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One trick pony 21:22 - Jan 5 with 10517 viewsswan65split

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One trick pony on 22:46 - Jan 6 with 930 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 22:39 - Jan 6 by E20Jack

Because they are well versed in the cheating techniques and have trained croupiers and anti cheating teams with a camera on every table.

Now how isnt it?


Croupiers and cameras would be no good against certain strategies.

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One trick pony on 22:50 - Jan 6 with 918 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 22:46 - Jan 6 by trampie

Croupiers and cameras would be no good against certain strategies.


Against every single strategy.

Feel free to name one you dont believe they can cover.

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One trick pony on 22:53 - Jan 6 with 908 viewsJack11

One trick pony on 22:50 - Jan 6 by E20Jack

Against every single strategy.

Feel free to name one you dont believe they can cover.


Cue Google search of how to cheat a casino
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One trick pony on 22:54 - Jan 6 with 907 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 22:50 - Jan 6 by E20Jack

Against every single strategy.

Feel free to name one you dont believe they can cover.


You don't know of any strategy to beat the bank, I did not expect anything else of you.

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One trick pony on 22:55 - Jan 6 with 899 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 22:54 - Jan 6 by trampie

You don't know of any strategy to beat the bank, I did not expect anything else of you.


Many strategies yes. But none that can be implemented in these establishments that are not easily flagged.

As I said, feel free to put one forward.
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One trick pony on 22:56 - Jan 6 with 895 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 22:53 - Jan 6 by Jack11

Cue Google search of how to cheat a casino


I don't doubt it. I really don't.

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One trick pony on 23:01 - Jan 6 with 883 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 22:55 - Jan 6 by E20Jack

Many strategies yes. But none that can be implemented in these establishments that are not easily flagged.

As I said, feel free to put one forward.
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You think that nobody can beat the bank (unless they are lucky) that might be the case for 99.9% of punters but is not the case for all punters.

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One trick pony on 14:17 - Jan 7 with 793 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 23:01 - Jan 6 by trampie

You think that nobody can beat the bank (unless they are lucky) that might be the case for 99.9% of punters but is not the case for all punters.


Just back from the ban requested by "sad act" so will have to post again, apologies Tramps....

Not really what I said, but see you want to avoid the crux of the matter due to probable little knowledge on the subject.

But lets humour the question. Roulette? Yes, you can only win if you get lucky. Unless you infiltrate the casino 'Oceans 11 style' and switch the ball for a mechanical one controlled by a team back at the hotel.

Blackjack? More plausible but would take a highly trained team to pull it off to perfection, even then it would be quickly spotted and would be at the table no longer than an hour before being forcibly removed and possible winnings refused to be cashed in.

And I doubt the crack team needed to even stand a chance of pulling it off would ever utter the sentence "played pontoon in Vegas (think they called it blackjack"

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One trick pony on 15:10 - Jan 7 with 767 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 14:17 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

Just back from the ban requested by "sad act" so will have to post again, apologies Tramps....

Not really what I said, but see you want to avoid the crux of the matter due to probable little knowledge on the subject.

But lets humour the question. Roulette? Yes, you can only win if you get lucky. Unless you infiltrate the casino 'Oceans 11 style' and switch the ball for a mechanical one controlled by a team back at the hotel.

Blackjack? More plausible but would take a highly trained team to pull it off to perfection, even then it would be quickly spotted and would be at the table no longer than an hour before being forcibly removed and possible winnings refused to be cashed in.

And I doubt the crack team needed to even stand a chance of pulling it off would ever utter the sentence "played pontoon in Vegas (think they called it blackjack"


When i have visited a casino a player only needed a staking plan to win at one game with not even average luck and a head for numbers in the other game.

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One trick pony on 15:17 - Jan 7 with 764 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 15:10 - Jan 7 by trampie

When i have visited a casino a player only needed a staking plan to win at one game with not even average luck and a head for numbers in the other game.


So you are not talking about cheating anymore. You are talking about a staking plan.

No staking plan will give the player the edge over the house. The only ome that will is the martingale system, unfortunately you need an endless supply of money and casinos already ore empt that with table limits.

You are talking about increasing your %'not overtaking thr house %.

So I take you back to the plane analogy.

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One trick pony on 15:25 - Jan 7 with 750 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 15:17 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

So you are not talking about cheating anymore. You are talking about a staking plan.

No staking plan will give the player the edge over the house. The only ome that will is the martingale system, unfortunately you need an endless supply of money and casinos already ore empt that with table limits.

You are talking about increasing your %'not overtaking thr house %.

So I take you back to the plane analogy.


A player doesn't have to bet on single numbers if they don't want too mind.

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One trick pony on 15:25 - Jan 7 with 749 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 15:25 - Jan 7 by trampie

A player doesn't have to bet on single numbers if they don't want too mind.


Makes no difference.

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One trick pony on 15:29 - Jan 7 with 737 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 15:25 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

Makes no difference.


It makes a huge difference.

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One trick pony on 15:32 - Jan 7 with 731 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 15:29 - Jan 7 by trampie

It makes a huge difference.


No difference at all.

Any change in pattern simply readjusts the pre determined odds with inbuilt over round.

You really have picked the wrong sibject to blag Tramps.

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One trick pony on 15:35 - Jan 7 with 723 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 15:32 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

No difference at all.

Any change in pattern simply readjusts the pre determined odds with inbuilt over round.

You really have picked the wrong sibject to blag Tramps.


You are wrong

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One trick pony on 15:39 - Jan 7 with 715 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 15:35 - Jan 7 by trampie

You are wrong


Trampie it is not an opinion, they are fixed odds. You can do the maths of every single combination bet you want to do now on this thread to work out the odds of winning it.

If you can prove that a bet on roulette gives you a % advantage over the house then you will probably win a Nobel Peace Prize.

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One trick pony on 15:45 - Jan 7 with 703 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 15:39 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

Trampie it is not an opinion, they are fixed odds. You can do the maths of every single combination bet you want to do now on this thread to work out the odds of winning it.

If you can prove that a bet on roulette gives you a % advantage over the house then you will probably win a Nobel Peace Prize.


You have already said a system that will beat the bank, now you are saying the bank cannot be beaten, make your mind up ?

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One trick pony on 15:59 - Jan 7 with 693 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 15:45 - Jan 7 by trampie

You have already said a system that will beat the bank, now you are saying the bank cannot be beaten, make your mind up ?


No I havent. Quite the opposite.

I have given you reasons to why a staking system can't beat the bank.

As I've said one single example of how you can beat the house % and you will win a peace prize.

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One trick pony on 16:14 - Jan 7 with 664 viewsMrSwerve

Only on Planet Swans could a thread go from pointing out a former attacking midfielder's goal scoring rate to casino strategies.

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One trick pony on 16:26 - Jan 7 with 649 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 15:59 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

No I havent. Quite the opposite.

I have given you reasons to why a staking system can't beat the bank.

As I've said one single example of how you can beat the house % and you will win a peace prize.


You said the only one that will is the martingale system and since you can bet on close to 50-50 selections and you can start off with the minimum bet you have to be very unlucky to go even 3 or 4 spins without winning leave alone 7 or 8 spins.

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One trick pony on 16:29 - Jan 7 with 647 viewsexiledclaseboy

One trick pony on 16:14 - Jan 7 by MrSwerve

Only on Planet Swans could a thread go from pointing out a former attacking midfielder's goal scoring rate to casino strategies.


I’d like to say they’ll bore each other into submission but knowing these two, they won’t.

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One trick pony on 16:32 - Jan 7 with 636 viewsLeonWasGod

One trick pony on 16:29 - Jan 7 by exiledclaseboy

I’d like to say they’ll bore each other into submission but knowing these two, they won’t.


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One trick pony on 16:33 - Jan 7 with 630 viewsE20Jack

One trick pony on 16:26 - Jan 7 by trampie

You said the only one that will is the martingale system and since you can bet on close to 50-50 selections and you can start off with the minimum bet you have to be very unlucky to go even 3 or 4 spins without winning leave alone 7 or 8 spins.


Not will, can. You will still lose longterm.

So you are now telling me you use the martingale system yes?

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One trick pony on 16:42 - Jan 7 with 611 viewstrampie

One trick pony on 16:33 - Jan 7 by E20Jack

Not will, can. You will still lose longterm.

So you are now telling me you use the martingale system yes?


At 15.17 you said 'will'.

What's this long term you are off about, I'm all about winning, I've had a dabble for a few hours at the most and won yet you don't think it can be done.

And the reason you think it can't be done is because you have not got the intelligence or nous and can't accept it when others can win and you can't.

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One trick pony on 16:49 - Jan 7 with 603 viewsairedale

I won £60 in a casino once, and £86 on a (single) scratchy.

So there, beat that if you can.
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