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What is the problem with people 17:07 - Dec 29 with 2202 viewsNotLoyal

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wa
This is today, it’s pathetic.

OK I've changed it.
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What is the problem with people on 22:40 - Dec 29 with 791 viewsBoundy

What is the problem with people on 22:23 - Dec 29 by onehunglow

Bouncy.
We don’t even have the guts to enforce mask wearing .


That's another debate, but when some yokel from Pontypridd thinks its ok to travel to Pen y fan because its local "Most people I know are staying quite local, within half-hour, an hour's drive. No one is really going much further than that." even on on our antiquated road system at 50 mph you're really testing the boundaries of common sense if you think 50 miles is local

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What is the problem with people on 23:28 - Dec 29 with 755 viewsKeithHaynes

Our municipality, about the size of Bridgend had police on all roads in to the town yesterday. Anyone without good cause like work or medical treatment were arrested. 23 locked up this morning for seven days. Happy new year.

The roads were pretty empty today and our local Covid numbers continue to fall, that is for what it’s worth. Nothing is perfect but it wouldn’t happen in the U.K., so people will continue to die.

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What is the problem with people on 23:44 - Dec 29 with 744 viewsmajorraglan

What is the problem with people on 23:28 - Dec 29 by KeithHaynes

Our municipality, about the size of Bridgend had police on all roads in to the town yesterday. Anyone without good cause like work or medical treatment were arrested. 23 locked up this morning for seven days. Happy new year.

The roads were pretty empty today and our local Covid numbers continue to fall, that is for what it’s worth. Nothing is perfect but it wouldn’t happen in the U.K., so people will continue to die.


That’s a pretty impressive response, sends out a strong clear message and that’s exactly what we need to do, but we won’t. If our hospitals get over run and the media run harrowing scenes of exile suffering in corridors etc, Boris, Drakers, Sturgeon etc May change tact, but they’d need to make an example of the likes of Piers Corbin etc.
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What is the problem with people on 02:13 - Dec 30 with 735 viewsDJack

What is the problem with people on 20:51 - Dec 29 by Boundy

I'm guessing the labour voters of Swansea have no responsibility to them selves or others . I'm not sure which devolved government you're referring to but when Drakeford decides to confuse the issue by creating our "special Welsh" lockdown control measures then imo its just a political pint scoring exercise .he wants to be a leader then lead and that goes for the clown at Westminster in equal terms .


Whilst you are replying to a point of mine I will ask again "In what way was I being a nob? "

And as to your most current whargarble... Did you not note my usage of the phrase "Some of it is down to"?

Please answer both of my comments if you would.

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What is the problem with people on 10:01 - Dec 30 with 672 viewsKeithHaynes

What is the problem with people on 23:44 - Dec 29 by majorraglan

That’s a pretty impressive response, sends out a strong clear message and that’s exactly what we need to do, but we won’t. If our hospitals get over run and the media run harrowing scenes of exile suffering in corridors etc, Boris, Drakers, Sturgeon etc May change tact, but they’d need to make an example of the likes of Piers Corbin etc.


No country is perfect and in the north which is 800 kms away they do have some problems still.
Here, it seems everyone, in the main, wants to be a part of getting rid of the virus by conforming, not something Andalusian people are noted for. But having an ice rink full of dead bodies eight months ago tends to concentrate the mind.

However, there is one other thing which is often talked about here and thats bringing embarrassment to the family, especially grandparents. It may sound weird but very few of the younger generation would want their community talking about them in a negative way, obviously except a few, there is always a few.

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What is the problem with people on 10:03 - Dec 30 with 668 viewsonehunglow

What is the problem with people on 10:01 - Dec 30 by KeithHaynes

No country is perfect and in the north which is 800 kms away they do have some problems still.
Here, it seems everyone, in the main, wants to be a part of getting rid of the virus by conforming, not something Andalusian people are noted for. But having an ice rink full of dead bodies eight months ago tends to concentrate the mind.

However, there is one other thing which is often talked about here and thats bringing embarrassment to the family, especially grandparents. It may sound weird but very few of the younger generation would want their community talking about them in a negative way, obviously except a few, there is always a few.


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What is the problem with people on 19:12 - Dec 30 with 606 viewsCatullus

What is the problem with people on 20:09 - Dec 29 by DJack

I understood your point I was trying to lighten the mood as the stupid people are not going to suddenly see sense because you highlighted the isue.

Some of it is down to the lack of joined up thinking at national government level (That's YOU Bojo yout wat!) They've (the public) seen Jenryck and Cummings ignore the rules early doors, we've had the UK govt not working with the devolved governments and differeing approaches. The Tory "We'll save Christmas" promise that was an impossible one to keep and has lead to even more muddled and contradictory approach. The anti-lockdown morons who don't actually understabd the point of the lockdown and the "Covid is just like flu" idiots both of these pushing a fallacious message...

Put this all together and we have a national disaster.

Have a beer or two and do all that YOU can to protect yourself, your family and others. 👍


I totally agree with you about the governments, we needed one clear voice, one set of rules for everybody and a leader willing to what it takes. We had none of that. Devolution caused problems,we had Drakers and Sturgeon arguing, point scoring and doing something different just to be different. Now look where we are, look where Wales is.

It's a clusterflock.

We had a rave in Cardiff, a crowded Barry island, tourists at Pen Y fan.....we need a more Spanish reaction, lock these idiots up for a week or two. There won't be many in Celtic manor, put them in there, locked in their rooms with no tv. 2 meals a day and allowed out for an hour for exercise. Just taking their freedom away could send the message they need to hear.

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What is the problem with people on 10:14 - Dec 31 with 545 viewsonehunglow

Imagine the military on the streets enforcing lockdown in Penlan,Ely,Bootle,Stoke Newington,St Pauls .

We have a generation who get traumatised when told what to do

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What is the problem with people on 10:33 - Dec 31 with 536 viewsBoundy

What is the problem with people on 10:14 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Imagine the military on the streets enforcing lockdown in Penlan,Ely,Bootle,Stoke Newington,St Pauls .

We have a generation who get traumatised when told what to do


We don't need to go to those extremes. they can pass out fines for holding parties so why not fine the fools when found travelling hundreds of miles to climb a hill in the fog .but all they do is "advise" ,once the word got out that substantial fines were being handed out that may focus their attention .

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What is the problem with people on 11:13 - Dec 31 with 527 viewsonehunglow

Fines? And you think they'll pay them?

Nope, we need to treat these cretins as we should the virus-brutally.

We are a country that will not even challenged those who do not wear a mask.

Police do not challenge even but that will be a political decision by the Chiefs not to antagonise the populace ,even though it's killing them.

We have utterly fooked up.Each and every one of us in facing up to this reality.

Jeez,we have people demonstrating about being told to wear a mask

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What is the problem with people on 11:24 - Dec 31 with 525 viewsexhmrc1

What is the problem with people on 11:13 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Fines? And you think they'll pay them?

Nope, we need to treat these cretins as we should the virus-brutally.

We are a country that will not even challenged those who do not wear a mask.

Police do not challenge even but that will be a political decision by the Chiefs not to antagonise the populace ,even though it's killing them.

We have utterly fooked up.Each and every one of us in facing up to this reality.

Jeez,we have people demonstrating about being told to wear a mask


Fines are useless. People are using funding methods for others to pay them. Community service orders will be better. They will have to undertake them.
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What is the problem with people on 11:30 - Dec 31 with 524 viewscontroversial_jack

What is the problem with people on 10:14 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Imagine the military on the streets enforcing lockdown in Penlan,Ely,Bootle,Stoke Newington,St Pauls .

We have a generation who get traumatised when told what to do


The military have no jurisdiction or authority on British streets and they never will
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What is the problem with people on 11:34 - Dec 31 with 521 viewsNotLoyal

What is the problem with people on 11:30 - Dec 31 by controversial_jack

The military have no jurisdiction or authority on British streets and they never will


Are you sure ?

OK I've changed it.
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What is the problem with people on 14:03 - Dec 31 with 510 viewsBoundy

What is the problem with people on 11:30 - Dec 31 by controversial_jack

The military have no jurisdiction or authority on British streets and they never will


???? It was all a dream
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What is the problem with people on 14:29 - Dec 31 with 505 viewsBoundy

What is the problem with people on 11:13 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Fines? And you think they'll pay them?

Nope, we need to treat these cretins as we should the virus-brutally.

We are a country that will not even challenged those who do not wear a mask.

Police do not challenge even but that will be a political decision by the Chiefs not to antagonise the populace ,even though it's killing them.

We have utterly fooked up.Each and every one of us in facing up to this reality.

Jeez,we have people demonstrating about being told to wear a mask


No idea if they'll pay or not , but the guidance isn't working .In the summer they were confiscating vehicles etc , the will has to come from the politicians they set the policy .If people are too thick to realise what s going on then its about time the authorities took meaningful action instead of pussy footing around , we keep being told that that were in a crisis then act accordingly , I won't complain and I'm no lover of government nor the police

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What is the problem with people on 14:58 - Dec 31 with 494 viewsonehunglow

They won't pay.They never do.It's a lifestyle for shytes.Steal a car ,for example ,cause 5k worth of damage and not a cent paid in compenation.

Many people deliberately have nothing and therefore fines are meaningless.

Our legal leeches would have a field day anyway.


Military are there to assist the Police and will.

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What is the problem with people on 15:40 - Dec 31 with 479 viewsBoundy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-

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What is the problem with people on 16:51 - Dec 31 with 467 viewsonehunglow

Anyway,Boundy,good to argue the toss with you so before I get stuck into preparing a treat for my missus I wish you all good things next year.

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What is the problem with people on 16:53 - Dec 31 with 466 viewsBoundy

What is the problem with people on 16:51 - Dec 31 by onehunglow

Anyway,Boundy,good to argue the toss with you so before I get stuck into preparing a treat for my missus I wish you all good things next year.


and to you and yours , hopefully a better year ahead for all

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