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Lewis Hamilton 09:55 - Sep 14 with 2107 viewsbritferry

great driver, seems to be a prat of a bloke and a right hypocrite to boot.

Got the cheek to play the UK national anthem when he wins but lives in Monaco to avoid paying our taxes.

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Lewis Hamilton on 21:56 - Sep 15 with 584 viewsbritferry

Lewis Hamilton on 20:18 - Sep 15 by Jack11

What the heck are you pair on about? All sorts of people have been bought into this, most of them not even F1 drivers for gods sake. Your thread is about Hamilton being a tax exile. People are decrying it. I’m pointing out that two white British F1 drivers have done exactly the same. It’s called a balanced debate.


I also called the prat a prat or did you miss that bit?

And I still didnt see the other 2 ex-F1 tax-dodging drivers standing up accepting a trophy as a Brit this weekend, so why did you decide to bring in the other drivers? I think we are all aware its common practice in F1 to live in Monaco.

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Lewis Hamilton on 21:57 - Sep 15 with 584 viewsKerouac

Lewis Hamilton on 20:18 - Sep 15 by Jack11

What the heck are you pair on about? All sorts of people have been bought into this, most of them not even F1 drivers for gods sake. Your thread is about Hamilton being a tax exile. People are decrying it. I’m pointing out that two white British F1 drivers have done exactly the same. It’s called a balanced debate.


They didn't pretend to be something that they weren't.
Hamilton plays politics and is a fraud when you examine how he lives his own life versus his apparent political beliefs.

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Lewis Hamilton on 21:58 - Sep 15 with 582 viewsJack11

Great, another one. I didn’t bring his colour into it though did I? That was done before I said anything. Green credentials have nothing to do with the context I was using. Secondly, have I anywhere defended Hamilton the bloke? Nope, so you’re engineering a disagreement with me about something I haven’t said.
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Lewis Hamilton on 22:03 - Sep 15 with 570 viewsCatullus

Lewis Hamilton on 21:58 - Sep 15 by Jack11

Great, another one. I didn’t bring his colour into it though did I? That was done before I said anything. Green credentials have nothing to do with the context I was using. Secondly, have I anywhere defended Hamilton the bloke? Nope, so you’re engineering a disagreement with me about something I haven’t said.


Actually you suggested people were only having a go at Hamilton because he's black. You know, when you said we wouldn't have a go at Coulthard or Button because they are white. You very much brought colour into it.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Lewis Hamilton on 22:05 - Sep 15 with 566 viewsJack11

Lewis Hamilton on 22:03 - Sep 15 by Catullus

Actually you suggested people were only having a go at Hamilton because he's black. You know, when you said we wouldn't have a go at Coulthard or Button because they are white. You very much brought colour into it.


No I did not. Read it all again. I contributed to a thread that already had his colour bought into it. Don’t be selective.
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Lewis Hamilton on 22:07 - Sep 15 with 561 viewsKerouac

Lewis Hamilton on 21:58 - Sep 15 by Jack11

Great, another one. I didn’t bring his colour into it though did I? That was done before I said anything. Green credentials have nothing to do with the context I was using. Secondly, have I anywhere defended Hamilton the bloke? Nope, so you’re engineering a disagreement with me about something I haven’t said.


As Cat pointed out, you brought colour into it.

I only posted in response to a point you made that Button and Coulthard are judged by different standards because of their skin colour.
I pointed out that they aren't being criticised for not paying tax whilst living in Monaco because they didn't dabble in UK politics whilst they did so.
Colour had nothing to do with it.


Having read on now I can see that a few posters pointed this out to you, it really shouldn't need explaining.

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Lewis Hamilton on 22:15 - Sep 15 with 545 viewsKerouac

Lewis Hamilton on 22:05 - Sep 15 by Jack11

No I did not. Read it all again. I contributed to a thread that already had his colour bought into it. Don’t be selective.


If you are referring to Andy's previous comment about Hamilton being mixed race and living a lifestyle that some would associate with "White privilege" (I believe his tongue was in his cheek)....well, Hamilton supports BLM and has been very public about it. BLM talks about White privilege.
Nothing racist about what Andy posted, he is just pointing out the facts and the hypocrisy.

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Lewis Hamilton on 22:16 - Sep 15 with 544 viewsJack11

Lewis Hamilton on 22:07 - Sep 15 by Kerouac

As Cat pointed out, you brought colour into it.

I only posted in response to a point you made that Button and Coulthard are judged by different standards because of their skin colour.
I pointed out that they aren't being criticised for not paying tax whilst living in Monaco because they didn't dabble in UK politics whilst they did so.
Colour had nothing to do with it.


Having read on now I can see that a few posters pointed this out to you, it really shouldn't need explaining.


No I most definitely didn’t say they’re judged by different standards. Look, this whole rewriting what I haven’t written thing is pretty boring so I’ll leave it there.
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Lewis Hamilton on 22:17 - Sep 15 with 540 viewsKerouac

Lewis Hamilton on 16:54 - Sep 15 by Jack11

Great sportsman, probably the best racing driver ever. Oh yeah and Coulthard and Button did the Monaco thing too, but they’re white so it won’t be mentioned.


Here.

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Lewis Hamilton on 22:34 - Sep 15 with 527 viewsCatullus

Lewis Hamilton on 22:05 - Sep 15 by Jack11

No I did not. Read it all again. I contributed to a thread that already had his colour bought into it. Don’t be selective.


"Great sportsman, probably the best racing driver ever. Oh yeah and Coulthard and Button did the Monaco thing too, but they’re white so it won’t be mentioned"

The above is what you said, exactly what you said. Tell me that doesn't suggest we're being racist because we wouldn't say anything about Coutlhard or Button, because "THEY'RE WHITE SO IT WON'T BE MENTIONED"

To others on here it very much reads that we are only having a go at Hamilton because he's black which is definitely not the case.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Lewis Hamilton on 23:26 - Sep 15 with 516 viewsDr_Parnassus

Lewis Hamilton on 16:54 - Sep 15 by Jack11

Great sportsman, probably the best racing driver ever. Oh yeah and Coulthard and Button did the Monaco thing too, but they’re white so it won’t be mentioned.


Are Coulthard and Button currently pushing a lie regarding the oppression of black people then? Are they demanding all racist symbols be destroyed while wearing one on their heads and taking millions from another?

If so show me and I will also call them hypocrites, moronic ones too.

The race of the hypocrite doesn’t come into it.

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Lewis Hamilton on 08:50 - Sep 16 with 477 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Glad to see the cricketers are no longer taking the knee. They did for a the west indies series but now is the time to stop. Mike holding trying to bully them to start again.

Just wish the footballers would stop. They have been doing it for months now. How long are they going to keep doing it for?

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Lewis Hamilton on 09:01 - Sep 16 with 475 viewsDr_Parnassus

Lewis Hamilton on 08:50 - Sep 16 by felixstowe_jack

Glad to see the cricketers are no longer taking the knee. They did for a the west indies series but now is the time to stop. Mike holding trying to bully them to start again.

Just wish the footballers would stop. They have been doing it for months now. How long are they going to keep doing it for?


Until they feel they can stop and not lose public virtue points.

Probably when enough people realise that BLM is absolutely nothing remotely to do with race. Getting there but not quite yet.

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Lewis Hamilton on 09:05 - Sep 16 with 473 viewsonehunglow

Correct me if Im wrong,"greatest racing driver ever". I ll take a minute...


Right.If that is meant for Hamilton,you are nuts.

Fangio
Moss
Senna
Prost
Ascari
Clark

All IMO better especially regarding Fangio as he won 5 with different cars as opposed to Lewis driving a car so superior in every way. Same with Schumacher with his Ferrari.

A for entertaining driver,study Stirling Moss oeuvre as that was the most charismatic driver ever. Hamilton is a parody ,a hypocrite and a very good driver.

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Lewis Hamilton on 09:17 - Sep 16 with 467 viewsCatullus

Lewis Hamilton on 09:05 - Sep 16 by onehunglow

Correct me if Im wrong,"greatest racing driver ever". I ll take a minute...


Right.If that is meant for Hamilton,you are nuts.

Fangio
Moss
Senna
Prost
Ascari
Clark

All IMO better especially regarding Fangio as he won 5 with different cars as opposed to Lewis driving a car so superior in every way. Same with Schumacher with his Ferrari.

A for entertaining driver,study Stirling Moss oeuvre as that was the most charismatic driver ever. Hamilton is a parody ,a hypocrite and a very good driver.


Moss, regularly called the greatest driver never to have won the championship.

I won't say Hamilton isn't a great driver but today the cars can be very different to back in Moss's day, across the teams I mean. Back then the cars were much more basic and very similar. Today an average driver has a great chance if he's in the right car.

Put them all in the same cars, exactly the same and then make them race, then we'd see. At the moment it's not really about the best driver but about the best team.

That said, the history books are going to show that Hamilton was the most succesful driver of all time, i'm pretty confident of that.

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Lewis Hamilton on 09:37 - Sep 16 with 456 viewsonehunglow

Fair riposte but when ever anyone calls any sportsman the greatest,there is always conjecture.
Splitting hairs and going off topic for a sec,greatest heavyweight boxer always caues friction and debate.

Difference for me between greatest boxer (Ali) and champion (Dempsey)

Back on topic,in identical cars,I would say Moss/Fangio-all day long as greatest drivers. People need to imagine Hamilton driving in the Mille Miglia in a typical car of the time with the lask of protective personal equipment and cars that were basically death traps

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Lewis Hamilton on 22:59 - Sep 16 with 416 viewsVincent_Vega

Lewis Hamilton on 09:17 - Sep 16 by Catullus

Moss, regularly called the greatest driver never to have won the championship.

I won't say Hamilton isn't a great driver but today the cars can be very different to back in Moss's day, across the teams I mean. Back then the cars were much more basic and very similar. Today an average driver has a great chance if he's in the right car.

Put them all in the same cars, exactly the same and then make them race, then we'd see. At the moment it's not really about the best driver but about the best team.

That said, the history books are going to show that Hamilton was the most succesful driver of all time, i'm pretty confident of that.


I do think Hamilton is one of the all time greats. I was partial to Schumacher back in the day. I thought he was awesome as a driver and got a lot of unfair criticism during his career. Senna Tw@ts Prost in Japan to win the title, legend. Schumacher does it to Hill in 94. A$$hole. Must be because hill was a Brit. He wasn’t perfect by any stretch (Juarez 97 and Austria 01??) and yes like LH had by far the best car and was THE no 1.

Lewis does great in qualy and is very good in the rain but he is rarely challenged. Bottas is pish and there’s no Team remotely close to merc. Only time he was properly challenged in 16 he was beaten narrowly. Also one thing that skews the records is that in schumis day there were less races compared to the 21ish a season nowadays. Hence the records tumbling

Oh and Lewis comes across as a right div in matters outside the sport but that’s my opinion.
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Lewis Hamilton on 17:16 - Sep 17 with 376 viewsbritferry

as posted by Kimi Raikkonen

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Lewis Hamilton on 17:21 - Sep 17 with 375 viewsbritferry

Lewis Hamilton on 09:37 - Sep 16 by onehunglow

Fair riposte but when ever anyone calls any sportsman the greatest,there is always conjecture.
Splitting hairs and going off topic for a sec,greatest heavyweight boxer always caues friction and debate.

Difference for me between greatest boxer (Ali) and champion (Dempsey)

Back on topic,in identical cars,I would say Moss/Fangio-all day long as greatest drivers. People need to imagine Hamilton driving in the Mille Miglia in a typical car of the time with the lask of protective personal equipment and cars that were basically death traps


Jim Clark, greatest by a country mile... just look up what he did at Monza in '67

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