| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid 10:29 - Sep 12 with 3185 views | RonaldStump |
The truth is coming
The corrupt government are losing the battle
Good
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ [Post edited 12 Sep 2021 10:30]
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:04 - Sep 14 with 780 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 11:51 - Sep 14 by jackrmee |
"The 28 days is arbitrary-people will die of other causes and others (obviously others) of the effects of Covid later than that"
I agree that people will still die of other causes, but apparently not one person has in Germany after having the vaccine.
Not one! |
Only 0.5% of deaths in the UK occur in fully vaccinated people who tested positive 14 days after receiving their second dose. That's 256 people out of more than 51,000 deaths.
The UK has had 7.25 million covid cases and Germany 4 million.
So that stat about Germany may well be correct, the vaccines are absolutely brilliant.
The only reason I say "may well be" is because the stat is taken from Twitter. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:25 - Sep 14 with 764 views | jackrmee |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:04 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
Only 0.5% of deaths in the UK occur in fully vaccinated people who tested positive 14 days after receiving their second dose. That's 256 people out of more than 51,000 deaths.
The UK has had 7.25 million covid cases and Germany 4 million.
So that stat about Germany may well be correct, the vaccines are absolutely brilliant.
The only reason I say "may well be" is because the stat is taken from Twitter. |
But the death stats are not "14 days after their second dose", they are 28 days after a positive test result.
Or at least, they were. |  |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:59 - Sep 14 with 742 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 23:19 - Sep 13 by Kilkennyjack |
Get the jab Jack Army.
Lets get back to normal with everybody protected. |
What vaccines are the Germans using and at what intervals are they giving the second jab? | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:32 - Sep 14 with 731 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:25 - Sep 14 by jackrmee |
But the death stats are not "14 days after their second dose", they are 28 days after a positive test result.
Or at least, they were. |
Yes but full benefits of the vaccine aren't seen until 14 days after the second jab, so those infections only represent those who caught covid after benefiting from the full protection of the vaccine. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:35 - Sep 14 with 727 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:04 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
Only 0.5% of deaths in the UK occur in fully vaccinated people who tested positive 14 days after receiving their second dose. That's 256 people out of more than 51,000 deaths.
The UK has had 7.25 million covid cases and Germany 4 million.
So that stat about Germany may well be correct, the vaccines are absolutely brilliant.
The only reason I say "may well be" is because the stat is taken from Twitter. |
256 out of 51,000 deaths.
Total bullshit statistics put out to impress the stupid.
We did not hit the first million Double vaccinated people until March 1st and at that point there were only 20 million single vaccinated, since then their have been a total of 12039 deaths from COVID. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 14:16 - Sep 14 with 715 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:35 - Sep 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
256 out of 51,000 deaths.
Total bullshit statistics put out to impress the stupid.
We did not hit the first million Double vaccinated people until March 1st and at that point there were only 20 million single vaccinated, since then their have been a total of 12039 deaths from COVID. |
Are they?
Death certificates stating date of birth, date of death and cause of death (amongst other things) are very easy to access, I expect conspiracy theorists to be debunking this statistic very, very soon, by today in all probability. Here and apaprently in Germany. If, of course, you are correct.
It wouldn't take a genius to work out if it was wrong very quickly.
By the way - we vaccinated the vulnerable first and were living under significant restrictions until the summer. The time frame that this statistic considers encompasses a minimum 6 weeks after anyone received their second dose, so when the first people were double vaccinated is immaterial, it is based on the individual.
I would suggest that the only stupid people reading those stats are those that havent been vaccinated. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 14:41 - Sep 14 with 703 views | Professor |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 14:16 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
Are they?
Death certificates stating date of birth, date of death and cause of death (amongst other things) are very easy to access, I expect conspiracy theorists to be debunking this statistic very, very soon, by today in all probability. Here and apaprently in Germany. If, of course, you are correct.
It wouldn't take a genius to work out if it was wrong very quickly.
By the way - we vaccinated the vulnerable first and were living under significant restrictions until the summer. The time frame that this statistic considers encompasses a minimum 6 weeks after anyone received their second dose, so when the first people were double vaccinated is immaterial, it is based on the individual.
I would suggest that the only stupid people reading those stats are those that havent been vaccinated. |
Most deaths prior to late spring/early summer were Alpha variant, of which there was a high level of single dose protection to hospitalisation of death. Even against Delta a single dose still offers significant protection over unvaccinated. It seems a reasonable suggestion to me. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:19 - Sep 14 with 688 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 14:41 - Sep 14 by Professor |
Most deaths prior to late spring/early summer were Alpha variant, of which there was a high level of single dose protection to hospitalisation of death. Even against Delta a single dose still offers significant protection over unvaccinated. It seems a reasonable suggestion to me. |
Sorry, it just does not work.
By February 1st, there were less than 500,000 double vaccinated and 10 million single vaccinated, less than 1/6th of the population, as it takes 2 weeks for Immunity to be formed that means that less than half of them were effective by then.
From Feb 1st to now there were 27455 deaths, half the amount that were used.
Typical goverment style propoganda | | | |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:22 - Sep 14 with 685 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:19 - Sep 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
Sorry, it just does not work.
By February 1st, there were less than 500,000 double vaccinated and 10 million single vaccinated, less than 1/6th of the population, as it takes 2 weeks for Immunity to be formed that means that less than half of them were effective by then.
From Feb 1st to now there were 27455 deaths, half the amount that were used.
Typical goverment style propoganda |
That isn't what it is measuring though is it? | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:32 - Sep 14 with 681 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:22 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
That isn't what it is measuring though is it? |
What is it measuring exactly? | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:36 - Sep 14 with 678 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:32 - Sep 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
What is it measuring exactly? |
It's measuring the number of fully vaccinated people who have died. Fully vaccinated and receiving the full benefit of immunity.
It includes only those that died after first testing positive more than two weeks after their second dose.
As I've said, the stats are largely in the public domain. If it is BS to fool the stupid then it will soon ne clear. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:49 - Sep 14 with 676 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:36 - Sep 14 by Scotia |
It's measuring the number of fully vaccinated people who have died. Fully vaccinated and receiving the full benefit of immunity.
It includes only those that died after first testing positive more than two weeks after their second dose.
As I've said, the stats are largely in the public domain. If it is BS to fool the stupid then it will soon ne clear. |
No it is not it is using data of people who died before anybody was single or double vaccinated to boost the numbers of those who died. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:53 - Sep 14 with 670 views | Professor |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:19 - Sep 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
Sorry, it just does not work.
By February 1st, there were less than 500,000 double vaccinated and 10 million single vaccinated, less than 1/6th of the population, as it takes 2 weeks for Immunity to be formed that means that less than half of them were effective by then.
From Feb 1st to now there were 27455 deaths, half the amount that were used.
Typical goverment style propoganda |
The 14 days is just the full response-there will be a detectable antibody response in 5 days in most people. Almost impossible to say when protection kicks in without a challenge model. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 16:11 - Sep 14 with 653 views | Scotia |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 15:49 - Sep 14 by A_Fans_Dad |
No it is not it is using data of people who died before anybody was single or double vaccinated to boost the numbers of those who died. |
But that doesn't change the number of those who died after being fully vaccinated.
It's also using death figures from January, vaccination was underway then. I received my first dose on January 18th and second on March 3rd. I was as immune as I am going to be on March 17th.
The peak daily deaths were 6 weeks after that.
The success of the vaccines is absolutely clear. | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:33 - Sep 17 with 519 views | raynor94 |
Great news  |  |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:30 - Sep 17 with 471 views | RonaldStump |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 12:33 - Sep 17 by raynor94 |
Great news |
Make the most of it as it won't happen | |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:37 - Sep 17 with 462 views | Johnw102 |
Needed in Wales from 11/10/21 just in time for the S. Wales Derby.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news |  |
| Never knew getting old would happen so quick! |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:40 - Sep 17 with 458 views | controversial_jack |
Will have to leave the pub 10 mins earlier to get into the ground | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:42 - Sep 17 with 453 views | Jack123 |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:30 - Sep 17 by RonaldStump |
Make the most of it as it won't happen |
I'm not worried now, even if it does go ahead, and they are accepting self reported LFT tests.. 
I Have never taken a LFT test, but looking at how they work and how to get your details on to the pass, seems I only have to swab the grass out the back, get the QR code, or ID number printed on it, upload it, and hey presto.. I'm in. |  |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:46 - Sep 17 with 445 views | raynor94 |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:40 - Sep 17 by controversial_jack |
Will have to leave the pub 10 mins earlier to get into the ground |
Well you don't have to worry, you aren't attending matches | |
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| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:52 - Sep 17 with 433 views | controversial_jack |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:46 - Sep 17 by raynor94 |
Well you don't have to worry, you aren't attending matches |
Not until i see cases coming down consistently. Can't be gung ho with this virus, jabbed or not | | | |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 14:10 - Sep 17 with 419 views | raynor94 |
| Vaccine passport plans for nightclubs and events scrapped, confirms Sajid Javid on 13:52 - Sep 17 by controversial_jack |
Not until i see cases coming down consistently. Can't be gung ho with this virus, jabbed or not |
Don't be so daft mun, travel rules to change in England today, Wales will follow suit.
A week in Benidorm A/I November 2nd, £340! Bring it on  | |
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