| Plaid Cymru's grand plan 18:08 - Feb 8 with 4201 views | SullutaCreturned |
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/
Now here's the thing, the Senedd says they won't raise taxes because we are in a cost of living crisis and they cannot ask people to pay more. It's a funny old game, politics though. I say that because they always say Westminster should give us more money. The only way for that to happen is for Westminster to raise taxes and if they did, what do we reckon Drakeford would say?
I reckon he'd criticise the goverment for raising taxes and no matter how much extra came Wales way, it still wouldn't be enough.
For the record, if the Senedd raised taxes in Wales, lets say by what Plaid suggest, I'd be OK with it, if the money was spent wisely.
Vhanged it, should have been paying closer attention! [Post edited 8 Feb 2023 20:21]
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 21:48 - Feb 9 with 936 views | pencoedjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 21:47 - Feb 9 by Togg |
Hey leave the guy alone. I personally don't know if he is the thickest poster on here but he's probably in the top one!  |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:47 - Feb 10 with 906 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 21:04 - Feb 9 by SullutaCreturned |
Why ask?
Hey Kilky,
https://youth.conservatives.co
Felix, Kilky has a narrower view of the world than many a tory voter! He only seeems to see black or white and misses the numerous shades of grey. |
Well i am correct.
https://www.ft.com/content/145
You are a light-weight poster.
Get your facts straight.
*Conservative party members are more likely to be male, white British, a Leave voter, middle class and living in the south of England than the general population
Nearly two-thirds of Tory members – 63 per cent – are men, the research found, compared with just under half of the UK population, according to estimates by the Office for National Statistics.
While 83 per cent of voting-age adults in Great Britain identify as white British, the figure rises to 95 per cent among Tory members.
More than three quarters – 76 per cent – backed Brexit, against 52 per cent of voters as a whole.
Why you argue against something that is bleedin obvious only you will know. |  |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 11:48 - Feb 10 with 891 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:47 - Feb 10 by Kilkennyjack |
Well i am correct.
https://www.ft.com/content/145
You are a light-weight poster.
Get your facts straight.
*Conservative party members are more likely to be male, white British, a Leave voter, middle class and living in the south of England than the general population
Nearly two-thirds of Tory members – 63 per cent – are men, the research found, compared with just under half of the UK population, according to estimates by the Office for National Statistics.
While 83 per cent of voting-age adults in Great Britain identify as white British, the figure rises to 95 per cent among Tory members.
More than three quarters – 76 per cent – backed Brexit, against 52 per cent of voters as a whole.
Why you argue against something that is bleedin obvious only you will know. |
How many of that 63% are middle aged and bald then? There's a lot of older tory members too. So to state the tories are middle aged bald men is nit right.
37% are women to start with. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:57 - Feb 10 with 859 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 11:48 - Feb 10 by SullutaCreturned |
How many of that 63% are middle aged and bald then? There's a lot of older tory members too. So to state the tories are middle aged bald men is nit right.
37% are women to start with. |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:36 - Feb 10 with 849 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:57 - Feb 10 by Kilkennyjack |
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If you want to deal in facts then getbyour facts right, a tough one I know but to quote a poster from days gone by, you can have facts but you can't have your own facts. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:40 - Feb 10 with 847 views | pencoedjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:36 - Feb 10 by SullutaCreturned |
If you want to deal in facts then getbyour facts right, a tough one I know but to quote a poster from days gone by, you can have facts but you can't have your own facts. |
& then post a few smiley faces.
Standard for the idiot. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 22:56 - Feb 11 with 789 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:40 - Feb 10 by pencoedjack |
& then post a few smiley faces.
Standard for the idiot. |
The smiley faces were because the poster cannot distinguish facts from taking the pish.
For the hard of thinking … the baldy comment was a pish take, but the middle aged, middle class, south of England based bloke comment was based on fact.
Obviously a comment claiming that all Tory supporting men are all bald is not a serious suggestion.
Wake the feck up. 👨â€ðŸ¦²ðŸ‡¬ðŸ‡§ | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:06 - Feb 11 with 787 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 20:49 - Feb 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Well a few might have grey hair i guess.
You are probably correct.
The Tory vote is irrelevant in the Celtic lands.
They never ever get power.
Whereas sadly in England, the toxic Tory brand of greed and self interest remains popular.
Its a reality that cannot be air-brushed or ignored.
The people in the Celtic lands have different priorities, and the different voting patterns over 100 years bears testament to that truth.
You are not listening. |
There are no celtic lands just different parts of the United Kingdom. The majority of Welshman are desended from the huge number of immigrants who moved to Wales during the Industrial revolution. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:14 - Feb 11 with 783 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:41 - Feb 9 by Kilkennyjack |
Its only through independence that you get the tools you need to improve Wales.
Just look at Ireland compared to Wales.
Wales is an afterthought for Westmonster. |
Ireland has depended on EU subsidies for virtually all the time it has been in the EU. It only became a net contributers in the last year. The Irish people even rejected the treaty of Lisbon in a referendum. The EU did not accept this result and threatened Ireland with a reduction in subsidies if they did not hold a referendum to reverse the result. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:03 - Feb 12 with 739 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:14 - Feb 11 by felixstowe_jack |
Ireland has depended on EU subsidies for virtually all the time it has been in the EU. It only became a net contributers in the last year. The Irish people even rejected the treaty of Lisbon in a referendum. The EU did not accept this result and threatened Ireland with a reduction in subsidies if they did not hold a referendum to reverse the result. |
And Ireland has moved to a contributor because its got more wealthy thanks to the EU … 🤡 | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:07 - Feb 12 with 737 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:06 - Feb 11 by felixstowe_jack |
There are no celtic lands just different parts of the United Kingdom. The majority of Welshman are desended from the huge number of immigrants who moved to Wales during the Industrial revolution. |
The people of Cymru have never voted to be part of the uk.
The celtic lands were here long before the Saes arrived. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:14 - Feb 12 with 733 views | Togg |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:07 - Feb 12 by Kilkennyjack |
The people of Cymru have never voted to be part of the uk.
The celtic lands were here long before the Saes arrived. |
We are all Mongrels. I'm one you're one and I would say the Saes are, with their large populations from various parts of the world. Nothing to be embarrassed about. Let's celebrate the ethnic diversity of the wonderful institution of the United Kingdom which the majority of the Welsh nation love being part of. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:22 - Feb 12 with 728 views | pencoedjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:14 - Feb 12 by Togg |
We are all Mongrels. I'm one you're one and I would say the Saes are, with their large populations from various parts of the world. Nothing to be embarrassed about. Let's celebrate the ethnic diversity of the wonderful institution of the United Kingdom which the majority of the Welsh nation love being part of. |
He’s full of hate comes with being a loser in life. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:22 - Feb 12 with 728 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:03 - Feb 12 by Kilkennyjack |
And Ireland has moved to a contributor because its got more wealthy thanks to the EU … 🤡 |
It’s a tax haven for big companies like Amazon and apple. Just like Luxembourg. |  |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:59 - Feb 13 with 670 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:07 - Feb 12 by Kilkennyjack |
The people of Cymru have never voted to be part of the uk.
The celtic lands were here long before the Saes arrived. |
The Saes never arrived, they are the result of centuries of breeding amngst many, many people. Romans, Norse, Celtic, peoples from all across Europe and beuond are present in our DNA mun.
The people of Cymru have never voted to leave the UK either and as it stands no more than around 25% are really interested. Yet more Welsh people vote in Uk elections than vote in Senedd elections.
PS, it's alwas a pish take kilky, you just don't see it! | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 22:59 - Feb 14 with 605 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:22 - Feb 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s a tax haven for big companies like Amazon and apple. Just like Luxembourg. |
It brings prosperity, which is sort of the point. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:01 - Feb 14 with 604 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 18:14 - Feb 12 by Togg |
We are all Mongrels. I'm one you're one and I would say the Saes are, with their large populations from various parts of the world. Nothing to be embarrassed about. Let's celebrate the ethnic diversity of the wonderful institution of the United Kingdom which the majority of the Welsh nation love being part of. |
Yes - we dont all want to be Interchangeable English/British.
Thats the exact point.
Diversity is good.
Enjoy. [Post edited 15 Feb 2023 1:44]
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:05 - Feb 14 with 600 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 19:59 - Feb 13 by SullutaCreturned |
The Saes never arrived, they are the result of centuries of breeding amngst many, many people. Romans, Norse, Celtic, peoples from all across Europe and beuond are present in our DNA mun.
The people of Cymru have never voted to leave the UK either and as it stands no more than around 25% are really interested. Yet more Welsh people vote in Uk elections than vote in Senedd elections.
PS, it's alwas a pish take kilky, you just don't see it! |
So lets see the number once Scotland leaves and Ireland is united.
25% can easily reach 50%.
Thats the scenario.
People will not want to be Wales-shire.
Johnson has been a huge boost for Indy Wales. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:26 - Feb 14 with 586 views | raynor94 |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:05 - Feb 14 by Kilkennyjack |
So lets see the number once Scotland leaves and Ireland is united.
25% can easily reach 50%.
Thats the scenario.
People will not want to be Wales-shire.
Johnson has been a huge boost for Indy Wales. |
Another post from fantasy Island.
Can you see the plane yet! |  |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 01:44 - Feb 15 with 577 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 23:26 - Feb 14 by raynor94 |
Another post from fantasy Island.
Can you see the plane yet! |
Is that a Russian plane bringing Putin money to buy even more properties in London ? | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:15 - Feb 15 with 548 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 22:59 - Feb 14 by Kilkennyjack |
It brings prosperity, which is sort of the point. |
Does it though? Look up the phrase “leprechaun economics”. It was coined a few years ago by a Nobel prize winning economist to highlight the huge discrepancies between the huge rise in its overinflated GDP and actual economic situation on the ground in Ireland. Despite being on paper one of the richest countries in the world in terms of GDP the Irish people don’t seem to see a single penny of it. Their unemployment rate is one of the highest in Europe. Their tax receipts don’t seem to improve even with this seemingly massive growth. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:41 - Feb 15 with 530 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:15 - Feb 15 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Does it though? Look up the phrase “leprechaun economics”. It was coined a few years ago by a Nobel prize winning economist to highlight the huge discrepancies between the huge rise in its overinflated GDP and actual economic situation on the ground in Ireland. Despite being on paper one of the richest countries in the world in terms of GDP the Irish people don’t seem to see a single penny of it. Their unemployment rate is one of the highest in Europe. Their tax receipts don’t seem to improve even with this seemingly massive growth. |
Isn't a large part of its gdp the money declared by the big cirporations who use EU laws to use Ireland as a tax haven. They have a large gdp but rock bottom corporation tax.
When the EU tried to change tax law it needed 100% agreements but unsurprisingly Ireland and Luxembourg vetoed it because they make so much from the current rules.
If the corporations moved their head offices because taxes went up, Irelands wealth would plummet. | | | |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 09:01 - Feb 15 with 526 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:41 - Feb 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Isn't a large part of its gdp the money declared by the big cirporations who use EU laws to use Ireland as a tax haven. They have a large gdp but rock bottom corporation tax.
When the EU tried to change tax law it needed 100% agreements but unsurprisingly Ireland and Luxembourg vetoed it because they make so much from the current rules.
If the corporations moved their head offices because taxes went up, Irelands wealth would plummet. |
Correct.
In December 2022 the EU after much negotiations and threats of veto agreed to a minimum corporation tax level for all member countries. It will be set at 15% from 2023. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 09:28 - Feb 15 with 524 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:41 - Feb 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Isn't a large part of its gdp the money declared by the big cirporations who use EU laws to use Ireland as a tax haven. They have a large gdp but rock bottom corporation tax.
When the EU tried to change tax law it needed 100% agreements but unsurprisingly Ireland and Luxembourg vetoed it because they make so much from the current rules.
If the corporations moved their head offices because taxes went up, Irelands wealth would plummet. |
Correct.
In December 2022 the EU after much negotiations and threats of veto agreed to a minimum corporation tax level for all member countries. It will be set at 15% from 2023. | |
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| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 10:56 - Feb 15 with 511 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Plaid Cymru's grand plan on 08:41 - Feb 15 by SullutaCreturned |
Isn't a large part of its gdp the money declared by the big cirporations who use EU laws to use Ireland as a tax haven. They have a large gdp but rock bottom corporation tax.
When the EU tried to change tax law it needed 100% agreements but unsurprisingly Ireland and Luxembourg vetoed it because they make so much from the current rules.
If the corporations moved their head offices because taxes went up, Irelands wealth would plummet. |
My memory of the details are very sketchy but there was a perfectly legal but morally abhorrent scheme where US companies would register their profits in Ireland but the company holding those profits would be an Irish registered company in Bermuda. It was known colloquially as a “dirty double Irish sandwich” or something along those lines. This artificially inflates the GDP figure. They showed about 30% growth for one year because some us tax rule changed causing US companies to pump more money through but the tax take barely increased at all.
It’s all a bit of a farce really. Ireland remains a lovely but largely agrarian and craic loving nation but their economy is an absolute basket case. | |
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