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President Donald Trump said that while President Abraham Lincoln – who freed Blacks from slavery during the Civil War while also saving the Union – did some good, the "end result" is "always questionable."
"I think I've done more for the Black community than any other president, and let's take a pass on Abraham Lincoln," Trump told Fox News' Harris Faulkner, who is Black.
Trump's interview came nearly three weeks after the death of a black man, George Floyd, after a white Minneapolis cop kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes ignited protests nationwide.
President Donald Trump said that while President Abraham Lincoln – who freed Blacks from slavery during the Civil War while also saving the Union – did some good, the "end result" is "always questionable."
"I think I've done more for the Black community than any other president, and let's take a pass on Abraham Lincoln," Trump told Fox News' Harris Faulkner, who is Black.
Trump's interview came nearly three weeks after the death of a black man, George Floyd, after a white Minneapolis cop kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes ignited protests nationwide.
Looks like old Abe is back !!
You might not know abraham Lincoln actually said the blacks were an inferior race to the whites. He was just as racist as most people in the USA at the time. He was more concerned with keeping the USA intact and he certainly did not agree with equal rights for the black population. He just thought freeing them would keep the USA as one country.
You might not know abraham Lincoln actually said the blacks were an inferior race to the whites. He was just as racist as most people in the USA at the time. He was more concerned with keeping the USA intact and he certainly did not agree with equal rights for the black population. He just thought freeing them would keep the USA as one country.
I'd read that. Freeing the slaves was a tactic to destabilise the south, many slaves ran away and of course eventually there were black regiments (have you ever seen "Glory"?) and of course there were people like Harriet Tubman, her story recently made into a film.
Ol Abe only really wanted to enforce the union on all of America, he's not the abolitionist legend many think him to be.
I'd read that. Freeing the slaves was a tactic to destabilise the south, many slaves ran away and of course eventually there were black regiments (have you ever seen "Glory"?) and of course there were people like Harriet Tubman, her story recently made into a film.
Ol Abe only really wanted to enforce the union on all of America, he's not the abolitionist legend many think him to be.
But didn't he also say “Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” or "I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume VII, "Letter to Albert G. Hodges" (April 4, 1864), p. 281.
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"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
But didn't he also say “Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” or "I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume VII, "Letter to Albert G. Hodges" (April 4, 1864), p. 281.
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It's probably possible to be anti something as an institution without being overly sympathetic to the victims of it. No doubt blacks (or non-whites in general) were still seen as inferior, even if not deserving of slavery.
Then again slavery as a concept has been around for tens of thousands of years and still exists in forms today. It's deeply grained in human nature for some poor bastard to be under the thumb somewhere.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
It's probably possible to be anti something as an institution without being overly sympathetic to the victims of it. No doubt blacks (or non-whites in general) were still seen as inferior, even if not deserving of slavery.
Then again slavery as a concept has been around for tens of thousands of years and still exists in forms today. It's deeply grained in human nature for some poor bastard to be under the thumb somewhere.
It's also possible Lincoln was only saying what was politically expedient at the time. After all if the slaves had thought they were only pawns in a game would they have flocked to Lincolns banner?
But didn't he also say “Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” or "I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong. I can not remember when I did not so think, and feel." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume VII, "Letter to Albert G. Hodges" (April 4, 1864), p. 281.
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He did Indeed. He was the ultimate politician but I believe a very, very good man. He had a habit of taking political opponents that he had just beaten in elections and putting them in positions of influence in his administration. He believed in keeping his friends close and his enemies even closer.
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I'd read that. Freeing the slaves was a tactic to destabilise the south, many slaves ran away and of course eventually there were black regiments (have you ever seen "Glory"?) and of course there were people like Harriet Tubman, her story recently made into a film.
Ol Abe only really wanted to enforce the union on all of America, he's not the abolitionist legend many think him to be.
Glory, now that’s a film worth watching.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Yes. That’s right. I thought Matthew Broderick was also good as Shaw. The basic story is correct but there are a few ‘embellishments’.
I love the Ken Burns ‘Civil War’ series, much of the narrative of that is based on letters.
They always embellish but some stories just don't need it.
I've seen that the 54th didn't attack alone, they had 2 other regiments for support. There are other things and apparently they cut a lot out to try and avoid it becoming a "white saviour" film.
Wasn't it, in part, based on Robert Gough Shaw's letters home? A very good film with some great actors, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington.
I can't quite get my head around how old Denzel Washington is now. He's 65 FFS. I still think of him as in his 40's.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
I'd read that. Freeing the slaves was a tactic to destabilise the south, many slaves ran away and of course eventually there were black regiments (have you ever seen "Glory"?) and of course there were people like Harriet Tubman, her story recently made into a film.
Ol Abe only really wanted to enforce the union on all of America, he's not the abolitionist legend many think him to be.
Many slaves were run to freedom in the north by welsh clergymen, who shared their faith. Fantastic.
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