| If you vote Labour 09:59 - Apr 28 with 6022 views | perchrockjack |
You are poor
Working class
Live in social housing
Live from hand to mouth
Are good
Benevolent
Peaceful
Hate Israel
Or Jews
Drink beer not wine
White bread not brown
Sauce not ketchup
Holiday in Benidorm
Get pissed
Eat kebabs
Your wife wears Primark bras |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 23:27 - May 10 with 869 views | Fireboy |
| If you vote Labour on 23:20 - May 10 by rock1n |
Well yes, duh of course they do.
But it always goes back to the NHS, always their focal point.
24 hrs to save pretty much every election. PRIVATISATION, CUTS
WAHHHHHHHH |
You can tell you havent had the need to use the NHS
You have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER do you
The NHS is what makes us great
But there no telling you as you are obviously happy in your bubble | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 23:41 - May 10 with 856 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| If you vote Labour on 21:58 - May 10 by NeathJack |
Indeed they can, as long as they are prepared to rack up a huge amount of debt. |
Yes there will be a lot of debt. However it is debt that is made repayable in a very fair manner. Nine percent of anything you earn over £21,000 annually. It isn't the sort of debt that loses you your house or prevents you from putting food on the table for your family.
How many billions would it cost to send every adult to university for free? What would you cut to find that extra money? |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 23:47 - May 10 with 852 views | rock1n |
| If you vote Labour on 23:41 - May 10 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Yes there will be a lot of debt. However it is debt that is made repayable in a very fair manner. Nine percent of anything you earn over £21,000 annually. It isn't the sort of debt that loses you your house or prevents you from putting food on the table for your family.
How many billions would it cost to send every adult to university for free? What would you cut to find that extra money? |
That's what they can't seem to comprehend.
If you change the system to general taxation that means those that didn't go to Uni will be paying for those that did and if we'll all pay more tax so they'll still pay.
It is designed to help those who don't find lucrative employment and those that do benefited. So in conclusion, what is the problem? |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 23:48 - May 10 with 851 views | rock1n |
| If you vote Labour on 23:27 - May 10 by Fireboy |
You can tell you havent had the need to use the NHS
You have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER do you
The NHS is what makes us great
But there no telling you as you are obviously happy in your bubble |
Yes because that's just what I said isn't it?
Engage your brain next time son, I sure as Hell care about healthcare. I find your post offensive.
I talked about Labour's obsession with NHS, at no point did I say healthcare doesn't matter. | |
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| If you vote Labour on 00:02 - May 11 with 823 views | rock1n |
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| If you vote Labour on 00:05 - May 11 with 813 views | Fireboy |
| If you vote Labour on 23:48 - May 10 by rock1n |
Yes because that's just what I said isn't it?
Engage your brain next time son, I sure as Hell care about healthcare. I find your post offensive.
I talked about Labour's obsession with NHS, at no point did I say healthcare doesn't matter. |
So what are you saying then SON?
You care about healthcare? Private healthcare or the NHS?
Because you seem to be slating labours obsession with the NHS and privitisation
And btw I always engage my brain before answering posts
I can't help it that you can't see my passion for what hasn't been privatised by the tories
I care about not just myself or my family
I care about people who can't help themselves
It's a weakness that a tory would NEVER understand | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 00:10 - May 11 with 808 views | rock1n |
| If you vote Labour on 00:05 - May 11 by Fireboy |
So what are you saying then SON?
You care about healthcare? Private healthcare or the NHS?
Because you seem to be slating labours obsession with the NHS and privitisation
And btw I always engage my brain before answering posts
I can't help it that you can't see my passion for what hasn't been privatised by the tories
I care about not just myself or my family
I care about people who can't help themselves
It's a weakness that a tory would NEVER understand |
Ok I bow to you. You are clearly more moral than I.
I don't want to engage with you anymore, people like you drive me round the bend. | |
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| If you vote Labour on 00:16 - May 11 with 796 views | Jack_Meoff |
| If you vote Labour on 00:02 - May 11 by rock1n |
1983 |
FFS
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| If you vote Labour on 00:22 - May 11 with 789 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Louise Edwards, the Electoral Commission’s head of regulation (the lady who investigated the claims of 30 Tory MPs failing to properly declare their use of so-called battle buses in 2015) was actually a Conservative hating woman on a politically motivated with hunt. I hope she is sacked.
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| If you vote Labour on 04:06 - May 11 with 774 views | pikeypaul |
| If you vote Labour on 00:02 - May 11 by rock1n |
1983 |
Is that spike Milligan acting the tw@t? |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 06:31 - May 11 with 758 views | Fireboy |
| If you vote Labour on 00:10 - May 11 by rock1n |
Ok I bow to you. You are clearly more moral than I.
I don't want to engage with you anymore, people like you drive me round the bend. |
Wow
So decent caring people drive you round the bend?
That statement says it all | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 07:30 - May 11 with 741 views | perchrockjack |
The format of that manifesto looked very much like Socialist Wworker stuf, found at protests from Fracking to Police Brutality.
I'm avoiding any more political comment as it clearly leads to nasty and naughty .
I mean we have entrenched opinions which ain't gonna change so it's really quite pointers posting further
I like Caroline Fflint though | |
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| If you vote Labour on 07:36 - May 11 with 730 views | waynekerr55 |
| If you vote Labour on 07:30 - May 11 by perchrockjack |
The format of that manifesto looked very much like Socialist Wworker stuf, found at protests from Fracking to Police Brutality.
I'm avoiding any more political comment as it clearly leads to nasty and naughty .
I mean we have entrenched opinions which ain't gonna change so it's really quite pointers posting further
I like Caroline Fflint though |
I think some people could do with some pointers on here |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 07:42 - May 11 with 723 views | perchrockjack |
Cracking post and subtlety sexist, salacious and proves I'm a fair man
Barbara Castle was a hell of a girl btw although genuinely and thoroughly auburn | |
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| If you vote Labour on 11:18 - May 11 with 669 views | rock1n |
| If you vote Labour on 06:31 - May 11 by Fireboy |
Wow
So decent caring people drive you round the bend?
That statement says it all |
Do you realise how sanctimonious you sound?
You believe because someone favours private provision in the health system that they are less moral? Do you realise how utterly pathetic and arrogant that position is.
Are France and Germany immoral Countries or societies? The poor in those Countries are able to get free at the point of use care and outcomes are far superior.
When I said people like you drive me round the bend, I meant your inflexibility your cultist belief in your own self importance. It's your sort of juvenile pomposity that means labour will never win an election for decades. | |
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| If you vote Labour on 12:39 - May 11 with 636 views | londonlisa2001 |
Now we just need to find someone to pay for them. | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 12:44 - May 11 with 629 views | NeathJack |
| If you vote Labour on 12:39 - May 11 by londonlisa2001 |
Now we just need to find someone to pay for them. |
Well they said it's all going to be costed in the actual manifesto so lets see what that says. |  | | |
| If you vote Labour on 12:48 - May 11 with 625 views | exiledclaseboy |
| If you vote Labour on 12:39 - May 11 by londonlisa2001 |
Now we just need to find someone to pay for them. |
It'll be costed, it'd be crazy for it not to be. The crux will be whether you agree with the spending priorities or not. |  |
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| If you vote Labour on 13:03 - May 11 with 614 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If you vote Labour on 12:44 - May 11 by NeathJack |
Well they said it's all going to be costed in the actual manifesto so lets see what that says. |
Leaks that are emerging on the finances don't add up. | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 13:08 - May 11 with 607 views | exiledclaseboy |
| If you vote Labour on 13:03 - May 11 by londonlisa2001 |
Leaks that are emerging on the finances don't add up. |
You mean a party's manifesto commitments are being accused of not making financial sense in the run up to a general election?
Well I'm shocked. | |
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| If you vote Labour on 13:10 - May 11 with 604 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If you vote Labour on 12:48 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
It'll be costed, it'd be crazy for it not to be. The crux will be whether you agree with the spending priorities or not. |
It's not the spending priorities, it's the assumptions that are being made about finances that just don't add up in the real world.
A tiny example of the problem. Say Virgin give up the franchises they have on the railways. It's not enough to say that the profits will then come back into the public purse, without also calculating the lost franchise fees, and the lost corporation tax on the loss of profits to Virgin as a U.K. Company. You can't only count the upside without the downside.
And that's without making any allowance for the accuracy of the asuumption that those parts of the rail network will be as profitable under public ownership as they are under private ownership.
Same with VAT on private school fees (which I have no problem with in principle). You can't make an assumption that there will be no effect whatsoever on the numbers of pupils attending private schools even though fees go up overnight by 20%. It's assuming a zero price elasticity which simply doesn't make sense. | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 13:12 - May 11 with 595 views | londonlisa2001 |
| If you vote Labour on 13:08 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
You mean a party's manifesto commitments are being accused of not making financial sense in the run up to a general election?
Well I'm shocked. |
And that's the problem Clasie. It's like Janet and John does sums. | | | |
| If you vote Labour on 13:12 - May 11 with 594 views | exiledclaseboy |
| If you vote Labour on 13:10 - May 11 by londonlisa2001 |
It's not the spending priorities, it's the assumptions that are being made about finances that just don't add up in the real world.
A tiny example of the problem. Say Virgin give up the franchises they have on the railways. It's not enough to say that the profits will then come back into the public purse, without also calculating the lost franchise fees, and the lost corporation tax on the loss of profits to Virgin as a U.K. Company. You can't only count the upside without the downside.
And that's without making any allowance for the accuracy of the asuumption that those parts of the rail network will be as profitable under public ownership as they are under private ownership.
Same with VAT on private school fees (which I have no problem with in principle). You can't make an assumption that there will be no effect whatsoever on the numbers of pupils attending private schools even though fees go up overnight by 20%. It's assuming a zero price elasticity which simply doesn't make sense. |
Yeah but you don't know any of that because the costing haven't been made available yet.
And frankly all manifesto spending commitments are pointless anyway cos at some point the civil service will get its claws into them.  | |
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