| Furs leaving on 14:52 - Nov 26 with 3719 views | TheChef |
| Furs leaving on 14:45 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Happy workplaces generally don't leak too much. [Post edited 26 Nov 16:11]
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Indeed.
Although I thought I read the club agreed for WLS to publish the article? Or did I imagine that. [Post edited 26 Nov 15:07]
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| Furs leaving on 15:47 - Nov 26 with 3535 views | kensalriser |
| Furs leaving on 13:50 - Nov 26 by QPR_Jim |
Being pedantic but I thought the compensation we received was basically getting most of the money we'd already paid him to leave back, rather than a "win" as Sam put it.
On a separate note, I like having people around the place who know the club, respect our history and show loyalty to us. I think we do better generally when we have people like that around the place because they make an effort and get the best out of other players. I don't think it's a coincidence that having those kind of characters around the place (Gallen,Bircham,Cook) causes other players (like Furlong and Ainsworth) who they played with to become supporters of the club as well. Not sure I'm happy with people like that being removed from the club on the whim of a group of people who'd probably walk away as soon as a better offer came calling, without a second thought for QPR. |
The thing about those people who know the club is that their loyalty is to the club, not the club's regime. They may have popularity and power bases that could present a challenge, so they need to be purged.
We saw all this happen during the Paladini and Briatore era. [Post edited 26 Nov 16:28]
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| Furs leaving on 16:02 - Nov 26 with 3457 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Furs leaving on 14:45 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Happy workplaces generally don't leak too much. [Post edited 26 Nov 16:11]
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What a nonsense sweeping statement that is.
I am in no way referring to this specific incident but that is just garbage. Good places to work still have unhappy people. It only takes one but there usually is at least one. |  |
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| Furs leaving on 16:05 - Nov 26 with 3441 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Furs leaving on 16:02 - Nov 26 by CroydonCaptJack |
What a nonsense sweeping statement that is.
I am in no way referring to this specific incident but that is just garbage. Good places to work still have unhappy people. It only takes one but there usually is at least one. |
Ok, don't let it ruin your evening. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 16:25 - Nov 26 with 3344 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Furs leaving on 16:05 - Nov 26 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Ok, don't let it ruin your evening. |
Too late Baz.
Hopefully Rangers will reverse it later though. | |
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| Furs leaving on 17:17 - Nov 26 with 3208 views | QPROslo |
Hard to understand this. Furlong like Marti, looks like he's doing a very good job and he is well respected as well. His teams are apparently well coached with fluid formations Only a few months since we won the Premier League Cup and players from his teams have and are playing for the first team. What is the problem? |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 17:33 - Nov 26 with 3119 views | DeanoMD |
Appalling decision. | | | |
| Furs leaving on 17:39 - Nov 26 with 3069 views | KensalT |
| Furs leaving on 10:49 - Nov 26 by QPRSam |
Thank you
I'm not saying it's fake news but it's obvious that WLS are prone to employing clickbait and dramatised headlines for clicks just like they did when they completely mischaracterised Julien Stephan's comments after the Southampton game
I'd hope the club would clarify what has happened in an official statement but expecting that inside 24 hours of a published leak I think is a bit ridiculous and an extreme oversimplifying of the situation. This isn't a Sunday league team dropping someone, there's legal obstacles, contracts
Also not sure what you want the club to do about Kolli's fathers' instagram posts or a salty ex players' comments in a program  I think there's more pressing issues at a football club than this |
It's always easy to attack the messenger.
WLS might be guilty of employing the occasional bit of clickbait but it's the exception rather than the rule and when you look at the rate local news publications have been folding in the UK in recent years then it is clearly becoming a difficult market to survive in and we're very lucky to have WLS.
My rule of thumb with WLS is very simple:
If an article has David McIntyre's name on it (and he doesn't put his name to everything QPR-related on there) then I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt for being well sourced and thoroughly researched before it gets printed.
DM does put his name to this article.
So I trust it. Simple soul that I am!
The timing of this decision to fire Furs is the really interesting thing for me.
Mid-season is very strange timing. Especially for a coach who brought in a trophy only a few months ago.
My suspicion (and I am in no way 'ITK' or connected at the club) is that they wanted to cut Furs loose last summer.
But they couldn't do that when the memory of the DS trophy triumph is still fresh in the mind.
So they wait for the dust to settle. Release some of that trophy winning squad. And keep 'Furs boys' under wraps for a bit. Then when everything has calmed down it's thanks for everything and 'Laters!'
Now that could just be my overactive imagination working overtime. And there is certainly no evidence to prove it. But when the club runs such a restrictive communications policy it's inevitable that people might start speculating for themselves and perhaps reaching conclusions that are wrong.
But what I will say now is that if Nourry in future starts wallowing in the reflected glory of that DS success without giving Furs his fair due for developing those players and bringing in that trophy then that will be a very bad look from where I'm sitting.
Now where did I leave my tin foil hat............ | | | |
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| Furs leaving on 17:56 - Nov 26 with 2996 views | mart_Goblin |
| Furs leaving on 13:00 - Nov 26 by QPRSam |
Pretty much my point earlier which I understand is an unpopular take as there's a 23x upvoted post 2 hours after the article asking why the club haven't already released a full statement, tribute, biographical piece. I think blame lies with whoever was involved in leaking the story to WLS with this |
That’s a silly last statement .
Someone had messsaged me over a week ago that he’d been ‘relieved of his duties’.
I then saw someone post on Friday on the DS v Burnley match thread ‘in Furs we trust’ and wondered if what i’d heard was false. Watching the clip in that thread however , there was no sign of him on the bench .
But my point being ,that if I had heard, then how many people in the club , players , colleagues , friends or family outside the club knew ? It would have been difficult for WLS to NOT find out !
Not sure how many times Hunterhoop has to mention on here about people talking to each other in football? Some , including and especially the current CEO simply fail to grasp that notion. And he doesn’t because he has no clue how clubs , teams , dressing rooms, or the respect or loyalty that resides within them, actually work. . |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:59 - Nov 26 with 2969 views | numptydumpty |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:21 - Nov 25 by numptydumpty |
He has tried his best for us over many years but its not as if the youth system has worked that well over many many years. Surely a piece thanking Furs will be posted.
Like others have said this kind of thing happens, all the time, when new guys coming in at the top and have their own ways of working and bringing in their own people
There have been signs of progress, so cant say as yet whether this is good or bad. Two years down the line and lets see where we are.
The world of football is the same as any other organisations, and new sweeps brought in to hopefully improve things further. No room for sentiments anymore. If it works all well and good, obviously done with the beliefs a replacement could do better.
Comme Ci, Comme Ca !!!
Such is life !!! [Post edited 25 Nov 15:50]
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BTW in response to several negative votes on this post of mine, I didn't say i agreed with the decision in any way. I dont agree with it.
It's just that I am not surprised, as this kind of thing happens everywhere and its also very rare people are thanked for their service and hard work.
Been escorted off the premises when was made redundant in one role and had been doing my job required. It's a difficult thing to deal with and was just saying it happens everywhere these days and not just in football, but in football this is so common.
Maybe the next guy may do better. We will see. [Post edited 26 Nov 18:00]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:30 - Nov 26 with 2856 views | TK1 |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 17:59 - Nov 26 by numptydumpty |
BTW in response to several negative votes on this post of mine, I didn't say i agreed with the decision in any way. I dont agree with it.
It's just that I am not surprised, as this kind of thing happens everywhere and its also very rare people are thanked for their service and hard work.
Been escorted off the premises when was made redundant in one role and had been doing my job required. It's a difficult thing to deal with and was just saying it happens everywhere these days and not just in football, but in football this is so common.
Maybe the next guy may do better. We will see. [Post edited 26 Nov 18:00]
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I reckon the downvotes were more due to the incredibly tone-deaf nature of your post. For example:
"He has tried his best for us over many years but its not as if the youth system has worked that well over many many years."
A) The guy is not in charge of the youth system. He's a coach who has worked his way successfully up through the age groups, producing players at each stage.
B) He's been coaching the U23s for four years and in that time has won as many trophies (one, last year) as all the other coaches combined in the last 40.
C) Two of his recent graduates played for the first team on Saturday.
D) He's Paul Furlong. Not just some bloke to "be escorted off the premises".
Maybe you could send your original post to the club, see if they can run it through AI for a tribute. End it with: Christian Nourry thanked Furlong for his five years as a player, his promotion-winning goals, his 12 years as a trophy-winning, loyal and respected coach who helped produced the likes of Eze and Kolli, but added "comme ci, comme ca!" | | | |
| Furs leaving on 19:11 - Nov 26 with 2735 views | ytt28 |
| Furs leaving on 12:57 - Nov 26 by Northernr |
A great point mate. We're very quick to hammer people like Willock. Get the snake emojis out. Loyalty when it suits us.
This isn't some jobbing youth team coach we're talking about here. It's Paul Furlong.
Honestly, the amount of people who are willing to shill for this, and be fine with it astounds me. |
It happens when the people do not understand our club | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 19:38 - Nov 26 with 2634 views | numptydumpty |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:30 - Nov 26 by TK1 |
I reckon the downvotes were more due to the incredibly tone-deaf nature of your post. For example:
"He has tried his best for us over many years but its not as if the youth system has worked that well over many many years."
A) The guy is not in charge of the youth system. He's a coach who has worked his way successfully up through the age groups, producing players at each stage.
B) He's been coaching the U23s for four years and in that time has won as many trophies (one, last year) as all the other coaches combined in the last 40.
C) Two of his recent graduates played for the first team on Saturday.
D) He's Paul Furlong. Not just some bloke to "be escorted off the premises".
Maybe you could send your original post to the club, see if they can run it through AI for a tribute. End it with: Christian Nourry thanked Furlong for his five years as a player, his promotion-winning goals, his 12 years as a trophy-winning, loyal and respected coach who helped produced the likes of Eze and Kolli, but added "comme ci, comme ca!" |
i supported Les and thought he was very harshly treated and unfairly, but many were super critical of les on here, calling him Evil Les.
Furlong has been a great servant of the club. Just compared it to the way business is done in football and everywhere else, when a new man comes in at the top, its not something i agreed with in anyways.
Just said it happens.
Hence the comment
"Such is life"
"Peace be with you and all who sail in you."
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:48 - Nov 26 with 2498 views | Hunterhoop |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:29 - Nov 26 by KensalT |
Nourry hasn't just turned up this week.
He has been CEO here for over a year and was mooching around in the background for a long time before that.
And during Nourry's time at the top Furlong delivered a trophy and has seen several of his youngsters progress into the first team - something the club has seemed keen to take credit for.
Whatever the reasons for Furlong being moved on I don't think you can put it down to a new broom being in charge. |
Been in the role 2 years in Jan, plus a year behind the scenes. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:20 - Nov 27 with 1946 views | numptydumpty |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:29 - Nov 26 by KensalT |
Nourry hasn't just turned up this week.
He has been CEO here for over a year and was mooching around in the background for a long time before that.
And during Nourry's time at the top Furlong delivered a trophy and has seen several of his youngsters progress into the first team - something the club has seemed keen to take credit for.
Whatever the reasons for Furlong being moved on I don't think you can put it down to a new broom being in charge. |
Whys he been sacked then, if its not Nourry flexing his muscles... | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:45 - Nov 27 with 1860 views | QPR_Jim |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:20 - Nov 27 by numptydumpty |
Whys he been sacked then, if its not Nourry flexing his muscles... |
I imagine it was similar to the start of Hot Fuzz "You've Been Making Us All Look Bad". Going around winning things, doesn't he know this is a project? |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 22:56 - Nov 27 with 1822 views | wombat |
| Furs leaving on 17:17 - Nov 26 by QPROslo |
Hard to understand this. Furlong like Marti, looks like he's doing a very good job and he is well respected as well. His teams are apparently well coached with fluid formations Only a few months since we won the Premier League Cup and players from his teams have and are playing for the first team. What is the problem? |
I was told the possible explanation was the club might want to go in a different direction 1
Ummm what diff direction can a coach of a dev squad go ? Win the cup yep
Get young players ready to step up yep
Not sure how u can change direction in that role what ever way u look at it ,
Is it possible his departure is linked to other issues going on behind the scenes at the club and. Maybe furs has stood up and said hang on I’m not having. This ? Resulting in he being surplus to requiememts |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 10:08 - Nov 28 with 1500 views | KensalT |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 22:20 - Nov 27 by numptydumpty |
Whys he been sacked then, if its not Nourry flexing his muscles... |
I don't claim to know why Furlong is leaving.
My point was that Nourry has been here a while now and the "new broom" bringing his own people in didn't seem right.
But having said that, I took another look at the WLS piece and this is the crucial bit:
"Earlier this year, Rangers’ youngsters won the Premier League Cup under Furlong, beating Brentford in the final.
Since then there have been discussions about his future role, and changes to the development structure, with Anthony Hayes appointed as methodology manager, focusing on the Under-17 to Under-21 age groups."
Which could be read as Furlong being made redundant rather than sacked (if his role disappeared as part of these changes to the development structure.)
So on balance you're probably right. This is just Nourry growing his power base at the club and bringing in more of his own people.
The fact Anthony Hayes joined us last summer as Head of Methodology (U17-21) still makes me think the plan was to move Furlong on last summer but that pesky trophy winning business got in the way.
Glancing at Hayes' LinkedIn page he seems to have gone straight from getting his degree into coaching. That doesn't mean he isn't a good coach, just that he's another one who's background is in theory rather than having done the hard yards on the pitch like Furs.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-hayes-bb443a63/
There's nothing wrong with a bit of theory here and there but for professional sport I think you need to retain some hard earned playing experience within the coaching structure and Nourry seems to be taking that away (apart from Steve Bould!)
Lets hope all these methodologists come good.
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| Furs leaving on 17:21 - Nov 28 with 1181 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Cheers for sharing.
“But to progress as a club, difficult decisions are often necessary"
I mean, this means it wasn't his decision right? Otherwise his words are either the mark of a gentleman reluctant to injure the club, someone who came to a settlement, or both.
My money is on both. Good luck to him. | | | |
| Furs leaving on 17:32 - Nov 28 with 1106 views | CroydonCaptJack |
The statement doesn't give much away really does it. Somme nice stuff in there from PF and CN. | |
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| Furs leaving on 17:40 - Nov 28 with 1062 views | Northernr |
5pm on a Friday of course the traditional time for putting out press releases about things you're really proud about. |  | | |
| Furs leaving on 17:44 - Nov 28 with 1036 views | bosh67 |
I think the question we all have is why? Why is an enormously successful and popular person moving on? |  |
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| Furs leaving on 17:46 - Nov 28 with 1022 views | mart_Goblin |
If I was Stéphan I’d be very afraid if another bad run crops up , which it inevitably will. | | | |
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