moving a few £m per year through their companies, one to another to hide the revenue from tons of illegal drugs, with each movement of the cash resulting in the company Directors skimming off a percentage. "Cash" businesess would be an obvious link in such a chain, better still, businesses that offer finance, or can convert money into a saleable asset such as houses or cars or football grounds and training facilities or maybe players.
That would certainly explain why Rose & Curran went running (some may say hiding!) once the EFL announced they were investigating them further... especially if the other agencies we believe are involved are doing their own digging too.
The link to Tilsbury Docks seems too random to us, although it could just be a coincidence.
Imagine, though, if by their involvement in Morton House & Dale, Curran / Rose / Safouane / Courtnell have shone a huge light onto their own dealings (as well as those of the linked Green family). A quick google of the names / stories linked with those names suggests you may not want to be the person / people involved in selling them the dream of football ownership for nefarious means.
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 12:44 - Oct 21 by 49thseason
Given the quantities of drugs now being found by police operations, its obvious that the quantities being imported must be huge, I believe there is more cocain being used in London than the whole of the rest of Europe. And Bristol is just behind London! https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/record-haul-cocaine-seized-sailboat-off-por So is it possible that we have stumbled upon a network of companies and people that is a small part of a much bigger operation? We have seen the complex web of dissolved companies associated with Bury's last owner, a look through companies house associations throws up lots of others with similar multiple company involvements, often opened and closed within months before accounts are required to be submitted. Imagine if the bit we know about is multiplied buy 1000s, each moving a few £m per year through their companies, one to another to hide the revenue from tons of illegal drugs, with each movement of the cash resulting in the company Directors skimming off a percentage. "Cash" businesess would be an obvious link in such a chain, better still, businesses that offer finance, or can convert money into a saleable asset such as houses or cars or football grounds and training facilities or maybe players.
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 13:20 - Oct 21 by D_Alien
Or motor traders... especially 'high end'
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It probably filters down to quite low levels , which makes you wonder about all those Mercs and Audis that seem to race about on our roads these days, and those take aways that are open all hours with no obvious customers.
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 17:09 - Oct 21 with 4455 views
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 14:46 - Oct 21 by 49thseason
It probably filters down to quite low levels , which makes you wonder about all those Mercs and Audis that seem to race about on our roads these days, and those take aways that are open all hours with no obvious customers.
I was thinking about those who have relatives in Worksop
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 17:09 - Oct 21 by D_Alien
I was thinking about those who have relatives in Worksop
I know. I was just pointing out there are probably huge numbers of people and businesses involved, the Curran / Rose Clan is probably just one of many, it just happens to be the one that locked horns with RAFC and its fans, we weren't the first and probably won't be the last club to be targeted.
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Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 19:57 - Oct 21 with 4242 views
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 03:09 - Oct 21 by James1980
Wouldn't buying a football club be part of the integration stage of money laundering?
I had to be well up on money laundering when I was with HSBC (not that they did not get busted and fined for doing it like many financial institutions) and in effect placement, layering and integration are often happening all at once. Putting it simply with basic examples:
Placement - the act of getting illicit funds to a seemingly legitimate source. Eg you buy a rolls Royce for £100k
Layering - the act of making the funds appear genuine, trade in Rolls Royce for 2 say 2 Lexus, from a different dealer, sorn one and run the other, swap one with a friend for a vintage merc, sell it to a dealer and insist on being paid by cheque or bank draft, in effect moving the assets about as much as you can to attempt to hide the initial source of funds or at least make the funds paid out to a major institution such as a bank or main dealer.
Pay the cheque into your bank and use it as you wish with the hope it will appear clean. It maybe be used again to buy something else if your very cautious and want to create even more distance from the original source. The more it is done the harder it is to track but doing it a lot will draw the notice of the authorities.
In all honesty it’s normally done numerous times and can be for much smaller purchases, that makes it harder to trace. Normally there are warning systems Thant catch them out.
I have had to report people a few times (look at the sentences for tipping off and failing to report!) but you never find out what happened (best not to know). If this has been going on with regard to the share purchases, I would say they are in very deep shit. Once it’s noticed or suspected/reported you have effectively lost the reason 99% of those doing it get away with it, remaining anonymous to the authorities!
Every Team Needs A John Ryan - The Winger Who's a Ringer!!!!!
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 19:57 - Oct 21 by Thacks_Rabbits
I had to be well up on money laundering when I was with HSBC (not that they did not get busted and fined for doing it like many financial institutions) and in effect placement, layering and integration are often happening all at once. Putting it simply with basic examples:
Placement - the act of getting illicit funds to a seemingly legitimate source. Eg you buy a rolls Royce for £100k
Layering - the act of making the funds appear genuine, trade in Rolls Royce for 2 say 2 Lexus, from a different dealer, sorn one and run the other, swap one with a friend for a vintage merc, sell it to a dealer and insist on being paid by cheque or bank draft, in effect moving the assets about as much as you can to attempt to hide the initial source of funds or at least make the funds paid out to a major institution such as a bank or main dealer.
Pay the cheque into your bank and use it as you wish with the hope it will appear clean. It maybe be used again to buy something else if your very cautious and want to create even more distance from the original source. The more it is done the harder it is to track but doing it a lot will draw the notice of the authorities.
In all honesty it’s normally done numerous times and can be for much smaller purchases, that makes it harder to trace. Normally there are warning systems Thant catch them out.
I have had to report people a few times (look at the sentences for tipping off and failing to report!) but you never find out what happened (best not to know). If this has been going on with regard to the share purchases, I would say they are in very deep shit. Once it’s noticed or suspected/reported you have effectively lost the reason 99% of those doing it get away with it, remaining anonymous to the authorities!
Now this makes me think the real money behind this whole takeover attempt hasn't come from Andy, Darrel, Denise or Faical. But persons 'linked' to them but not linked to them through a direct or indirect business association that can be easily found on Companies House.
'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 20:47 - Oct 21 by James1980
Now this makes me think the real money behind this whole takeover attempt hasn't come from Andy, Darrel, Denise or Faical. But persons 'linked' to them but not linked to them through a direct or indirect business association that can be easily found on Companies House.
I would doubt that the actual shares are being used as a money laundering vehicle, as normally you have to buy an asset that is easy to liquidate, such as say Vodafone shares which sell constantly and have huge demand. It is possible they have been bought with the view to shifting them on very quickly to another party. but it goes against every principle of money laundering as it’s a high profile purchase and very noticeable in the public domain, as well as the efl test which would be likely to highlight the purchase.
I would be more inclined to think this is an attempt to make a profit and asset strip the club using funds that are clean, or appear to be. Of course that is why the source of funds investigation is vital, as it is there to protect both the seller and buyer, as I no way is it possible to say the purchase is with laundered funds, that’s for the authorities to investigate.
Every Team Needs A John Ryan - The Winger Who's a Ringer!!!!!
Maybe he'll get that in before the New Year but when he does, we will be watching!
His ex co-director Denise Valerie Courtnell resigned from Coleman on 17 April 2020. However she is still listed as the sole director of Total Group Serv Ltd.
Morton House's Directors - FAICAL SAFOUANE on 11:17 - Dec 28 by BigKindo
His ex co-director Denise Valerie Courtnell resigned from Coleman on 17 April 2020. However she is still listed as the sole director of Total Group Serv Ltd.
Both companies were incorporated on the same date 20 March 2020 and both are now flagged up as having overdue accounts.
Great spot, Big Kindo.
Coleman is also the maiden name of Andy Curran's mother derived by the fantastic ancestry.com following the "loss" of Alexander Jarvis' laptop whilst he was working against the club during the Summer.
Denise Valarie Courtnell is also a blood relative of the Curran family. Darrell Rose is also a blood relative of the Courtnell family.
Always impressive when someone in their late 70's is still active and working as a Director of so many Companies House listed entities.
Perhaps she has also been distracted by Christmas in not remembering to file her accounts on time.
George Bernard Shaw had it right:
"He who can does; he who cannot, teaches."
https://www.visittheusa.co.uk/
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