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1:19 pm today was the exact mid point from when the result that the Great British public had decided to leave the EU and the time 11pm March 29th 2019 that Democracy will be delivered.

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On Brexit island it’s all getting a bit Lordships of the Flies
Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg are realising their dream isn’t working out. So the Brexiteers have turned on the House of Lords

By Marina Hyde

Guardian, Fri 11 May 2018 15.45 BST Last modified on Fri 11 May 2018 16.40 BST

How promising to learn that there is going to be another cabinet “crunch meeting” next Tuesday to discuss the customs issue. Cabinet “crunch meetings” on Brexit are like Super Sundays on Sky Sports. There seems to be one every week, and the only thing that changes is the definition of the word super. And now the word crunch.

A friend of mine at university once pressed snooze on his alarm clock for eight and a half hours. Can you imagine? Every 10 minutes – a sort of torturous, self-punishing deferment that ends up being the worst of both worlds. This remains Britain’s Brexit strategy.

You can’t do it for ever, obviously, as was pointed out this week even by auto-satirical political entity Nick Timothy – not so much a man as a piece of performance art about the limits of self-awareness. In his latest newspaper column, Nick breached his political restraining order to tell his old boss to ditch her customs partnership plan, and back the “max fac” option. Furthermore, he explained, No 10 needed to “get on with it”.

Can anyone – doesn’t have to be election-caller-and-cocker-upper Nick Timothy – think of a reason why the prime minister finds herself even further up this creek than she was a year ago, with the clock ticking ever louder? Whatever that reason may be, it is not mentioned in Nick’s article. Never is. Nick Timothy is the opposite of the Ancient Mariner – he’s compelled to wander the world not telling the story of what he’s done to everyone he meets.

Last year, a senior figure on the leave side reflected to me that “the trouble with Brexit is that it’s the British establishment that has to deliver it”. I mean … who did they think would deliver it? A technocratic brains trust featuring Pep Guardiola, the late Steve Jobs and Oprah? Alas, such fantasising is common among Brexit’s architects, who will eventually tell us that the problem wasn’t Brexit itself, but the way Brexit was done. A lot of people still reckon the same about communism. It’s a nice thought, I suppose, but it isn’t going to butter many car plants.

There was Vote Leave mastermind Dominic Cummings, who explained, just the six months after Article 50 had been triggered, that we needed to “reboot” the civil service and Downing Street. And now there’s Daniel Hannan, who popped up this week to agree the bed was being shat – I paraphrase slightly – and to concede that those suggesting Brexit is not working out quite how he thought it would “have got a point”. As Hannan put it: “I had assumed that, by now, we’d have reached a broad national consensus around a moderate form of withdrawal that recognised the narrowness of the result.” Had you? “Assumption is the mother of all fcuk-ups” – and if you weren’t a plastic populist, you’d have picked that up from Under Siege 2: Dark Territory.

Ingénu-in-chief, naturally, is our wantaway foreign secretary. Ever anxious to leave the scene of his own fart – presumably so he can sweep in with the Airwick next year – Boris Johnson spent the early part of the week indulging in more provocative insubordination, calling the prime minister’s customs plan “crazy”. Perhaps this is yet another crack at suicide-by-cop. It’s certainly a reminder that Boris will always be the Tories’ Raoul Moat – lionised as a #massivelegend only by a particular type. You know exactly which type; unfortunately we don’t use the word in the Guardian unless it’s in reported speech.

Yes, it’s all getting a bit Lordships of the Flies on Brexit island. Rather cruelly miscast as Ralph is Jacob Rees-Mogg, who this week said of the upper chamber: “It is not a loved institution, it is a tolerated institution.” Bernard Jenkin is another arch-opponent of Lords reform who now conveniently regards the other house as preposterous. How’s Bernard managing this contortion? The Lords are, he reckoned this week, “drunk with their own prejudices”. At some level, it feels apt that Brexit has already descended into a pub car-park fight about who’s more drunk, given that heavy drinking is the only discipline in which we would probably win the world cup every time.

Indeed, the customs endgame is starting to feel like a warm night in a European square, with England two disastrous matches into a tournament. Rees-Mogg is already in a plastic tommy hat and eyeing the cafeteria furniture – the analytic equivalent of the fan who thinks the reason the side aren’t doing well is because they aren’t playing with enough “passion”. They don’t want it enough, was basically his verdict this week on the UK’s negotiators.

Eventually, alas, these big men will settle on a scapegoat they can actually win against. They will find a way to blame the “other” that Brexit was supposed to guard us against. But for now, as the New Statesman’s George Eaton noted this week, the House of Lords joins the BBC, the judiciary, the civil service and the free press in the range of British institutions being blamed by Brexiteers for sabotage. This, more than anything, confirms that the UK has officially left the aegis of Eurony, the EU irony agency, and is operating in a non-regulatory deadzone.

What is the England (and it is an England) that this particular type of Brexiteer is trying to get us back to, if it isn’t the House of Lords, Test Match Special on the Beeb, the quiet Rolls-Roycery of the civil service, out-of-touch high court judges, and a press who’ve mostly printed any old lie about the EU for the best part of three decades? No offence, but that is their romanticised past, their Albion, their Britain as it might dare to be again. Don’t turn on it now, guys! We see you!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/11/brexit-boris-johnson-jacob

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Time is running out for the cabinet to some up with a coherent Brexit strategy
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The Countdown begins. on 18:07 - May 11 by Shaky

On Brexit island it’s all getting a bit Lordships of the Flies
Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg are realising their dream isn’t working out. So the Brexiteers have turned on the House of Lords

By Marina Hyde

Guardian, Fri 11 May 2018 15.45 BST Last modified on Fri 11 May 2018 16.40 BST

How promising to learn that there is going to be another cabinet “crunch meeting” next Tuesday to discuss the customs issue. Cabinet “crunch meetings” on Brexit are like Super Sundays on Sky Sports. There seems to be one every week, and the only thing that changes is the definition of the word super. And now the word crunch.

A friend of mine at university once pressed snooze on his alarm clock for eight and a half hours. Can you imagine? Every 10 minutes – a sort of torturous, self-punishing deferment that ends up being the worst of both worlds. This remains Britain’s Brexit strategy.

You can’t do it for ever, obviously, as was pointed out this week even by auto-satirical political entity Nick Timothy – not so much a man as a piece of performance art about the limits of self-awareness. In his latest newspaper column, Nick breached his political restraining order to tell his old boss to ditch her customs partnership plan, and back the “max fac” option. Furthermore, he explained, No 10 needed to “get on with it”.

Can anyone – doesn’t have to be election-caller-and-cocker-upper Nick Timothy – think of a reason why the prime minister finds herself even further up this creek than she was a year ago, with the clock ticking ever louder? Whatever that reason may be, it is not mentioned in Nick’s article. Never is. Nick Timothy is the opposite of the Ancient Mariner – he’s compelled to wander the world not telling the story of what he’s done to everyone he meets.

Last year, a senior figure on the leave side reflected to me that “the trouble with Brexit is that it’s the British establishment that has to deliver it”. I mean … who did they think would deliver it? A technocratic brains trust featuring Pep Guardiola, the late Steve Jobs and Oprah? Alas, such fantasising is common among Brexit’s architects, who will eventually tell us that the problem wasn’t Brexit itself, but the way Brexit was done. A lot of people still reckon the same about communism. It’s a nice thought, I suppose, but it isn’t going to butter many car plants.

There was Vote Leave mastermind Dominic Cummings, who explained, just the six months after Article 50 had been triggered, that we needed to “reboot” the civil service and Downing Street. And now there’s Daniel Hannan, who popped up this week to agree the bed was being shat – I paraphrase slightly – and to concede that those suggesting Brexit is not working out quite how he thought it would “have got a point”. As Hannan put it: “I had assumed that, by now, we’d have reached a broad national consensus around a moderate form of withdrawal that recognised the narrowness of the result.” Had you? “Assumption is the mother of all fcuk-ups” – and if you weren’t a plastic populist, you’d have picked that up from Under Siege 2: Dark Territory.

Ingénu-in-chief, naturally, is our wantaway foreign secretary. Ever anxious to leave the scene of his own fart – presumably so he can sweep in with the Airwick next year – Boris Johnson spent the early part of the week indulging in more provocative insubordination, calling the prime minister’s customs plan “crazy”. Perhaps this is yet another crack at suicide-by-cop. It’s certainly a reminder that Boris will always be the Tories’ Raoul Moat – lionised as a #massivelegend only by a particular type. You know exactly which type; unfortunately we don’t use the word in the Guardian unless it’s in reported speech.

Yes, it’s all getting a bit Lordships of the Flies on Brexit island. Rather cruelly miscast as Ralph is Jacob Rees-Mogg, who this week said of the upper chamber: “It is not a loved institution, it is a tolerated institution.” Bernard Jenkin is another arch-opponent of Lords reform who now conveniently regards the other house as preposterous. How’s Bernard managing this contortion? The Lords are, he reckoned this week, “drunk with their own prejudices”. At some level, it feels apt that Brexit has already descended into a pub car-park fight about who’s more drunk, given that heavy drinking is the only discipline in which we would probably win the world cup every time.

Indeed, the customs endgame is starting to feel like a warm night in a European square, with England two disastrous matches into a tournament. Rees-Mogg is already in a plastic tommy hat and eyeing the cafeteria furniture – the analytic equivalent of the fan who thinks the reason the side aren’t doing well is because they aren’t playing with enough “passion”. They don’t want it enough, was basically his verdict this week on the UK’s negotiators.

Eventually, alas, these big men will settle on a scapegoat they can actually win against. They will find a way to blame the “other” that Brexit was supposed to guard us against. But for now, as the New Statesman’s George Eaton noted this week, the House of Lords joins the BBC, the judiciary, the civil service and the free press in the range of British institutions being blamed by Brexiteers for sabotage. This, more than anything, confirms that the UK has officially left the aegis of Eurony, the EU irony agency, and is operating in a non-regulatory deadzone.

What is the England (and it is an England) that this particular type of Brexiteer is trying to get us back to, if it isn’t the House of Lords, Test Match Special on the Beeb, the quiet Rolls-Roycery of the civil service, out-of-touch high court judges, and a press who’ve mostly printed any old lie about the EU for the best part of three decades? No offence, but that is their romanticised past, their Albion, their Britain as it might dare to be again. Don’t turn on it now, guys! We see you!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/11/brexit-boris-johnson-jacob


There was better opinion piece at the weekend commenting on pretty much the same thing, delivered with less hyperbole and rhetoric https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/13/incontinent-fury-of-brexit
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The Countdown begins. on 09:09 - May 18 with 1954 viewspeenemunde

The greatest decision the British people have ever made.
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The Countdown begins. on 09:58 - May 18 with 1940 viewsBatterseajack

How do you lot really think the red, white and blue Brexit is coming along then?
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The Countdown begins. on 09:58 - May 18 by Batterseajack

How do you lot really think the red, white and blue Brexit is coming along then?


If you want to live in the EU , why not move there ? Dublin, Madrid , Paris the choice is yours.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:02 - May 18 by peenemunde

If you want to live in the EU , why not move there ? Dublin, Madrid , Paris the choice is yours.


Not really answering my question is it.

How do you think Brexit is going?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:22 - May 18 by Batterseajack

Not really answering my question is it.

How do you think Brexit is going?


We have a sellout government who don’t want to leave.
There should have been a pro Brexit PM leading the negotiations from the start.

When we do finally leave and get our house in order, Brexit will be the greatest episode this country has seen in hundreds of years.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:31 - May 18 by peenemunde

We have a sellout government who don’t want to leave.
There should have been a pro Brexit PM leading the negotiations from the start.

When we do finally leave and get our house in order, Brexit will be the greatest episode this country has seen in hundreds of years.


There's plenty of Brexiteers within the cabinet, the government supposedly has a mandate to deliver Brexit and the Brexit sectary is a prominent leaver. The trouble TM has, is that the governments own impact assessments don't match that of what the committed leavers promised and it now seems to be the case of damage limitation or admitting reality. If the upsides of leaving are really as good as leavers expected, why are these negotiations proving to be as difficult and slow as it appears?

When you say "greatest episode this country has seen in hundreds of years", by what measure?
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The Countdown begins. on 10:51 - May 18 by Batterseajack

There's plenty of Brexiteers within the cabinet, the government supposedly has a mandate to deliver Brexit and the Brexit sectary is a prominent leaver. The trouble TM has, is that the governments own impact assessments don't match that of what the committed leavers promised and it now seems to be the case of damage limitation or admitting reality. If the upsides of leaving are really as good as leavers expected, why are these negotiations proving to be as difficult and slow as it appears?

When you say "greatest episode this country has seen in hundreds of years", by what measure?


The governments own impact assessments lol don’t make me laugh 😂.
Why is it proving difficult and slow you say, again don’t make me laugh, politicians hell bent on keeping us in the Eu, is the problem.

They are playing with fire, and risk radicalising a lot of people from the 17.4 million who voted to leave.

Once in a lifetime generation we were told this vote would be, and the government would carry out the will of the people.

MPs voted 6:1 in favour of holding a referendum.....now my advice to them is get on and deliver.
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The Countdown begins. on 10:31 - May 18 by peenemunde

We have a sellout government who don’t want to leave.
There should have been a pro Brexit PM leading the negotiations from the start.

When we do finally leave and get our house in order, Brexit will be the greatest episode this country has seen in hundreds of years.


Bit like SCFC you mean?

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The Countdown begins. on 11:01 - May 18 by peenemunde

The governments own impact assessments lol don’t make me laugh 😂.
Why is it proving difficult and slow you say, again don’t make me laugh, politicians hell bent on keeping us in the Eu, is the problem.

They are playing with fire, and risk radicalising a lot of people from the 17.4 million who voted to leave.

Once in a lifetime generation we were told this vote would be, and the government would carry out the will of the people.

MPs voted 6:1 in favour of holding a referendum.....now my advice to them is get on and deliver.


You say, don;t make me laugh, but what issues do you have with the Governments Brexit impact assessment?

https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/Exiting-the-European-Unio

Likewise, the politicians in power have a mandate for Brexit, and many of them in charge campaigned to leave, why can't they agree on an approach 2 years after the vote? Surely if there were clear upsides to be had, they'd go for it? no?
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You say, don;t make me laugh, but what issues do you have with the Governments Brexit impact assessment?

https://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/Exiting-the-European-Unio

Likewise, the politicians in power have a mandate for Brexit, and many of them in charge campaigned to leave, why can't they agree on an approach 2 years after the vote? Surely if there were clear upsides to be had, they'd go for it? no?


Not if they have to satisfy their mates in the bilderberg group as a primary concern.

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Not if they have to satisfy their mates in the bilderberg group as a primary concern.


Into tinfoil hat territory here. But they also got the editors and readership of the daily Mail, Telegraph, Sun and Express to satisfy.
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With TM as PM, it wouldn’t surprise me if it ended up like that, but that’s not what people voted for. If the fight has to go on, then so be it.
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Glorious, absolutely glorious.
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I think you mean ....
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