| Fans Forum 17:35 - Aug 5 with 3922 views | 442Dale | Now the Ratcliffe is open again, will a date be confirmed for this? It’s a part of the summer every year and a good opportunity for the new manager to talk directly to supporters. Would contact the Trust to follow this up, but no longer a member. Presumably there are people involved or are members who could? |  |
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| Fans Forum on 18:01 - Aug 5 with 3854 views | tony_roch975 | The Trust say "had a meeting with Laura today and advised that the first Fans Forum of the season will be announced within the next couple of weeks" |  |
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| Fans Forum on 18:11 - Aug 5 with 3811 views | Yorkshire_Dale | The Dale Trust is missing out on £££££££ of subscriptions. Lapsed members are keen to get back involved particularly as the Dale Feelgood Factor is stll on a high. |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 19:25 - Aug 5 with 3637 views | EllDale | My Trust subscription seems to have been renewed automatically by PayPal. Must have granted permission at some stage in the past! |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 21:13 - Aug 5 with 3450 views | 442Dale |
| Fans Forum on 18:11 - Aug 5 by Yorkshire_Dale | The Dale Trust is missing out on £££££££ of subscriptions. Lapsed members are keen to get back involved particularly as the Dale Feelgood Factor is stll on a high. |
How do you mean? The question was about finding out whether there will be a Forum and included how any details could be established. Thanks to TonyRoch for the info. |  |
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| Fans Forum on 21:43 - Aug 5 with 3368 views | isitme |
| Fans Forum on 18:11 - Aug 5 by Yorkshire_Dale | The Dale Trust is missing out on £££££££ of subscriptions. Lapsed members are keen to get back involved particularly as the Dale Feelgood Factor is stll on a high. |
It is probably missing out on income from lapsed members. I am not sure how keen these former members are to sign back up. It seems with the stability brought by the Ogdens and the formation of the CAB that it lacks a raison d’être. [Post edited 6 Aug 7:16]
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| Fans Forum on 22:04 - Aug 5 with 3320 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Fans Forum on 21:43 - Aug 5 by isitme | It is probably missing out on income from lapsed members. I am not sure how keen these former members are to sign back up. It seems with the stability brought by the Ogdens and the formation of the CAB that it lacks a raison d’être. [Post edited 6 Aug 7:16]
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You might be right about the Trust now having no meaning or 'reason to be" but it did good deeds in the past and was well supported even just as a fund raiser. Is this it's death knell? Is there no longer any will there? |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 22:04 - Aug 5 with 3319 views | TVOS1907 |
| Fans Forum on 18:11 - Aug 5 by Yorkshire_Dale | The Dale Trust is missing out on £££££££ of subscriptions. Lapsed members are keen to get back involved particularly as the Dale Feelgood Factor is stll on a high. |
I'm not sure either of those things is true, unless you've got evidence to the contrary. |  |
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| Fans Forum on 00:27 - Aug 6 with 3134 views | Sandyman | Poor communication, and the anti-democratic fiasco around last years members request for an EGM and its consequences have caused numerous Dale Trust members to resign or not renew. There was a GDPR issue as well. The Dale Trust has played a good role over the years, particularly during the Trust convened RAFC EGM of 2021, and fighting the consequent hostile takeover attempt, when membership figures were at record levels. Maybe evolution has resulted in CAB and the 1907 group leading the way in fan representation rather than Dale Trust, who still do a good job organising away travel. [Post edited 6 Aug 0:33]
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| Fans Forum on 07:18 - Aug 6 with 2950 views | isitme |
| Fans Forum on 00:27 - Aug 6 by Sandyman | Poor communication, and the anti-democratic fiasco around last years members request for an EGM and its consequences have caused numerous Dale Trust members to resign or not renew. There was a GDPR issue as well. The Dale Trust has played a good role over the years, particularly during the Trust convened RAFC EGM of 2021, and fighting the consequent hostile takeover attempt, when membership figures were at record levels. Maybe evolution has resulted in CAB and the 1907 group leading the way in fan representation rather than Dale Trust, who still do a good job organising away travel. [Post edited 6 Aug 0:33]
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You make an excellent point about the travel. It is a good facility for those who want to use it and Emma works really hard organising it. |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 08:50 - Aug 6 with 2811 views | tony_roch975 |
| Fans Forum on 00:27 - Aug 6 by Sandyman | Poor communication, and the anti-democratic fiasco around last years members request for an EGM and its consequences have caused numerous Dale Trust members to resign or not renew. There was a GDPR issue as well. The Dale Trust has played a good role over the years, particularly during the Trust convened RAFC EGM of 2021, and fighting the consequent hostile takeover attempt, when membership figures were at record levels. Maybe evolution has resulted in CAB and the 1907 group leading the way in fan representation rather than Dale Trust, who still do a good job organising away travel. [Post edited 6 Aug 0:33]
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You may well be right about the recent loss of relevance and the Dale1907 group does seem to be doing some of the Trust's role but I don't think that group or the CAB 'represents' fans - neither are membership organisations, neither are elected by fans; indeed the CAB was chosen by the Club so The Trust will still be needed. I think it needs to reinvigorate its relevance so it can be seen as the natural home for the Golden Share. |  |
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| Fans Forum on 09:19 - Aug 6 with 2760 views | 49thseason |
| Fans Forum on 08:50 - Aug 6 by tony_roch975 | You may well be right about the recent loss of relevance and the Dale1907 group does seem to be doing some of the Trust's role but I don't think that group or the CAB 'represents' fans - neither are membership organisations, neither are elected by fans; indeed the CAB was chosen by the Club so The Trust will still be needed. I think it needs to reinvigorate its relevance so it can be seen as the natural home for the Golden Share. |
Agreed, the Trust has, in my opinion, lost its raison d' etre, but as you say it needs to find a new role for itself, being the keeper of the golden share and organiser of buses simply isnt sufficient to sustain it. I wonder if they would be more relevant if it could work closer to the Community Trust and become the " fans in the community" vehicle? Perhaps tidying up the area around the club, working with people in the streets nearby to bring them closer to the club? Rather like the Japanese fans clean up the stadium after a match? Running a youth club for younger fans? Liasing with local businesses and youth groups... School visits, Cubs...Guides, OAP 's, a club choir, coffee mornings..etc etc...Turning the club into a much bigger / busier operation outside the normal working hours.... |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 10:10 - Aug 6 with 2693 views | Dalenet |
| Fans Forum on 08:50 - Aug 6 by tony_roch975 | You may well be right about the recent loss of relevance and the Dale1907 group does seem to be doing some of the Trust's role but I don't think that group or the CAB 'represents' fans - neither are membership organisations, neither are elected by fans; indeed the CAB was chosen by the Club so The Trust will still be needed. I think it needs to reinvigorate its relevance so it can be seen as the natural home for the Golden Share. |
One day we will need the Trust to step in and be the voice of reason. Whether next year or in 25 years time. For it to be relevant to fans it needs to be clear on its purpose. I see it as anonymous now and don't have a clue on the vision, the purpose or who leads it. Sad really as lots of people have dedicated an enormous amount of time for decades. |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 10:17 - Aug 6 with 2675 views | isitme |
| Fans Forum on 10:10 - Aug 6 by Dalenet | One day we will need the Trust to step in and be the voice of reason. Whether next year or in 25 years time. For it to be relevant to fans it needs to be clear on its purpose. I see it as anonymous now and don't have a clue on the vision, the purpose or who leads it. Sad really as lots of people have dedicated an enormous amount of time for decades. |
I have no idea who is running it now but I think they are suffering from being compared to a number of exceptional chairman who operated in much more trying times. The likes of Col and Judd really did an outstanding job. |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 10:46 - Aug 6 with 2631 views | 14bowlers |
| Fans Forum on 09:19 - Aug 6 by 49thseason | Agreed, the Trust has, in my opinion, lost its raison d' etre, but as you say it needs to find a new role for itself, being the keeper of the golden share and organiser of buses simply isnt sufficient to sustain it. I wonder if they would be more relevant if it could work closer to the Community Trust and become the " fans in the community" vehicle? Perhaps tidying up the area around the club, working with people in the streets nearby to bring them closer to the club? Rather like the Japanese fans clean up the stadium after a match? Running a youth club for younger fans? Liasing with local businesses and youth groups... School visits, Cubs...Guides, OAP 's, a club choir, coffee mornings..etc etc...Turning the club into a much bigger / busier operation outside the normal working hours.... |
In 1960 there was a junior supportes club, and one of the tasks was to clean up the terraces after the match on a Saturday. [ I have a photo showing a small group of us on clean up duty]. Just a thought. Junior supporters club maybe ? |  | |  |
| Fans Forum on 13:44 - Aug 6 with 2397 views | 49thseason |
| Fans Forum on 10:46 - Aug 6 by 14bowlers | In 1960 there was a junior supportes club, and one of the tasks was to clean up the terraces after the match on a Saturday. [ I have a photo showing a small group of us on clean up duty]. Just a thought. Junior supporters club maybe ? |
A good first step I would have thought... |  | |  |
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