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When is the UK taking back control ? 21:37 - Jul 20 with 4651 viewsKilkennyjack


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When is the UK taking back control ? on 08:52 - Jul 21 with 2714 viewsRonaldStump

So Bungle goes and gives the French 54 million smackeroonies!

You couldn't make it up

(He She Him)

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 09:42 - Jul 21 with 2701 viewsKilkennyjack



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When is the UK taking back control ? on 21:48 - Jul 21 with 2655 viewsfelixstowe_jack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 09:42 - Jul 21 by Kilkennyjack



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Not much you can do when France ships them out them dumps them in UK waters for the UK to rescue. Typical of the EU who are all in favour of free movement but won't grant asylum to the genuine refugees. Too many economic migrants who are mostly fit young men.

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 21:57 - Jul 21 with 2650 viewsAjack_Kerouac

When is the UK taking back control ? on 21:48 - Jul 21 by felixstowe_jack

Not much you can do when France ships them out them dumps them in UK waters for the UK to rescue. Typical of the EU who are all in favour of free movement but won't grant asylum to the genuine refugees. Too many economic migrants who are mostly fit young men.


They will keep coming as long as there are no real consequences for them personally for illegally entering the country.
If we did what Australia did and create a prison island off the coast where all illegal immigrants are redirected...and we guarantee that once you have been placed in that prison you will NEVER be granted asylum or citizenship...the flow of people would end within 12 months.


People say there is nothing you can do, it is a problem that can't be solved. It's bull. We just need some leadership with big enough balls to take the necessary steps and face down all the Lefties who will sling mud their way as a result.
A leader who is prepared to be 'the bad guy' in the short term in order to fix the long term problem.

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 23:30 - Jul 21 with 2614 viewsKilkennyjack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 08:52 - Jul 21 by RonaldStump

So Bungle goes and gives the French 54 million smackeroonies!

You couldn't make it up




Doh !

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 08:19 - Jul 22 with 2558 viewsItchySphincter

We used to have control. We decided to vote it all away.

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:13 - Jul 22 with 2530 viewsAjack_Kerouac

When is the UK taking back control ? on 08:19 - Jul 22 by ItchySphincter

We used to have control. We decided to vote it all away.


Are you trying to claim that there were no illegal immigrants pouring into the UK across the channel every day whilst we were in the EU.
Are you seriously claiming that?

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:16 - Jul 22 with 2529 viewsItchySphincter

When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:13 - Jul 22 by Ajack_Kerouac

Are you trying to claim that there were no illegal immigrants pouring into the UK across the channel every day whilst we were in the EU.
Are you seriously claiming that?


Did I say that?

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:25 - Jul 22 with 2524 viewsAjack_Kerouac

When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:16 - Jul 22 by ItchySphincter

Did I say that?


You said; "We used to have control..." yah-di-yah-di-yah-dah.


Do you know what? I am tired of these word games with Lefties.
You know what you said,
I know what you said,
Everyone reading knows what you said
...and everyone with a functioning brain, with a memory superior to a goldfish knows it's bull, right?

Right.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2021 10:27]

"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 11:34 - Jul 22 with 2502 viewsCatullus

I watched the news last night, they had a report from a boat mid channel. They were looking for people trying to cross illegally. At ome point they saw a dinghy being shadowed by a French naval/border control vessel, the ship seemed to be following the dinghy, escorting it out of French waters into UK waters. Isn't that against the agreements?

Why are we giving France money to help stem the flow when France seems to be enabling the illegal immigrants. It's tantamount to helping the people smugglers.

I couldn't agree to a "prison island" but hardly any of the illegal immigrants are being deported. That needs to change. Unless they can show they are genuine refugees they should be returned.
Maybe our border control vessels need to start towing these dinghys back to the French coast? Maybe our embassies in France needs to have offices where refugees can apply to the Uk for asylum and we tell the world anybody who arrives illegally on our coastline will be sent back, genuine refugee or not?

Or maybe there never will be an answer as long as the countries these people come from are being destroyed by wars and poverty. Maybe Europe (all of it not just the UK) is paying the price for its colonialist past?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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When is the UK taking back control ? on 12:44 - Jul 22 with 2478 viewsItchySphincter

When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:25 - Jul 22 by Ajack_Kerouac

You said; "We used to have control..." yah-di-yah-di-yah-dah.


Do you know what? I am tired of these word games with Lefties.
You know what you said,
I know what you said,
Everyone reading knows what you said
...and everyone with a functioning brain, with a memory superior to a goldfish knows it's bull, right?

Right.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2021 10:27]


Looking for meaning in words I haven't written?

Have a day off.

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 13:01 - Jul 22 with 2471 viewsKilkennyjack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 11:34 - Jul 22 by Catullus

I watched the news last night, they had a report from a boat mid channel. They were looking for people trying to cross illegally. At ome point they saw a dinghy being shadowed by a French naval/border control vessel, the ship seemed to be following the dinghy, escorting it out of French waters into UK waters. Isn't that against the agreements?

Why are we giving France money to help stem the flow when France seems to be enabling the illegal immigrants. It's tantamount to helping the people smugglers.

I couldn't agree to a "prison island" but hardly any of the illegal immigrants are being deported. That needs to change. Unless they can show they are genuine refugees they should be returned.
Maybe our border control vessels need to start towing these dinghys back to the French coast? Maybe our embassies in France needs to have offices where refugees can apply to the Uk for asylum and we tell the world anybody who arrives illegally on our coastline will be sent back, genuine refugee or not?

Or maybe there never will be an answer as long as the countries these people come from are being destroyed by wars and poverty. Maybe Europe (all of it not just the UK) is paying the price for its colonialist past?


Yep - the West created these problems by creating wars across the islamic world.

Telling Europe to feck off with Brexit, might not have been the best wAy of ensuring their meaningful help.

Its almost like working together on global issues makes sense.

Brexidiots have been duped.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2021 13:02]

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 14:20 - Jul 22 with 2448 viewsmajorraglan

When is the UK taking back control ? on 11:34 - Jul 22 by Catullus

I watched the news last night, they had a report from a boat mid channel. They were looking for people trying to cross illegally. At ome point they saw a dinghy being shadowed by a French naval/border control vessel, the ship seemed to be following the dinghy, escorting it out of French waters into UK waters. Isn't that against the agreements?

Why are we giving France money to help stem the flow when France seems to be enabling the illegal immigrants. It's tantamount to helping the people smugglers.

I couldn't agree to a "prison island" but hardly any of the illegal immigrants are being deported. That needs to change. Unless they can show they are genuine refugees they should be returned.
Maybe our border control vessels need to start towing these dinghys back to the French coast? Maybe our embassies in France needs to have offices where refugees can apply to the Uk for asylum and we tell the world anybody who arrives illegally on our coastline will be sent back, genuine refugee or not?

Or maybe there never will be an answer as long as the countries these people come from are being destroyed by wars and poverty. Maybe Europe (all of it not just the UK) is paying the price for its colonialist past?


Short of puncturing the people smugglers boats before they depart there’s not a great deal we can do. We are paying the French, but they aren’t doing a great deal. The French won’t take the refugees back as we are out of the EU and they aren’t obliged too. Our embassies could do this and do process some asylum claims, but the validity of some of the applications being made could be questionable and are highly likely to be rejected which is why they try to arrive here in person.

Can’t argue with the last point, especially when the actions of the developed world are partly responsible for the issues.
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When is the UK taking back control ? on 15:28 - Jul 22 with 2428 viewsCatullus

When is the UK taking back control ? on 13:01 - Jul 22 by Kilkennyjack

Yep - the West created these problems by creating wars across the islamic world.

Telling Europe to feck off with Brexit, might not have been the best wAy of ensuring their meaningful help.

Its almost like working together on global issues makes sense.

Brexidiots have been duped.
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You don't need to be in the EU to cooperate, the UN should be doing something and we are all in that.

Many countries are not in the EU but cooperate, the EU is not global and in fact, was part of the problem for a while until, eventually, several individual member states railed against the rules and looked after themselves.

Question, what meaningful help did we get pre Brexit? Weren't we just told to take a bigger share of he problem?

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 15:30 - Jul 22 with 2427 viewsBarrySwan

When is the UK taking back control ? on 14:20 - Jul 22 by majorraglan

Short of puncturing the people smugglers boats before they depart there’s not a great deal we can do. We are paying the French, but they aren’t doing a great deal. The French won’t take the refugees back as we are out of the EU and they aren’t obliged too. Our embassies could do this and do process some asylum claims, but the validity of some of the applications being made could be questionable and are highly likely to be rejected which is why they try to arrive here in person.

Can’t argue with the last point, especially when the actions of the developed world are partly responsible for the issues.


Well what can be quite easily be done is to announce that any migrant who enters the UK other than though official channels will never be granted the right to stay here and all those detected having illegally entered the country will be jailed for a period before being immediately deported.

Starting with those who have already travelled here in a dinghy over the channel

I really don't see whats difficult about that.
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When is the UK taking back control ? on 16:13 - Jul 22 with 2414 viewsmajorraglan

When is the UK taking back control ? on 15:30 - Jul 22 by BarrySwan

Well what can be quite easily be done is to announce that any migrant who enters the UK other than though official channels will never be granted the right to stay here and all those detected having illegally entered the country will be jailed for a period before being immediately deported.

Starting with those who have already travelled here in a dinghy over the channel

I really don't see whats difficult about that.


It’s not straight forward and it’s not as straight forward as you say. Some countries completely refuse to accept their citizens back. A country which is a 1 party state, where the state controls the media, has a strong influence on everyday life may not want a citizen who’s seen the wider world and the freedoms available elsewhere retiring and becoming a disruptive influence within the wider community and if there’s any prospect of the citizen being jailed after returning there no chance of a deportation taking place. It’s doesn't help that our border enforcement has been rubbish for decades.
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When is the UK taking back control ? on 16:20 - Jul 22 with 2405 viewsKilkennyjack



Great question .. ?? 😂

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 17:23 - Jul 22 with 2387 viewsKilkennyjack



Found him ….

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 19:47 - Jul 22 with 2345 viewsGwyn737

When is the UK taking back control ? on 10:25 - Jul 22 by Ajack_Kerouac

You said; "We used to have control..." yah-di-yah-di-yah-dah.


Do you know what? I am tired of these word games with Lefties.
You know what you said,
I know what you said,
Everyone reading knows what you said
...and everyone with a functioning brain, with a memory superior to a goldfish knows it's bull, right?

Right.
[Post edited 22 Jul 2021 10:27]


I think it’s more that prior to leaving the EU, Mr. Farage spent a lot of time in the south coast, pointing out so sea looking a mixture of angry/sad/wistful etc.

He and his ilk don’t seem bothered any more which is surprising due to the record numbers crossing.
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When is the UK taking back control ? on 20:33 - Jul 22 with 2325 viewsKilkennyjack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 19:47 - Jul 22 by Gwyn737

I think it’s more that prior to leaving the EU, Mr. Farage spent a lot of time in the south coast, pointing out so sea looking a mixture of angry/sad/wistful etc.

He and his ilk don’t seem bothered any more which is surprising due to the record numbers crossing.


Exactly.

Its almost like tax considerations for rich folk was the real reason for Brexit after all.
Who would have thunk it ?

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 00:15 - Jul 23 with 2261 viewsSlugster664

When is the UK taking back control ? on 20:33 - Jul 22 by Kilkennyjack

Exactly.

Its almost like tax considerations for rich folk was the real reason for Brexit after all.
Who would have thunk it ?


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When is the UK taking back control ? on 07:54 - Jul 23 with 2217 viewsfelixstowe_jack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 20:33 - Jul 22 by Kilkennyjack

Exactly.

Its almost like tax considerations for rich folk was the real reason for Brexit after all.
Who would have thunk it ?


As opposed the the real reason the UK voters were fed up of unelected undemocratic EU commissioners who never faced an election and are in the until they have enough of a pension pot to retire in luxury.

The uk voters decided it was time to leave and regain all the powers that the EU had grabbed. These powers have returned the the democratic UK government 🇬🇧

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 15:30 - Jul 23 with 2153 viewsKilkennyjack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 07:54 - Jul 23 by felixstowe_jack

As opposed the the real reason the UK voters were fed up of unelected undemocratic EU commissioners who never faced an election and are in the until they have enough of a pension pot to retire in luxury.

The uk voters decided it was time to leave and regain all the powers that the EU had grabbed. These powers have returned the the democratic UK government 🇬🇧


Here is the thing right …. The UK FPTP system is clearly undemocratic.

The 2019 United Kingdom general election was held on Thursday, 12 December 2019. It resulted in the Conservative Party receiving a landslide majority of 80 seats.
The Conservatives made a net gain of 48 seats and won just 43.6% of the popular vote.

So more people voted for tbe other candidates but the Tory party get a Brexit landslide.
The ‘oven ready deal’ ….

The UK is in no position to point fingers.

Btw - keith down the pub knows nothing of EU voting and elected officials, keith is just upset that Ahmed the neuro-surgeon has got his job. Migrants see, coming over here …..

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 16:13 - Jul 23 with 2139 viewsfelixstowe_jack

When is the UK taking back control ? on 15:30 - Jul 23 by Kilkennyjack

Here is the thing right …. The UK FPTP system is clearly undemocratic.

The 2019 United Kingdom general election was held on Thursday, 12 December 2019. It resulted in the Conservative Party receiving a landslide majority of 80 seats.
The Conservatives made a net gain of 48 seats and won just 43.6% of the popular vote.

So more people voted for tbe other candidates but the Tory party get a Brexit landslide.
The ‘oven ready deal’ ….

The UK is in no position to point fingers.

Btw - keith down the pub knows nothing of EU voting and elected officials, keith is just upset that Ahmed the neuro-surgeon has got his job. Migrants see, coming over here …..


As opposed to senedd.where labour gained a majority with only 37.5% of the vote.

Can you also tell me what is democratic about the appointment of all the EU commissioners none of whom faced the ballot box or can be voted our. How is it democratic for the president of the EU Commission to gain power without an elected and endorsed by the EU Parliament who were given a short list of one


Can you please answer the question how is it democratic to be ruled by unelected beauracrats?

Regardless of your views all our MPs were voted to the UK Parliament under a democratic process where everyone adult had the right to vote.

The UK also had a democratic referendum where every adult had the right to vote. They voted to leave the EU. Respect the outcome of democratic elections even if it is the wrong result for you . Don't throw your toys out of the pram.

In ROi they voted to reject the treaty of Lisbon and were told to vote again by the EU until they accepted it. How is that democracy?

Meanwhile in Poland the dispute between them and the EU continues. Does the Polish parliament have the final say or does the EU.

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When is the UK taking back control ? on 16:28 - Jul 23 with 2134 viewsBoundy

When is the UK taking back control ? on 17:23 - Jul 22 by Kilkennyjack



Found him ….


Another Irishman who doesn't live up to his promises , no surprise I suppose

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