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A new book worth reading. 08:43 - Oct 13 with 1651 viewsLohengrin

Stuart Maconie's Long Road from Jarrow. I picked a copy up yesterday and I'm about two-thirds of the way through. A travelogue with some prescient, ground-level observations on the contemporary state of Brexit Britain. Funny in parts, discommoding in others it offers up a running commentary on the cyclic nature of history and turns a spotlight on both the tardiness and puniness of the response to preventable injustices by the political class in 2016 just as in 1936.

Read it.


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A new book worth reading. on 09:14 - Oct 13 with 1629 viewsProfessor

Thanks. I may well get this- have enjoyed some of his previous books. The description of Liverpool in "Pies and Prejudice" is accurate in its warmth and recognition of some of the city's issues.

The description of Slade in 'Cider with Roadies' made me fall off a chair whilst camping.

Just about to start Robert Forster's 'Grant and I. The Inside and Outside of the Go-Betweens'. but have a few long trips coming up.
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A new book worth reading. on 10:08 - Oct 13 with 1601 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 09:14 - Oct 13 by Professor

Thanks. I may well get this- have enjoyed some of his previous books. The description of Liverpool in "Pies and Prejudice" is accurate in its warmth and recognition of some of the city's issues.

The description of Slade in 'Cider with Roadies' made me fall off a chair whilst camping.

Just about to start Robert Forster's 'Grant and I. The Inside and Outside of the Go-Betweens'. but have a few long trips coming up.


This is the first of Maconie's books I've read. I've enjoyed it so much though I'll be looking to take in the rest, especially for the Slade chapter.

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A new book worth reading. on 10:24 - Oct 13 with 1592 viewsProfessor

A new book worth reading. on 10:08 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

This is the first of Maconie's books I've read. I've enjoyed it so much though I'll be looking to take in the rest, especially for the Slade chapter.


It's more autobiographical through growing up, college and as music journalist. Have read 3 or 4 of his books and all good. Like him as a radio presenter with Mark Radcliffe. I also though he makes a great contribution to the 'Escape from History' Manic Street Preachers documentary which is excellent whether or not you like the band.
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A new book worth reading. on 10:30 - Oct 13 with 1581 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 10:24 - Oct 13 by Professor

It's more autobiographical through growing up, college and as music journalist. Have read 3 or 4 of his books and all good. Like him as a radio presenter with Mark Radcliffe. I also though he makes a great contribution to the 'Escape from History' Manic Street Preachers documentary which is excellent whether or not you like the band.


Isn't Maconie a Marxist ?

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A new book worth reading. on 10:31 - Oct 13 with 1579 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 10:30 - Oct 13 by trampie

Isn't Maconie a Marxist ?


For the love of God, Tramp, get your mind out of the gutter!

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A new book worth reading. on 10:33 - Oct 13 with 1569 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 10:31 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

For the love of God, Tramp, get your mind out of the gutter!


You are saying he is not ???

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A new book worth reading. on 10:34 - Oct 13 with 1569 viewsProfessor

A new book worth reading. on 10:30 - Oct 13 by trampie

Isn't Maconie a Marxist ?


I don't think so. Not aware of many Marxist hill-walkers.
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A new book worth reading. on 10:42 - Oct 13 with 1557 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 10:34 - Oct 13 by Professor

I don't think so. Not aware of many Marxist hill-walkers.


See ' New Statesman' article from just a few months ago entitled 'Im a Marxist' by Maconie, I assume it's the same bloke.

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A new book worth reading. on 10:48 - Oct 13 with 1541 viewsexiledclaseboy

A new book worth reading. on 10:42 - Oct 13 by trampie

See ' New Statesman' article from just a few months ago entitled 'Im a Marxist' by Maconie, I assume it's the same bloke.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/i-m-marx

We’re all Marxists at heart.

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A new book worth reading. on 10:48 - Oct 13 with 1541 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 10:42 - Oct 13 by trampie

See ' New Statesman' article from just a few months ago entitled 'Im a Marxist' by Maconie, I assume it's the same bloke.


I'll go you one better and refer you to his article on "Misunderstanding Marxism." Tailor made for you, Tramp.

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A new book worth reading. on 10:52 - Oct 13 with 1531 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 10:48 - Oct 13 by exiledclaseboy

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2017/07/i-m-marx

We’re all Marxists at heart.


"...Colin and I noticed a Socialist Worker poster that read “What Does This Mean for Communism?” “It means the game’s up, comrade,” remarked Colin.

Well, quite.

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A new book worth reading. on 10:52 - Oct 13 with 1530 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 10:34 - Oct 13 by Professor

I don't think so. Not aware of many Marxist hill-walkers.


See his wiki page (for what it's worth).

Drawn to him was you butt ?

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A new book worth reading. on 10:56 - Oct 13 with 1522 viewsexiledclaseboy

A new book worth reading. on 10:52 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

"...Colin and I noticed a Socialist Worker poster that read “What Does This Mean for Communism?” “It means the game’s up, comrade,” remarked Colin.

Well, quite.


Indeed. But you know as well as I do the differences between Marxism as an ideology and communism as a political and economic system of government.
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A new book worth reading. on 11:00 - Oct 13 with 1510 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 10:08 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

This is the first of Maconie's books I've read. I've enjoyed it so much though I'll be looking to take in the rest, especially for the Slade chapter.


Are you suddenly feeling dirty Lohengrin ?, are you now going off his books that you are finding out his politics ?

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A new book worth reading. on 11:02 - Oct 13 with 1508 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 10:56 - Oct 13 by exiledclaseboy

Indeed. But you know as well as I do the differences between Marxism as an ideology and communism as a political and economic system of government.
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The former is a series of paper chapters, the latter a litany of degradation?

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A new book worth reading. on 11:03 - Oct 13 with 1504 viewsexiledclaseboy

A new book worth reading. on 11:02 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

The former is a series of paper chapters, the latter a litany of degradation?


I wouldn’t have put it quite like that but as always your phraseology does you great credit.

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A new book worth reading. on 11:14 - Oct 13 with 1485 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 11:00 - Oct 13 by trampie

Are you suddenly feeling dirty Lohengrin ?, are you now going off his books that you are finding out his politics ?


It's a fair bet I've got more Left Book Club editions sat on the shelves behind me than the rest of this board's membership put together, and then some. I've also read Stanford's biography of The Devil on several occasions, Tramp, but that doesn't mean I'm about to start worshipping him any time soon.

We read to gain knowledge and attempt to develop holistic insight, old bean. How are we to either support or oppose anything if we don't fully grasp what 'it' is?

Here endeth the lesson, Tramp. Take it to heart.

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A new book worth reading. on 11:15 - Oct 13 with 1481 viewstrampie

A new book worth reading. on 11:14 - Oct 13 by Lohengrin

It's a fair bet I've got more Left Book Club editions sat on the shelves behind me than the rest of this board's membership put together, and then some. I've also read Stanford's biography of The Devil on several occasions, Tramp, but that doesn't mean I'm about to start worshipping him any time soon.

We read to gain knowledge and attempt to develop holistic insight, old bean. How are we to either support or oppose anything if we don't fully grasp what 'it' is?

Here endeth the lesson, Tramp. Take it to heart.


You can read but do you understand ?

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A new book worth reading. on 11:16 - Oct 13 with 1481 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 11:03 - Oct 13 by exiledclaseboy

I wouldn’t have put it quite like that but as always your phraseology does you great credit.


I'm just dirty! Ask Trampie.

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A new book worth reading. on 11:18 - Oct 13 with 1476 viewsLohengrin

A new book worth reading. on 11:15 - Oct 13 by trampie

You can read but do you understand ?


I understand my job on here is to walk behind you constantly with a couple of coal scuttles like a Porthcawl beach attendant behind a donkey.

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A new book worth reading. on 11:21 - Oct 13 with 1473 viewstrampie

Lohengrin loves his Marxist authors hey.

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A new book worth reading. on 12:46 - Oct 13 with 1429 viewsProfessor

A new book worth reading. on 10:52 - Oct 13 by trampie

See his wiki page (for what it's worth).

Drawn to him was you butt ?


No

If you read his books or listen to him on the radio his love of walking is evident. Talks a fair bit about Wainright in 'Pies and Prejudice'.
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A new book worth reading. on 05:58 - Oct 14 with 1315 viewssquarebear

I read the one "Pies and Prejudice", I think it was called, in which he determined that The North began at Crewe. I was living there at the time and his analysis of that area near Crewe station was spot on.

He did a great job on the drive time slot on R2 filling in for Johnny Walker a few years ago. In my opinion he deserves a better slot in the schedules than he is generally given.
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