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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 09:23 - Oct 18 by controversial_jack
Depends on the testing and who reports it. Hospitalizations would drop if the virus weakened and many of the vulnerable have already been killed off.
There was no vaccine in 1918, yet that eventually weakened after 2 years
Going back to the beginning of the small pox jab in late 1700s. Even then, there was max inoculation programmes with very high uptake and yet it did nothing to stop further outbreaks and deaths. It look 200 years to get rid of smallpox
If we look back at mortality rates to over a century or more, we can see that mortality rates gradually decreased with a decline in poverty and an increase in living standards, and did not decline any quicker after vaccines were introduced. this is the case for almost every infectious disease.
The role of the vaccination has been far overplayed, when in fact the reason for improvements has been improved living standards and a decease in poverty.
I'm not in any way anti VAX, as i have had 3 jabs.I have had COVID twice, once before the jab and once after. It was milder after, but omicron was weaker than the original strain
Just consider NHS testing then.
So every vulnerable person has already been killed and aging and illness progression has stopped then?
The rest of that is irrelevant.
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 07:16 - Oct 19 with 1002 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 07:16 - Oct 19 by Scotia
A TV historian talking about the vaccine and vaccine passport process and getting it wrong within the first 25 seconds.
I wish it was possible to have a sensible debate about this topic but there is nothing left apart from obvious misrepresentation.
The vaccines work, they're safe, they are the sole reason we can safely live a normal life.
End of.
Why are you lying ? He doesn’t mention passports this video is about the lie that the vaccine would stop transition ie the narrative the government pushed out “get the vaccine to save others” and then proceeded to lambast the sceptics who refused vaccination , come on mun people lost their jobs their livelihoods and even friendships over a flat out lie , a director of Pfizer has now admitted in front of the European Parliament that the vaccines were not tested to see if they stopped transmission it wasn’t part of the requirements , even piers Morgan who was one of the most vocal about getting the vaccine to save others has now back tracked since the truth came out about the false narrative the government peddled , look the vaccine might have helped lessen the effect of covid on the person who was jabbed or maybe natural immunity was the main factor ? at this point we can’t be sure , but what we can be sure is that the main narrative the government ran with was utter nonsense
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:51 - Oct 19 with 969 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:18 - Oct 19 by 1462jack
Why are you lying ? He doesn’t mention passports this video is about the lie that the vaccine would stop transition ie the narrative the government pushed out “get the vaccine to save others” and then proceeded to lambast the sceptics who refused vaccination , come on mun people lost their jobs their livelihoods and even friendships over a flat out lie , a director of Pfizer has now admitted in front of the European Parliament that the vaccines were not tested to see if they stopped transmission it wasn’t part of the requirements , even piers Morgan who was one of the most vocal about getting the vaccine to save others has now back tracked since the truth came out about the false narrative the government peddled , look the vaccine might have helped lessen the effect of covid on the person who was jabbed or maybe natural immunity was the main factor ? at this point we can’t be sure , but what we can be sure is that the main narrative the government ran with was utter nonsense
I'm sorry but it is you who is lying. It's not your fault becasue you've been lied to.
Nothing false has been peddled. Nobody ever claimed the vaccines would stop transmission. Nobody. They reduced transmission up until the virus evoloved. Now they stop an awful lot of people getting seriously ill.
Let me repeat that. Nobody has ever claimed the vaccine would stop transmission. Not Pfizer, not the government and not even the much vaunted by Anti-vaxxers Dr Fauci.
In that video Neil Oliver says the prevention of transmission was the reason why everyone was encourgaed to get the vaccine. He refers to it as "the greater good". It wasn't. The REDUCTION in transmission was a lucky addiditon.
The vaccinated were far, far less likely to need treatment. The greater good was in part the reduction in transmission (at the time) but was more so the protection of the NHS. The greater good is receiving a vaccine to stop a you taking up a hospital bed that someone else needs. That is still the case - even if you are otherwise very fit.
We are absolutely certain that the vaccine saved lives, thousands of them. There is no doubt about it. It is still saving lives.
The Covid vaccine will be required by the vulnerable forever. Moreso than the Flu vaccine is. The vulnerable should be getting a booster at every opportunity. I'm in my mid forties, eat healthliy and train 6 days of the week. I have no underlying health conditions. I'm fully boosted becasue there is not a single reason why I shouldn't be. Why would I want to risk getting pretty ill when I could be doing other things?
This entire thread is a prime example of someone believing a completely false narrative. The title of the thread is correct, but the understanding of the admission by Pfizer is completely absent. It means nothing except the spin being put on it.
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 09:58 - Oct 19 with 943 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:51 - Oct 19 by Scotia
I'm sorry but it is you who is lying. It's not your fault becasue you've been lied to.
Nothing false has been peddled. Nobody ever claimed the vaccines would stop transmission. Nobody. They reduced transmission up until the virus evoloved. Now they stop an awful lot of people getting seriously ill.
Let me repeat that. Nobody has ever claimed the vaccine would stop transmission. Not Pfizer, not the government and not even the much vaunted by Anti-vaxxers Dr Fauci.
In that video Neil Oliver says the prevention of transmission was the reason why everyone was encourgaed to get the vaccine. He refers to it as "the greater good". It wasn't. The REDUCTION in transmission was a lucky addiditon.
The vaccinated were far, far less likely to need treatment. The greater good was in part the reduction in transmission (at the time) but was more so the protection of the NHS. The greater good is receiving a vaccine to stop a you taking up a hospital bed that someone else needs. That is still the case - even if you are otherwise very fit.
We are absolutely certain that the vaccine saved lives, thousands of them. There is no doubt about it. It is still saving lives.
The Covid vaccine will be required by the vulnerable forever. Moreso than the Flu vaccine is. The vulnerable should be getting a booster at every opportunity. I'm in my mid forties, eat healthliy and train 6 days of the week. I have no underlying health conditions. I'm fully boosted becasue there is not a single reason why I shouldn't be. Why would I want to risk getting pretty ill when I could be doing other things?
This entire thread is a prime example of someone believing a completely false narrative. The title of the thread is correct, but the understanding of the admission by Pfizer is completely absent. It means nothing except the spin being put on it.
Brain washed
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 10:29 - Oct 19 with 921 views
"3 weeks after receiving one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or AstraZeneca vaccine were between 38% and 49% less likely to pass the virus on to their household contacts than those who were unvaccinated."
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 19:35 - Oct 19 with 836 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 15:15 - Oct 19 by Scotia
Brilliant.
"3 weeks after receiving one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or AstraZeneca vaccine were between 38% and 49% less likely to pass the virus on to their household contacts than those who were unvaccinated."
Which was incorrect, it didn't stop transmission one bit
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 22:44 - Oct 19 with 816 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 20:58 - Oct 12 by Scotia
They didn't say it at all.
I can vividly remember Jonathan Van Tam standing at his lectern saying "they will reduce transmission, but we don't know by how much". That was true. Absolutely true.
Care staff were threatened with the sack. That wasn't a wise move. Why someone working in that field wouldn't be vaccinated is completely beyond me though.
Vaccine passports had their place until the virus mutated from the Delta variant on. That was Summer 2021, pretty much when the passports were gotten rid of.
We got this spot on in the UK. I don't have a political "side" but the right are just misrepresting this, either deliberately or not.
It’s quite clear what was said , by Fauci, Gates , Rochelle Valensky and practically every government.
“Get vaccinated and save grandma”. Utter bullsh*t and like the idiot you are you deny it. Chump
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 22:45 - Oct 19 with 815 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 09:49 - Oct 15 by Scotia
Fauci isn't the government though, he was an advisor to the government. I don't get the obsession with him, he's one government advisor out of hundreds around the world.
And was that a lie? It was his advice at the time based on the information available to him.
Your credibility is zero. Pack it in you moron
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 22:46 - Oct 19 with 815 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:51 - Oct 19 by Scotia
I'm sorry but it is you who is lying. It's not your fault becasue you've been lied to.
Nothing false has been peddled. Nobody ever claimed the vaccines would stop transmission. Nobody. They reduced transmission up until the virus evoloved. Now they stop an awful lot of people getting seriously ill.
Let me repeat that. Nobody has ever claimed the vaccine would stop transmission. Not Pfizer, not the government and not even the much vaunted by Anti-vaxxers Dr Fauci.
In that video Neil Oliver says the prevention of transmission was the reason why everyone was encourgaed to get the vaccine. He refers to it as "the greater good". It wasn't. The REDUCTION in transmission was a lucky addiditon.
The vaccinated were far, far less likely to need treatment. The greater good was in part the reduction in transmission (at the time) but was more so the protection of the NHS. The greater good is receiving a vaccine to stop a you taking up a hospital bed that someone else needs. That is still the case - even if you are otherwise very fit.
We are absolutely certain that the vaccine saved lives, thousands of them. There is no doubt about it. It is still saving lives.
The Covid vaccine will be required by the vulnerable forever. Moreso than the Flu vaccine is. The vulnerable should be getting a booster at every opportunity. I'm in my mid forties, eat healthliy and train 6 days of the week. I have no underlying health conditions. I'm fully boosted becasue there is not a single reason why I shouldn't be. Why would I want to risk getting pretty ill when I could be doing other things?
This entire thread is a prime example of someone believing a completely false narrative. The title of the thread is correct, but the understanding of the admission by Pfizer is completely absent. It means nothing except the spin being put on it.
Your first sentence - the epitome of self unaware. The most condescending poster on here in a long while , even professor realised he’d got it badly wrong and sloped off. Your arrogance is astounding.
Each time I go to Bedd - au........................
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 23:22 - Oct 19 with 802 views
Let’s not forget how hateful some of you were to the unvaccinated. Not only did the unvaccinated discriminated against for no reason they were pilloried, maligned and even accused of being a menace to the public - many advocating (ironically) - detention, house arrest and more.
The same people are ridiculing this post to deflect from their own hateful behaviour. Man up and own up , you know who you are. I would use my best adjective but I don’t want a ban. Yet.
Each time I go to Bedd - au........................
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 07:35 - Oct 20 with 775 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 19:35 - Oct 19 by controversial_jack
Which was incorrect, it didn't stop transmission one bit
Of course it did stop transmission.
Simple science if the vaccine is 80% effective in stopping you from catching covoid then that means the 80 out of 100 people who might have caught covoid don't catch it and CAN'T transmitt it.
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 22:54 - Oct 19 by Brynmill_Jack
Your first sentence - the epitome of self unaware. The most condescending poster on here in a long while , even professor realised he’d got it badly wrong and sloped off. Your arrogance is astounding.
We're on page 4 of this thread and not one person has managed to prove me wrong. Try doing that if you want instead of retreating behind insults.
Show me an example of a civilised Western government lying about vaccination.
You've been peddling this complete nonsense for months based on nothing other than wanting to believe the vaccines are dangerous and / or don't work and rubbish posted by idiots on youtube.
It's not arrogant or condescending to be correct.
[Post edited 20 Oct 2022 9:25]
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:17 - Oct 20 with 768 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 07:35 - Oct 20 by felixstowe_jack
Of course it did stop transmission.
Simple science if the vaccine is 80% effective in stopping you from catching covoid then that means the 80 out of 100 people who might have caught covoid don't catch it and CAN'T transmitt it.
That of course is how vaccines work.
Mrs C and I both had 3 jabs and still caught it.I have numerous friends, who all caught it after getting 3 jabs. It did not stop transmission.
That's how we are told vaccines work, but it doesn't work in reality. Herd immunity is a fallacy too
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 11:07 - Oct 20 with 744 views
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 08:13 - Oct 20 by Scotia
We're on page 4 of this thread and not one person has managed to prove me wrong. Try doing that if you want instead of retreating behind insults.
Show me an example of a civilised Western government lying about vaccination.
You've been peddling this complete nonsense for months based on nothing other than wanting to believe the vaccines are dangerous and / or don't work and rubbish posted by idiots on youtube.
It's not arrogant or condescending to be correct.
[Post edited 20 Oct 2022 9:25]
Enough of your nonsense. From the mouth of horses.
"“The evidence isn’t clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence.”"
Well the evidence is now in, for a few months they slow the transmission and then they increase the likelyhood of infection and transmission. But you ignore the data.
If you want evidence of the danger of the vaccines I can provide it, but I suggest you get Keith's permission first.
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Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 11:25 - Oct 20 with 739 views
"“The evidence isn’t clear whether they can spread the virus to others. We are continuing to evaluate the evidence.”"
Well the evidence is now in, for a few months they slow the transmission and then they increase the likelyhood of infection and transmission. But you ignore the data.
If you want evidence of the danger of the vaccines I can provide it, but I suggest you get Keith's permission first.
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 21:52 - Oct 12 with 762 views Scotia
Pfizer director admits: vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission. on 21:31 - Oct 12 by hobo
It's a shame the covid thread was deleted as there was a load of users here claiming the same thing. Yourself included if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, take your pick
I don't need to take my pick. They're all sound bites of people saying transmission will be reduced and so will serious illness and death. They're absolutely right.
The only dated one is from before Delta when reduction in transmission was at its peak. Everything regarding transmission is irrelevant after that point, that's just evolution. Unfortunately most Anti-vaxers are yet to experience this.
So, still waiting for some evidence of someone from Pfizer claiming their vaccine would stop transmission?
Or has this Dutch far right politician just made up an answer to his own question?
The above is my reply to these soundbites being posted on page 2 of this thread.
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