| Wales' Brexit Vote 17:24 - Feb 2 with 6578 views | johnlangy |
Here's some interesting info in an article published by professor Danny Dorling of Oxford University recently.
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“If you look at the more genuinely Welsh areas, especially the Welsh-speaking ones, they did not want to leave the EU,” Dorling told the Sunday Times. “Wales was made to look like a Brexit-supporting nation by its English settlers.”
About 21% (650,000) of people living in Wales were born in England, with nearly a quarter aged over 65. The country voted for Brexit by a majority of just 82,000.
Border towns and areas of central Wales with large English communities, such as Wrexham and Powys, recorded a higher proportion of leave votes, whereas Welsh-speaking areas such as Gwynedd and Ceredigion had high remain votes.
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So Welsh people did not after all vote for Brexit. |  | | |  |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 14:41 - Feb 6 with 1013 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 15:41 - Feb 4 by Highjack |
Most of those English retirees tend to converge around Pembrokeshire and west wales. I can’t imagine millions of wealthy English pensioners flock in their droves to places like Mountain Ash. |
That's the main argument against this 'English voters in wales' bs
Merthyr voted 56% out
Rondda vote 53% out
Newport voted 56% out
Wrexham Voted 59% out
These areas aren't exactly retirement utopias |  |
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| Wales' Brexit Vote on 19:55 - Feb 6 with 955 views | Flashberryjack |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 14:41 - Feb 6 by Vincent_Vega |
That's the main argument against this 'English voters in wales' bs
Merthyr voted 56% out
Rondda vote 53% out
Newport voted 56% out
Wrexham Voted 59% out
These areas aren't exactly retirement utopias |
More than half the people living in those areas are thick as f*ck. |  |
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| Wales' Brexit Vote on 23:06 - Feb 6 with 918 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 14:28 - Feb 6 by Catullus |
Wales has been solidly left wing for decades yet now anyone who voted leave is an ignorant right wing, tacist, xenophobe with no intelligence or education....not being as left wing as some seems to mean you are a Tory these days.
I wonder what Kilk makes of the latest poll that shows support for independence has risen to 21% yet there is still more support for reversing devolution. More people believe in the Union and trust Westminster than believe in Indy or would trust the Senedd.
Don't tell me, it's all the old people and in 20 years it'll all have changed!Just like Brexit I guess. |
‘There has been a 5% increase in support for independence since the General Election, according to a YouGov poll published tonight’ (02/2020).
A huge jump in a short period of time.
Thank you Brexidiots.
27% is a great place to start.
In 5 years it looks like there will be a fair old majority for indy then.
When Scotland is free, then Wales will follow. 🇪🇺ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿
The direction of travel is crystal clear. |  |
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| Wales' Brexit Vote on 17:52 - Feb 7 with 864 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 23:06 - Feb 6 by Kilkennyjack |
‘There has been a 5% increase in support for independence since the General Election, according to a YouGov poll published tonight’ (02/2020).
A huge jump in a short period of time.
Thank you Brexidiots.
27% is a great place to start.
In 5 years it looks like there will be a fair old majority for indy then.
When Scotland is free, then Wales will follow. 🇪🇺ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿
The direction of travel is crystal clear. |
I see the IRA did not like the brexit vote. They attempted to plant a bomb on a lorry to explode on a ferry on brexit night. Fortunately they put it on the wrong lorry and our security forces found it.
If the IRA are anti Brexit it must be a good thing to leave. | |
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| Wales' Brexit Vote on 18:44 - Feb 7 with 849 views | Catullus |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 23:06 - Feb 6 by Kilkennyjack |
‘There has been a 5% increase in support for independence since the General Election, according to a YouGov poll published tonight’ (02/2020).
A huge jump in a short period of time.
Thank you Brexidiots.
27% is a great place to start.
In 5 years it looks like there will be a fair old majority for indy then.
When Scotland is free, then Wales will follow. 🇪🇺ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ³ó £ó ´ó ¿
The direction of travel is crystal clear. |
Well when you remove chunks of people the percentages will rise,
Removing would not vote, don’t knows and those who refused to answer, the poll projects that 27% would support an independent Wales in a referendum.
So support is not at 27% in the real world and there is still more support for reversing devolution. | |
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| Wales' Brexit Vote on 10:51 - Feb 8 with 785 views | johnlangy |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 18:44 - Feb 7 by Catullus |
Well when you remove chunks of people the percentages will rise,
Removing would not vote, don’t knows and those who refused to answer, the poll projects that 27% would support an independent Wales in a referendum.
So support is not at 27% in the real world and there is still more support for reversing devolution. |
Well of course. But that's how it's always measured isn't it ? You can only measure it based on the people willing to give an answer.
They say the Tories won their large majority in the GE by winning just 43% of the vote. But if you measure their vote as a percentage of the electorate (including would not vote, don't knows and those who refused to answer) they probably achieved their 80 majority on about 30%.
So in the real world they are running the country based on the support of less than a third of voters. | | | |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 12:10 - Feb 8 with 766 views | Catullus |
| Wales' Brexit Vote on 10:51 - Feb 8 by johnlangy |
Well of course. But that's how it's always measured isn't it ? You can only measure it based on the people willing to give an answer.
They say the Tories won their large majority in the GE by winning just 43% of the vote. But if you measure their vote as a percentage of the electorate (including would not vote, don't knows and those who refused to answer) they probably achieved their 80 majority on about 30%.
So in the real world they are running the country based on the support of less than a third of voters. |
Yes that's obviously right but I much prefer an honest reflection of the figures than all this removing chunks, it gives a biased set of figures which makes support, or lack of seem more pronounced.
The polls are already too unreliable. The only poll that will really be a true reflection will be to have the referendum on the issue at hand and I'm all for it so we can put the baby to bed. If people then choose not to vote they can't complain and if the outcome is an indy Wales or a reversal of devolution then the losing side needs to shut up and get on with it. | |
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