| Welsh Tourism 10:58 - Jul 17 with 69062 views | Dr_Winston |
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Already on its knees in recent years thanks to the Welsh Govts unnecessarily heavy Covid restrictions, refusal to deal with M4 congestion and seeming intention to actually make getting around in Wales even harder. To top that off we've still got the mooted tourist tax to come.
Is there anything in this country that they can't screw up? |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 18:36 - Aug 28 with 1571 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:56 - Aug 28 by Togg |
I will never understand people who go for a holiday/short break and don't spend. Fair enough if you are struggling. When we go anywhere we spend a bloody fortune. I like a beer and a glass of red Mrs T likes a blinkinhNew Zealand Sav Blanc. We also eat out all the time as to us that's part of the holiday. Especially when you're abroad. The local cuisine and all that. |
It’s all about being self sufficient. Spending buggercall in the local area preferring to cook in the van .
It’s the modern day luxury equivalent of cooking Heinz beans and sausage and frying bacon on a prints stove .
Was in Bala recently and a whole army of them took over the lakeside ,shoving the awnings up,got the chairs and table out then brewed up before sitting back and gawping at those who were off to the cafes to spend money.
These scourges should be hammered tax wise and banned from narrow roads. Their width and height. Is an issue . |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:02 - Aug 28 with 1539 views | Togg |
| Welsh Tourism on 18:10 - Aug 28 by raynor94 |
Fair play Builth, you should be the minister for tourism  |
I always push Gower and Mumbles to people. Joke about the weather but also highlight the positives. Considering the weather we had a couple of drinks on the front in Mumbles and two starters...it was pretty busy. The price though! Can't wait to get back to Spain and sit on the beach front with warmth and a round that I don't need a mortgage for. 🌞 | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:05 - Aug 28 with 1536 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Tourism on 18:36 - Aug 28 by onehunglow |
It’s all about being self sufficient. Spending buggercall in the local area preferring to cook in the van .
It’s the modern day luxury equivalent of cooking Heinz beans and sausage and frying bacon on a prints stove .
Was in Bala recently and a whole army of them took over the lakeside ,shoving the awnings up,got the chairs and table out then brewed up before sitting back and gawping at those who were off to the cafes to spend money.
These scourges should be hammered tax wise and banned from narrow roads. Their width and height. Is an issue . |
Speaking as one who has a reasonably large RV I spend quite a bit locally between buying local products and cooking or eating out. This is without normal spending whilst I'm away. But I suppose it takes someone who doesn't do it voice a non factual opinion. |  | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:37 - Aug 28 with 1511 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 16:41 - Aug 28 by Togg |
Great to hear. Lovely parts of the World you are in. Brummies do love Wales. Hope they are spending the Brummie pound unlike Brenda and Keith from Stoke.  |
Fair play brilliant …. 🤣 |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:41 - Aug 28 with 1511 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:36 - Aug 28 by controversial_jack |
Most countries have huge debts, the sums are so large they can never be paid off. National debt is no big deal as long as the international banks etc get their interest payments and fees |
So …..no need to worry about the huge UK debt.
But we should worry that England apparently subsidises Wales. In fact worry so much that Indy is a bad idea….
Mmmmm …. Please make it make sense …. ?! | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:44 - Aug 28 with 1507 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 16:04 - Aug 28 by SullutaCreturned |
Wrong again, the UK has massive debt and Wales carries approximately 15% of it. |
Rubbish - a debt taken in our name but without our specific consent will not stand up in international law.
When Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania left the Soviet Union, the Russians tried this one. The Russians lost. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 19:46 - Aug 28 with 1506 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 17:56 - Aug 28 by Togg |
I will never understand people who go for a holiday/short break and don't spend. Fair enough if you are struggling. When we go anywhere we spend a bloody fortune. I like a beer and a glass of red Mrs T likes a blinkinhNew Zealand Sav Blanc. We also eat out all the time as to us that's part of the holiday. Especially when you're abroad. The local cuisine and all that. |
Yep agreed, as much as you afford.
Part of the holiday. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 21:25 - Aug 28 with 1466 views | Boundy |
| Welsh Tourism on 09:31 - Aug 28 by Kilkennyjack |
I meant the generation of which you are part.
Of course i know nothing about you personally. |
Then aren't I the lucky one | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 21:32 - Aug 28 with 1465 views | majorraglan |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:05 - Aug 28 by Whiterockin |
Speaking as one who has a reasonably large RV I spend quite a bit locally between buying local products and cooking or eating out. This is without normal spending whilst I'm away. But I suppose it takes someone who doesn't do it voice a non factual opinion. |
As a former caravaner I’d agree with your statements. In fact, given we were travelling with kids and bikes, to stay within the car’s weight limits and be able to tow safely we didn’t carry a great deal of food and beer - we’d source it on arrival at our destination. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 06:38 - Aug 29 with 1422 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Tourism on 21:32 - Aug 28 by majorraglan |
As a former caravaner I’d agree with your statements. In fact, given we were travelling with kids and bikes, to stay within the car’s weight limits and be able to tow safely we didn’t carry a great deal of food and beer - we’d source it on arrival at our destination. |
Local products are often part of the experience. A good local butcher, fishmonger fresh vegetables, cheese and bread, then of course some local bottles of beer. Local restaurants/pubs are often booked in advance at busy times. It's a fantastic lifestyle if you get the chance and obviously it help the local economy. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 09:35 - Aug 29 with 1371 views | controversial_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:44 - Aug 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Rubbish - a debt taken in our name but without our specific consent will not stand up in international law.
When Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania left the Soviet Union, the Russians tried this one. The Russians lost. |
Unfortunately, that's incorrect. The UK is registered as a corporation , and whenever we register children at birth we become part of that. It's why the govt can levy taxes on us. Kids born today are born into debt | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 10:00 - Aug 29 with 1366 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:05 - Aug 28 by Whiterockin |
Speaking as one who has a reasonably large RV I spend quite a bit locally between buying local products and cooking or eating out. This is without normal spending whilst I'm away. But I suppose it takes someone who doesn't do it voice a non factual opinion. |
And you were doing so well…
Of course you do.
I hired a RV for the Tour def France in 2014.
My experience was totally different from you.
I suppose your opinion is borne from having one of these vehicles . | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 10:16 - Aug 29 with 1341 views | Whiterockin |
| Welsh Tourism on 10:00 - Aug 29 by onehunglow |
And you were doing so well…
Of course you do.
I hired a RV for the Tour def France in 2014.
My experience was totally different from you.
I suppose your opinion is borne from having one of these vehicles . |
The experience is totally different now to 2014, I have done both. With nearly 250,000 on the toad in the UK now touring areas are more switched on to take advantage of the income stream. But you are of course welcome to your opinion. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 10:48 - Aug 29 with 1316 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 10:16 - Aug 29 by Whiterockin |
The experience is totally different now to 2014, I have done both. With nearly 250,000 on the toad in the UK now touring areas are more switched on to take advantage of the income stream. But you are of course welcome to your opinion. |
Well,that a relief .
In 2014,many hired RVs but because of restrictions on wild camping,most stayed on campsites .
I stand by every word
I’ve no problem with with opinions | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 13:00 - Aug 29 with 1291 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 09:46 - Aug 28 by Kilkennyjack |
The article is about Wales.
Why are you harping on about Rhondda…?
Repeat after me, Wales voted for Brexit by a very small margin. It was such a small margin that the English retirees , who brought their politics with them, were numerous enough to have been statistically significant and very possibly the difference in such a close national vote.
Its been a disaster for Wales, of course, as predicted by all the sensible people.
Hows the taking back control of ‘our borders’ going ? 🤣
Hows Johnson doing as PM ? 🇬🇧 |
Why Rhondda, obviousy you fail to grasp his point. No surprise there.
Now then, these English retirees you love to moan about, maybe they were balanced out by the Welsh people living in England who voted leave?
All the sensible people knew/know that while brexit hasn't been a fantastic thing so far, nobody can predict where we will be in 20 years and longer. Brexit was never about the short term. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:10 - Aug 29 with 1280 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 19:44 - Aug 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Rubbish - a debt taken in our name but without our specific consent will not stand up in international law.
When Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania left the Soviet Union, the Russians tried this one. The Russians lost. |
You really need to think about things.
We WILL owe the Uk, or what's left of it, that money and we will negotiate a settlement because otheriwse the outcome doesn't bear thinking about.
How will our imports get to Wales? The vast majority go through England, if we stiff them for 250 billion (rough guess) then what do you think they will do?
Hard borders maybe? How about no trade deals? Most of our business is done with England and most of what we buy in comes via England.
We wouldn't have the EU to help out either because even if we applied to them (and bearing in mind it could take years or even decades to gain membership) indy has to come first and the application afterwards.
Wales would be cut off and at the whim of whoever was in power in Westminster who would have no reason to be generous to us if we "welshed" on a debt to them.
Latvia and Lihuania were welcomed by the West, have borders with Western countries. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:39 - Aug 29 with 1246 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:00 - Aug 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Why Rhondda, obviousy you fail to grasp his point. No surprise there.
Now then, these English retirees you love to moan about, maybe they were balanced out by the Welsh people living in England who voted leave?
All the sensible people knew/know that while brexit hasn't been a fantastic thing so far, nobody can predict where we will be in 20 years and longer. Brexit was never about the short term. |
Welsh people living in England …the absolute traitors .
Millions of them | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 14:01 - Aug 29 with 1226 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:39 - Aug 29 by onehunglow |
Welsh people living in England …the absolute traitors .
Millions of them |
Well, about 610,000 apparently. The number must be growing though. | | | |
| Welsh Tourism on 14:12 - Aug 29 with 1208 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:39 - Aug 29 by onehunglow |
Welsh people living in England …the absolute traitors .
Millions of them |
People who live in the UK are free to move to wherever the best job opportunities are. Seems that is why so many remainers think and independent Wales should seek to rejoin the EU . does that make the 48% of the Welsh population traitors, who voted to remain, traitors?
Guess the 40,000 Welsh people who have treatment in English hospitals are also traitors. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 14:30 - Aug 29 with 1195 views | onehunglow |
| Welsh Tourism on 14:12 - Aug 29 by felixstowe_jack |
People who live in the UK are free to move to wherever the best job opportunities are. Seems that is why so many remainers think and independent Wales should seek to rejoin the EU . does that make the 48% of the Welsh population traitors, who voted to remain, traitors?
Guess the 40,000 Welsh people who have treatment in English hospitals are also traitors. |
Bear in Ming my tongue in cheek tendency .
I’ve been sitting in a chemo room and talking to a north Wales person whose life was being saved by England NHS .
Some of our posters see welsh emigres just as I said . | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 14:46 - Aug 29 with 1176 views | builthjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 18:10 - Aug 28 by raynor94 |
Fair play Builth, you should be the minister for tourism |
No need. Mid Wales has been chocabloc since before Easter. I am not sure what all the fuss is about. |  |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:21 - Aug 29 with 1139 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:10 - Aug 29 by SullutaCreturned |
You really need to think about things.
We WILL owe the Uk, or what's left of it, that money and we will negotiate a settlement because otheriwse the outcome doesn't bear thinking about.
How will our imports get to Wales? The vast majority go through England, if we stiff them for 250 billion (rough guess) then what do you think they will do?
Hard borders maybe? How about no trade deals? Most of our business is done with England and most of what we buy in comes via England.
We wouldn't have the EU to help out either because even if we applied to them (and bearing in mind it could take years or even decades to gain membership) indy has to come first and the application afterwards.
Wales would be cut off and at the whim of whoever was in power in Westminster who would have no reason to be generous to us if we "welshed" on a debt to them.
Latvia and Lihuania were welcomed by the West, have borders with Western countries. |
Ireland found a way post Brexit and is booming.
Look up ‘land bridge’.
So will Cymru and Scotland.
However by then Englands failed Brexit will be reversed and so its going to get sorted.
Yes Cymru will reach a fair agreement, but your argument is a kin to a gambling, drunken husband telling his good wife that she cant leave him because she owes half his feckless debt. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:24 - Aug 29 with 1138 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 13:00 - Aug 29 by SullutaCreturned |
Why Rhondda, obviousy you fail to grasp his point. No surprise there.
Now then, these English retirees you love to moan about, maybe they were balanced out by the Welsh people living in England who voted leave?
All the sensible people knew/know that while brexit hasn't been a fantastic thing so far, nobody can predict where we will be in 20 years and longer. Brexit was never about the short term. |
Look up percentages.
Might help you understand better. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:25 - Aug 29 with 1137 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Welsh Tourism on 14:12 - Aug 29 by felixstowe_jack |
People who live in the UK are free to move to wherever the best job opportunities are. Seems that is why so many remainers think and independent Wales should seek to rejoin the EU . does that make the 48% of the Welsh population traitors, who voted to remain, traitors?
Guess the 40,000 Welsh people who have treatment in English hospitals are also traitors. |
So now you agree that freedom of movement is a good thing.
Progress at long last. | |
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| Welsh Tourism on 16:34 - Aug 29 with 1124 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Welsh Tourism on 16:21 - Aug 29 by Kilkennyjack |
Ireland found a way post Brexit and is booming.
Look up ‘land bridge’.
So will Cymru and Scotland.
However by then Englands failed Brexit will be reversed and so its going to get sorted.
Yes Cymru will reach a fair agreement, but your argument is a kin to a gambling, drunken husband telling his good wife that she cant leave him because she owes half his feckless debt. |
it's nothing like that but you'll push any line won't you.
Ireland found a way because of the post brexit agreement with the UK government. The EU won't be negotiating on our behalf because we are not members.
So you admit Cymru will reach a fair agreement then, WAYHAYYYYY, some sense at last. The other big difference between us and the Baltic states is, we are legally members of a democratic union, we are legally and willingly part of the UK and so any debt taken by the UK is also a debt Wales has a duty to honour, in part.
What you have suggested is akin to a business partership breaking up and one partner refusing to honour their share of the debt. | | | |
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