| Farming deals post Brexit 08:52 - May 19 with 6268 views | Kilkennyjack |
Looks like trouble ahead .... Tory Govt split on Oz and NZ deals ...
Truss is just useless.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:16 - May 20 with 1358 views | Lohengrin |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 13:01 - May 20 by Professor |
Problem is as well Gwyn, is we are at least 40% short in domestic supply. But we have lost the idea that we need to utilise food and especially meat products as much as possible. People expect a 'clean' product in nice packaging-no bones, skin or gristly bits. Offal is seen as an anathema by many. We had a meal outlast weekend-I had Ox Tongue. How often do you see that? |
I’ve been rummaging about looking for this, I’m sat in the kitchen leafing through it as we speak. Perhaps I should post it off to the MAFF, they seem fresh out of ideas.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:24 - May 20 with 1331 views | Gwyn737 |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:16 - May 20 by Lohengrin |
I’ve been rummaging about looking for this, I’m sat in the kitchen leafing through it as we speak. Perhaps I should post it off to the MAFF, they seem fresh out of ideas.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:24 - May 20 with 1331 views | controversial_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 12:28 - May 20 by Professor |
Salmonella infections are more than five times higher in the US than UK. We reduced ours by 70% since the 1990s by controls in poultry production. |
Yes , it's why we don't need to refrigerate our eggs like they do. We also don't have to chlorine wash the chickens either. | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:25 - May 20 with 1330 views | Professor |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:16 - May 20 by Lohengrin |
I’ve been rummaging about looking for this, I’m sat in the kitchen leafing through it as we speak. Perhaps I should post it off to the MAFF, they seem fresh out of ideas.
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We can. The political and economic will is not there. And no doubt complaints about poly tunnels and why there are not courgettes, aubergines or tomatoes available in March. MAFF was killed off after foot and mouth in 2001. A negative connotation to the name.
The political and economic will. Sounds a familiar sentence Lohengrin | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:28 - May 20 with 1326 views | controversial_jack |
There's no money or profit to be made in self sufficiency. Countries need to trade to flourish | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:31 - May 20 with 1323 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:16 - May 20 by Lohengrin |
I’ve been rummaging about looking for this, I’m sat in the kitchen leafing through it as we speak. Perhaps I should post it off to the MAFF, they seem fresh out of ideas.
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What about the other 16 million Loh ?
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:37 - May 20 with 1322 views | Lohengrin |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:24 - May 20 by Gwyn737 |
Any pearls of wisdom in there, Loh? |
Interesting stuff, Gwyn. The RRA were early heralds preaching the benefits of the organic and free range. | |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:44 - May 20 with 1320 views | Lohengrin |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:31 - May 20 by Kilkennyjack |
What about the other 16 million Loh ?
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Doesn’t that just speak volumes about the sheer scale of the overpopulation problem?
That book was published about a decade before I was born, Lord alone knows what Britain’s population will be a decade after I’ve gone. It doesn’t bear thinking about. | |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:45 - May 20 with 1319 views | Lohengrin |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:28 - May 20 by controversial_jack |
There's no money or profit to be made in self sufficiency. Countries need to trade to flourish |
I think the Covid crisis has provided graphic illustration as to just how precarious an over-reliance on imports can be. | |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:52 - May 20 with 1314 views | controversial_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:45 - May 20 by Lohengrin |
I think the Covid crisis has provided graphic illustration as to just how precarious an over-reliance on imports can be. |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:56 - May 20 with 1313 views | Professor |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:24 - May 20 by controversial_jack |
Yes , it's why we don't need to refrigerate our eggs like they do. We also don't have to chlorine wash the chickens either. |
I would put eggs in the fridge-stops spoilage as they become more porous over time | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:24 - May 20 with 1283 views | controversial_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:56 - May 20 by Professor |
I would put eggs in the fridge-stops spoilage as they become more porous over time |
Chilling them makes them more porous. A chef told me not to do that. | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:37 - May 20 with 1278 views | Professor |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:24 - May 20 by controversial_jack |
Chilling them makes them more porous. A chef told me not to do that. |
He/she is wrong.
I know a little it about eggs and bacteria. | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:44 - May 20 with 1275 views | felixstowe_jack |
Or waiting for the EU to order our vaccines. Thankfully we left in Jan 2020 before the pandemic and were able to order our own vaccines. [Post edited 20 May 2021 17:12]
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 17:12 - May 20 with 1252 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:59 - May 20 by Professor |
Is there a pandemic coming again?  |
Sorry well spotted the numbers on my phone to close together. Good to have a reviewer I will amend. | |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 17:24 - May 20 with 1242 views | Gwyn737 |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:44 - May 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Or waiting for the EU to order our vaccines. Thankfully we left in Jan 2020 before the pandemic and were able to order our own vaccines. [Post edited 20 May 2021 17:12]
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The UK vaccination program was/is an undoubted success and is a good example of a Brexit benefit.
Using it as the same example when anyone points out a possible problem with Brexit isn’t a long term position. | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 18:17 - May 20 with 1229 views | Professor |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 17:12 - May 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Sorry well spotted the numbers on my phone to close together. Good to have a reviewer I will amend. |
Sorry-could not resist.
And thanks for the vaccine updates. We may disagree on politics but are in common there. | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 18:33 - May 20 with 1219 views | controversial_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 16:37 - May 20 by Professor |
He/she is wrong.
I know a little it about eggs and bacteria. |
I never refrigerate eggs, and often keep them until the expiry date and beyond | | | |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 22:05 - May 20 with 1177 views | Kilkennyjack |
Not just the farmers being shafted, of course ....
Well done Brexit. [Post edited 20 May 2021 22:06]
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 22:09 - May 20 with 1174 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 15:44 - May 20 by Lohengrin |
Doesn’t that just speak volumes about the sheer scale of the overpopulation problem?
That book was published about a decade before I was born, Lord alone knows what Britain’s population will be a decade after I’ve gone. It doesn’t bear thinking about. |
In 1850 the population of England was only 3 times that of Ireland.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 22:15 - May 20 with 1173 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 17:24 - May 20 by Gwyn737 |
The UK vaccination program was/is an undoubted success and is a good example of a Brexit benefit.
Using it as the same example when anyone points out a possible problem with Brexit isn’t a long term position. |
Its not a good example of any sort of Brexit benefit.
The UK vaccines were bought (largely from the EU) whilst still in the transitional period and subject to EU rules.
Those rules didn’t prevent the UK’s stockpiling.
Thankfully, the EU allowed export, unlike the UK which has still not exported.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 05:43 - May 21 with 1143 views | Kilkennyjack |
Now Frosty the No Man says Brexit deal is crap .....
Spoiler alert, Frosty himself signed the deal.
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 10:20 - May 21 with 1119 views | Kilkennyjack |
Gove - of course he is involved up to his neck ..... | |
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| Farming deals post Brexit on 11:24 - May 21 with 1107 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Farming deals post Brexit on 22:15 - May 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Its not a good example of any sort of Brexit benefit.
The UK vaccines were bought (largely from the EU) whilst still in the transitional period and subject to EU rules.
Those rules didn’t prevent the UK’s stockpiling.
Thankfully, the EU allowed export, unlike the UK which has still not exported.
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No vaccines were delivered while we were in the EU. We were able to order vaccines from anywhere in the world because we were no longer in the EU. That has allowed the UK to have one of the top three vaccination programmes in the World while the EU beauracrats and politicians are still arguing about who's fault their lack of vaccines is. Don't forget the EU broke the withdrawal agreement with two months of signing it as they banned vaccines from being move from the ROI to Ni both in the single market. A hasty retreat following international outrage particularly from the Irish government. Still none of the unelected bureaucrats were sacked for making this decision.
No evidence of any stockpiling as the UK government distributed all the vaccine it had throughout the UK. Drakeford did stockpile in cases Wales ran out but after press and TV outrage he soon changed his mind. [Post edited 21 May 2021 11:27]
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