| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc 17:14 - Nov 21 with 4080 views | onehunglow |
Not good is it.? |  |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 11:06 - Nov 24 with 687 views | Boundy |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:38 - Nov 22 by A_Fans_Dad |
I was referring to the statement.
"The German health minister saying that by the end of the winter, you'll either be vaccinated, recovered from covid or dead. " |
Well he must have been speaking about me , two out of 3 ain't bad | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 14:33 - Nov 24 with 632 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 11:04 - Nov 24 by Scotia |
If that were true we wouldn't be in the situation we are would we? |
That would depend on what you consider a "vast majority" doesn't it? | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 14:56 - Nov 24 with 621 views | Scotia |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 14:33 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
That would depend on what you consider a "vast majority" doesn't it? |
It would, but the statement was a "vast, vast majority".
Also this "unwell for a few days with a bit of a cough and then get over it" I know a lot of people who've had covid now. Very few have just had a bit of a cough for a few days, and they are mostly middle aged and fit. Most have reported severe fatigue for over a week, and they're vaccninated.
In some age groups over 10% of infections require hospital treatment, if they aren't vaccinated that is, I wouldn't refer to that as being the vast, vast majority having a cough for a couple of days and getting over it. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 15:29 - Nov 24 with 602 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 14:56 - Nov 24 by Scotia |
It would, but the statement was a "vast, vast majority".
Also this "unwell for a few days with a bit of a cough and then get over it" I know a lot of people who've had covid now. Very few have just had a bit of a cough for a few days, and they are mostly middle aged and fit. Most have reported severe fatigue for over a week, and they're vaccninated.
In some age groups over 10% of infections require hospital treatment, if they aren't vaccinated that is, I wouldn't refer to that as being the vast, vast majority having a cough for a couple of days and getting over it. |
What do you consider a "vast, vast majority", would you care to put a number on it? | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 15:55 - Nov 24 with 591 views | Scotia |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 15:29 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
What do you consider a "vast, vast majority", would you care to put a number on it? |
It's an idiom really isn't it.
But I'll play along and say a conservative estimate of 75%.
25% is a significant underestimate in my experience of knowing people with covid and them just having a cough and being better in a few days, and they happen to be vaccinated in most cases.
In fact I know one asymptomatic infection (who recently got reinfected) and one who only lost their smell (who happens to be obese). Aside from that I reckon I know 50 - 70 people who've been really quite ill at home (some of whom still suffer some effects today from wave 2 infections), another 5 who have ended up in hospital and 3 people who have died. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:04 - Nov 24 with 590 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:34 - Nov 23 by hobo |
The risks of covid are known. The risks of the vaccine are not.
I'd also prefer to get covid rather than the Vax. As of yet though I've had neither, despite travelling all over the world for the last 18 months!
Edit : unless you mean it's mad that they require a certificate to go places. In which case I'm in agreement with you [Post edited 23 Nov 2021 21:35]
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Fair enough. However if you’re unfortunate to catch it and be hospitalised how do you feel about taking up a bed that could be used for someone who had no choice in their health…eg someone suffering a cardiac illness or cancer.
I’ll leave it to the Professor to roll out the figures he does regularly to show evidence that the vaccines are having an effect on Covid. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:38 - Nov 24 with 566 views | hobo |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:04 - Nov 24 by Luther27 |
Fair enough. However if you’re unfortunate to catch it and be hospitalised how do you feel about taking up a bed that could be used for someone who had no choice in their health…eg someone suffering a cardiac illness or cancer.
I’ll leave it to the Professor to roll out the figures he does regularly to show evidence that the vaccines are having an effect on Covid. |
My immune system is unbelievable so that wouldn't happen.
By the same token we surely need to introduce mandatory exercise to keep the obese from filling up the hospital beds |  | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:45 - Nov 24 with 564 views | Scotia |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:38 - Nov 24 by hobo |
My immune system is unbelievable so that wouldn't happen.
By the same token we surely need to introduce mandatory exercise to keep the obese from filling up the hospital beds |
How about the people you give the virus to who may not have as an amazing immune system as yourself? | | | |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:54 - Nov 24 with 558 views | Professor |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:38 - Nov 24 by hobo |
My immune system is unbelievable so that wouldn't happen.
By the same token we surely need to introduce mandatory exercise to keep the obese from filling up the hospital beds |
Maybe not for SARS CoV2, but there will be something out there you are susceptible to. Immunogenetics is the strongest determinant of resistance/susceptiblity.
You only have six HLA alleles. You can't change that. You can't make your adaptive immune system have any more capacity than it already has. You can just maintain function. It will decrease with age, and there is nothing you can do about that. All downhill from 30. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 17:16 - Nov 24 with 552 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:54 - Nov 24 by Professor |
Maybe not for SARS CoV2, but there will be something out there you are susceptible to. Immunogenetics is the strongest determinant of resistance/susceptiblity.
You only have six HLA alleles. You can't change that. You can't make your adaptive immune system have any more capacity than it already has. You can just maintain function. It will decrease with age, and there is nothing you can do about that. All downhill from 30. |
That’s told him lol | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 17:40 - Nov 24 with 540 views | onehunglow |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:38 - Nov 24 by hobo |
My immune system is unbelievable so that wouldn't happen.
By the same token we surely need to introduce mandatory exercise to keep the obese from filling up the hospital beds |
Good point that. We are the fattest nation on Europe.
We take little exercise
Our kids are glued to their mobile
A time bomb ticking loud
About time Governents truly attacked this problem but they won’t as too much money in junk food .
How about restricting Fast Food outlets in deprived areas . | |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 19:43 - Nov 24 with 519 views | hobo |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:45 - Nov 24 by Scotia |
How about the people you give the virus to who may not have as an amazing immune system as yourself? |
I could ask the same thing to you! There's no difference. If we ever get covid we can both spread it!
If the vaccine masks your symptoms though, it could be argued that you'd be more likely to spread it as I'd be at home until it clears up | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 19:45 - Nov 24 with 517 views | hobo |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 16:54 - Nov 24 by Professor |
Maybe not for SARS CoV2, but there will be something out there you are susceptible to. Immunogenetics is the strongest determinant of resistance/susceptiblity.
You only have six HLA alleles. You can't change that. You can't make your adaptive immune system have any more capacity than it already has. You can just maintain function. It will decrease with age, and there is nothing you can do about that. All downhill from 30. |
Who knows?! And I'm well into my 30s.
It's not really worth worrying about though is it | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:07 - Nov 24 with 516 views | Scotia |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 19:43 - Nov 24 by hobo |
I could ask the same thing to you! There's no difference. If we ever get covid we can both spread it!
If the vaccine masks your symptoms though, it could be argued that you'd be more likely to spread it as I'd be at home until it clears up |
The vaccine reduces your chance of getting infected. Considerably for a while. As in you don't get the virus. At all.
If you haven't got something you can't give it to someone else. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:41 - Nov 24 with 507 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 19:43 - Nov 24 by hobo |
I could ask the same thing to you! There's no difference. If we ever get covid we can both spread it!
If the vaccine masks your symptoms though, it could be argued that you'd be more likely to spread it as I'd be at home until it clears up |
Must be getting bored now being at home for nigh on two years eh | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:43 - Nov 24 with 506 views | onehunglow |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 19:45 - Nov 24 by hobo |
Who knows?! And I'm well into my 30s.
It's not really worth worrying about though is it |
A kid then really. | |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:03 - Nov 24 with 490 views | hobo |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:41 - Nov 24 by Luther27 |
Must be getting bored now being at home for nigh on two years eh |
Like I said I've never had it so I've not had to stay inside | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:07 - Nov 24 with 488 views | hobo |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:07 - Nov 24 by Scotia |
The vaccine reduces your chance of getting infected. Considerably for a while. As in you don't get the virus. At all.
If you haven't got something you can't give it to someone else. |
That's plainly untrue! | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:29 - Nov 24 with 482 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:03 - Nov 24 by hobo |
Like I said I've never had it so I've not had to stay inside |
Lucky boy then. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:35 - Nov 24 with 475 views | Scotia |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:07 - Nov 24 by hobo |
That's plainly untrue! |
Prove it.
I can prove it is true.
Off you go. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:35 - Nov 24 with 475 views | onehunglow |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:07 - Nov 24 by hobo |
That's plainly untrue! |
Be lucky and don’t take it for granted you will survive COVID. Several chums of mine did not | |
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| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:49 - Nov 24 with 464 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 20:07 - Nov 24 by Scotia |
The vaccine reduces your chance of getting infected. Considerably for a while. As in you don't get the virus. At all.
If you haven't got something you can't give it to someone else. |
Yes that is why you are on your 3rd vaccination, because it works so well. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 22:02 - Nov 24 with 454 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 21:49 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes that is why you are on your 3rd vaccination, because it works so well. |
The booster is aimed at maintaining the bodies ability to fight Covid. Funnily enough we have a flu vaccine every year….if you believe in that sort of thing. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 22:59 - Nov 24 with 433 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 22:02 - Nov 24 by Luther27 |
The booster is aimed at maintaining the bodies ability to fight Covid. Funnily enough we have a flu vaccine every year….if you believe in that sort of thing. |
Yes every year, not 3 times a year.
You can see the difference I hope. | | | |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 23:32 - Nov 24 with 416 views | Luther27 |
| Riots about vaccines /lockdowna etc on 22:59 - Nov 24 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes every year, not 3 times a year.
You can see the difference I hope. |
Ah that old adage. Thank God you weren’t around to voice your opinions to Edward Jenner. | | | |
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