WAKE UP!!!!! 18:57 - Jun 12 with 5592 views | dickythorpe | We are being played here by the yanks. | | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 10:55 - Jun 14 with 1371 views | 34dfgdf54 |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 01:11 - Jun 14 by NotLoyal | As I have been saying and continue to say. |
Yeah, difference is though when things go wrong on the pitch you stick to blaming Yanks. Dicky will move on to a vendetta against the manager. Last season he was telling everyone on here “it’s not the Americans, it’s Potter” pretty much in those words. Board to blame by dickythorpe 13 Apr 2019 19:51No doubt that'll be the cry for today's shambles.
No leaders on that field today.
Same errors yet again.
Worried?
Too many complacent fans on here. [Post edited 14 Jun 2019 11:01]
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WAKE UP!!!!! on 13:06 - Jun 14 with 1261 views | dickythorpe |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 10:55 - Jun 14 by 34dfgdf54 | Yeah, difference is though when things go wrong on the pitch you stick to blaming Yanks. Dicky will move on to a vendetta against the manager. Last season he was telling everyone on here “it’s not the Americans, it’s Potter” pretty much in those words. Board to blame by dickythorpe 13 Apr 2019 19:51No doubt that'll be the cry for today's shambles.
No leaders on that field today.
Same errors yet again.
Worried?
Too many complacent fans on here. [Post edited 14 Jun 2019 11:01]
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Wow Risca, just wow. | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 17:02 - Jun 14 with 1176 views | 34dfgdf54 |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 13:06 - Jun 14 by dickythorpe | Wow Risca, just wow. |
That’s my reaction to literally every post you make. So contradictory it’s scary, | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 18:14 - Jun 14 with 1110 views | dickythorpe |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 17:02 - Jun 14 by 34dfgdf54 | That’s my reaction to literally every post you make. So contradictory it’s scary, |
First world problems Risca | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 18:31 - Jun 14 with 1092 views | pencoedjack |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 19:56 - Jun 12 by vetchonian | No more than we were by the previous mob of so called fans who took millions from the club |
The day the sold to a hedge fund we were on a hiding to nothing, I said it at the time but some posters on here claimed I was a drama queen. Same posters said the same when I said I was worried that we’d sold all our decent assets | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 19:05 - Jun 14 with 1064 views | 34dfgdf54 |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 18:31 - Jun 14 by pencoedjack | The day the sold to a hedge fund we were on a hiding to nothing, I said it at the time but some posters on here claimed I was a drama queen. Same posters said the same when I said I was worried that we’d sold all our decent assets |
Agreed. Until these owners go, survival in this league will always be successful, as we are constantly up against it. | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 13:41 - Jun 17 with 880 views | Al_Bundy | Sad thing is their track records of sports club ownership was poor before they took us on. Bottom of every league. Makes the jenkins decision to sell to them even more unpalatable | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 08:36 - Jun 18 with 644 views | Badlands |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 13:41 - Jun 17 by Al_Bundy | Sad thing is their track records of sports club ownership was poor before they took us on. Bottom of every league. Makes the jenkins decision to sell to them even more unpalatable |
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WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:07 - Jun 18 with 602 views | Chief |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 08:36 - Jun 18 by Badlands | Not true. |
Kaplan and Levien now own 3 sports teams that are all in last place by MyFinalHeaven 1 Jan 2018 1:191. DC United, which Levien owns and is the managing director of. They recently finished tied for last place in the 22 team MLS and scored the fewest number of goals. Last place, least amount of goals--talk about a parallel to us.
2. Memphis Grizzlies, which Kaplan owns and is the Vice Chairman of. Currently dead last in the Western Conference of the NBA.
3. And of course, us. Dead last in the EPL and like DC United, also dead last when it comes to goals scored.
This is a new low in sports ownership history. Never before has an individual or a group of individuals who owned 2 or more clubs ever had them all in last place like this. And these blokes own 3. Congrats on the accomplishment you stupid cvnts. It takes a special kind of incompetence and uselessness to achieve such a task, and somehow you two managed it.
What sticks out for me most is with the other football team they own besides ours, DC United, which has gone down a very similar path to SCFC since Levien took them over back in 2012. It's eerie almost in the similarities. In his first full season as owner in 2013 DC United finished dead last, and in every year of his ownership they've been in the bottom 4 of the league in terms of wage bills. And just like us, Levien has not put a cent into the club. Looking at DC United fans talk about their ownership on social media and on their message board, it's strikingly reminiscent of ours, with their supporters expressing utter hopelessness and frustration about how club brass don't give two fvcks about the club, how they only care about making money, and how even the bare minimum isn't being put in. Have a look at DC United's transfer spending sheet year by year, it's one of the most depressing things I have ever seen. In 6 years of ownership Levien has spent just £4.6m on players, and they had THREE SEASONS WHERE THEY DIDN'T EVEN SPEND A SINGLE DOLLAR ON PLAYERS:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/d-c-united/alletransfers/verein/2440
Levien has ran to the press and postured about how desperate he is to spend and win though. Check out what he said back in April 2013. The team would end up spending £0 on players that season:
“We are willing to spend what it takes to be competitive at the upper echelons of the league,” he said. “The revenue streams are still not there, but while we are mindful of that, we want to win. And we owe it to our fans and our own competitive nature to assemble a roster that can compete with anyone in the league.”
From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2013/04/29/few-minutes-with-uniteds-jason-levien/?utm_term=.e10c77d042a0
Sound familiar? That's because it is. Remember what Levien said in his first conference after the takeover about how willing he was to spend, bragging endlessly about his "financial resources," how he wanted to "make a splash," and how we were no longer going to be a selling club or a club that players used as a stepping stone?:
"We will be relentless in our determination to continually improve this club - and we have the financial resources to do so. We will be competitive and we will outwork our opponents on the pitch and in the boardroom."
"We want to build a football club that is competitive...perhaps Swansea has been seen as a stepping-stone club for some players in the past, a chance to show what they can do in the Premier League before moving quickly on. Those days are over."
“I think Huw has a tremendous football mind and he’s proven that over more than a decade. We want to make sure Huw and the club have the resources to succeed. We want to make a splash."
But wait, it gets even worse. Let's not forget Levien also said the following:
"Steve and I have both said our first, second and third priority is what's going to help us on the pitch short and long-term."
"Our message to fans is we are very focused on winning and continued success."
"The biggest thing of all is that when we go out on that pitch we're competitive."
"It's something that I love, something that drives me to be involved in sports - you're in the game to win the game and that's why we're here."
We recognise this club means so much to so many people and we take the responsibility as owners very seriously. While we plan on being long-term owners we know the team belongs to the community. In essence, we see ourselves as guardians of the club but it belongs to the fans of Swansea City. One thing we want to be clear about is our priorities as owners. Priority number one, two and three is the performance of the team on the pitch. We will field a competitive team that will battle every week against the greatest teams and players in the world. We know there is always a sense of fear and trepidation when new owners arrive on the scene but we will do everything in our power to win your trust and ensure there is a long and bright future for Swansea City.
Given all this, and with Kaplan and Levien's utterly horrendous track record when it comes to sports ownership, it is absolutely appalling why Jenkins would sell to these two, especially when he's babbled so much over the years about how he wants to ensure Swansea City is in the right hands and continues to move forward when he eventually leaves. It's especially perplexing when you take into account that he had turned down John Jay Moores' attempt to purchase us, someone who actually has a somewhat successful history of owning a team with the San Diego Padres, which he owned from 1994 to 2008. How he could turn down Moores, or anyone really, for these two con men is absolutely incredible. My only guess is that Moores' offer did not include a guarantee he would stay on as chairman and remain in power like K&L's offer, and that Moores was looking to replace him with a proper DoF should he have taken over. I suggest you read this | |
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WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:14 - Jun 18 with 594 views | NotLoyal |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 08:36 - Jun 18 by Badlands | Not true. |
Course it is. The reports and news is in black and white, it's what is called proof. [Post edited 18 Jun 2019 9:17]
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WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:19 - Jun 18 with 578 views | Al_Bundy |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:07 - Jun 18 by Chief | Kaplan and Levien now own 3 sports teams that are all in last place by MyFinalHeaven 1 Jan 2018 1:191. DC United, which Levien owns and is the managing director of. They recently finished tied for last place in the 22 team MLS and scored the fewest number of goals. Last place, least amount of goals--talk about a parallel to us.
2. Memphis Grizzlies, which Kaplan owns and is the Vice Chairman of. Currently dead last in the Western Conference of the NBA.
3. And of course, us. Dead last in the EPL and like DC United, also dead last when it comes to goals scored.
This is a new low in sports ownership history. Never before has an individual or a group of individuals who owned 2 or more clubs ever had them all in last place like this. And these blokes own 3. Congrats on the accomplishment you stupid cvnts. It takes a special kind of incompetence and uselessness to achieve such a task, and somehow you two managed it.
What sticks out for me most is with the other football team they own besides ours, DC United, which has gone down a very similar path to SCFC since Levien took them over back in 2012. It's eerie almost in the similarities. In his first full season as owner in 2013 DC United finished dead last, and in every year of his ownership they've been in the bottom 4 of the league in terms of wage bills. And just like us, Levien has not put a cent into the club. Looking at DC United fans talk about their ownership on social media and on their message board, it's strikingly reminiscent of ours, with their supporters expressing utter hopelessness and frustration about how club brass don't give two fvcks about the club, how they only care about making money, and how even the bare minimum isn't being put in. Have a look at DC United's transfer spending sheet year by year, it's one of the most depressing things I have ever seen. In 6 years of ownership Levien has spent just £4.6m on players, and they had THREE SEASONS WHERE THEY DIDN'T EVEN SPEND A SINGLE DOLLAR ON PLAYERS:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/d-c-united/alletransfers/verein/2440
Levien has ran to the press and postured about how desperate he is to spend and win though. Check out what he said back in April 2013. The team would end up spending £0 on players that season:
“We are willing to spend what it takes to be competitive at the upper echelons of the league,” he said. “The revenue streams are still not there, but while we are mindful of that, we want to win. And we owe it to our fans and our own competitive nature to assemble a roster that can compete with anyone in the league.”
From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2013/04/29/few-minutes-with-uniteds-jason-levien/?utm_term=.e10c77d042a0
Sound familiar? That's because it is. Remember what Levien said in his first conference after the takeover about how willing he was to spend, bragging endlessly about his "financial resources," how he wanted to "make a splash," and how we were no longer going to be a selling club or a club that players used as a stepping stone?:
"We will be relentless in our determination to continually improve this club - and we have the financial resources to do so. We will be competitive and we will outwork our opponents on the pitch and in the boardroom."
"We want to build a football club that is competitive...perhaps Swansea has been seen as a stepping-stone club for some players in the past, a chance to show what they can do in the Premier League before moving quickly on. Those days are over."
“I think Huw has a tremendous football mind and he’s proven that over more than a decade. We want to make sure Huw and the club have the resources to succeed. We want to make a splash."
But wait, it gets even worse. Let's not forget Levien also said the following:
"Steve and I have both said our first, second and third priority is what's going to help us on the pitch short and long-term."
"Our message to fans is we are very focused on winning and continued success."
"The biggest thing of all is that when we go out on that pitch we're competitive."
"It's something that I love, something that drives me to be involved in sports - you're in the game to win the game and that's why we're here."
We recognise this club means so much to so many people and we take the responsibility as owners very seriously. While we plan on being long-term owners we know the team belongs to the community. In essence, we see ourselves as guardians of the club but it belongs to the fans of Swansea City. One thing we want to be clear about is our priorities as owners. Priority number one, two and three is the performance of the team on the pitch. We will field a competitive team that will battle every week against the greatest teams and players in the world. We know there is always a sense of fear and trepidation when new owners arrive on the scene but we will do everything in our power to win your trust and ensure there is a long and bright future for Swansea City.
Given all this, and with Kaplan and Levien's utterly horrendous track record when it comes to sports ownership, it is absolutely appalling why Jenkins would sell to these two, especially when he's babbled so much over the years about how he wants to ensure Swansea City is in the right hands and continues to move forward when he eventually leaves. It's especially perplexing when you take into account that he had turned down John Jay Moores' attempt to purchase us, someone who actually has a somewhat successful history of owning a team with the San Diego Padres, which he owned from 1994 to 2008. How he could turn down Moores, or anyone really, for these two con men is absolutely incredible. My only guess is that Moores' offer did not include a guarantee he would stay on as chairman and remain in power like K&L's offer, and that Moores was looking to replace him with a proper DoF should he have taken over. I suggest you read this |
That will be selective reading for some. A combination of continually bad key decisions on and off the pitch is why we are where we are. A drop to L1 will see all this player movement start all over again and the new Manager appointment is a risk at this level. I get balancing the books and living within your means but the downward spiral is down to the owners managing a global brand and failing. Sadly the knock on effect is impacting the people and economy of Swansea. | | | |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:21 - Jun 18 with 574 views | NotLoyal |
WAKE UP!!!!! on 09:19 - Jun 18 by Al_Bundy | That will be selective reading for some. A combination of continually bad key decisions on and off the pitch is why we are where we are. A drop to L1 will see all this player movement start all over again and the new Manager appointment is a risk at this level. I get balancing the books and living within your means but the downward spiral is down to the owners managing a global brand and failing. Sadly the knock on effect is impacting the people and economy of Swansea. |
I don't 'get' balancing the books because there is no proof nor confirmation from a majority shareholder who is being refused to confirm or deny their statements. It's utter bullshit until it's confirmed. | |
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