| Mark Drakeford 11:26 - Dec 13 with 13570 views | raynor94 |
Has resigned with immediate effect |  |
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| Mark Drakeford on 22:28 - Dec 19 with 1459 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Good time to resign, just before the budget unravels. |  |
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| Mark Drakeford on 14:21 - Dec 21 with 1362 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 22:28 - Dec 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Good time to resign, just before the budget unravels. |
How is the budget going to unravel? |  | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 15:03 - Dec 21 with 1326 views | Boundy |
| Mark Drakeford on 22:28 - Dec 19 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Good time to resign, just before the budget unravels. |
Yep as I said many a times before timing is everything. He'll stay in the background sniping away, blaming London for all our ills ,accepting no responsibility for the mess he and the rest of the ****wits created and now left behind .Cowardly man ,loose term | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 15:18 - Dec 21 with 1332 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mark Drakeford on 20:04 - Dec 17 by majorraglan |
Not the case. On some measures it was on others it wasn’t. |
Thank you Major, he is bit twp …. Pity mun … |  |
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| Mark Drakeford on 15:30 - Dec 21 with 1310 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mark Drakeford on 19:14 - Dec 17 by Wingstandwood |
His answer a few years back to my question on how Wales would be able to perform organ transplantation when Welsh patients would no longer have access to (Wales has none of certain type) English specialty hospitals, along with the loss of NHSBT and RAF expertise/Sea King medi-vac assistance? Was?
Welsh patients according to him would be flown over to European hospitals by means of EU airforce intervention and I guess with (He did not elaborate further) European organ donors happily providing organs to foreigners an ocean away, outside of their own nations health service/donation pool. Yeah that's so feasable?
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Can you repost it please ? Thanks.
If your position is now that every other nation in the world can achieve Indy without being next door to England, but Wales - uniquely - cannot do similar ….. then your position is clearly a load of old bollox.
In any Indy Wales there would be a period of reorganisation as in every newly Indy nation, but being next door to England is really not needed.
Wales Govt already gifted PPE to England in the darkest of covid times.
Its amazing how two friendly nations can help each other at a time of crisis…. ? | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 16:35 - Dec 21 with 1277 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 15:30 - Dec 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Can you repost it please ? Thanks.
If your position is now that every other nation in the world can achieve Indy without being next door to England, but Wales - uniquely - cannot do similar ….. then your position is clearly a load of old bollox.
In any Indy Wales there would be a period of reorganisation as in every newly Indy nation, but being next door to England is really not needed.
Wales Govt already gifted PPE to England in the darkest of covid times.
Its amazing how two friendly nations can help each other at a time of crisis…. ? |
You ignore the fact that 80% of the people want to be part of a democratic strong UK where the richer areas give large subsidies to poorer areas like Scotland and Wales.
Never understand why you and independent Wales only to immediately surrender it the undemocratic EU which will Wales a smaller subsidy in return for using the Euro.
You have never explained what benefits Wales would get by leaving the UK and surrendering sovereignty to the EU. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 16:36]
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| Mark Drakeford on 16:56 - Dec 21 with 1248 views | union_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 16:35 - Dec 21 by felixstowe_jack |
You ignore the fact that 80% of the people want to be part of a democratic strong UK where the richer areas give large subsidies to poorer areas like Scotland and Wales.
Never understand why you and independent Wales only to immediately surrender it the undemocratic EU which will Wales a smaller subsidy in return for using the Euro.
You have never explained what benefits Wales would get by leaving the UK and surrendering sovereignty to the EU. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 16:36]
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Because it will be separate from England is the answer. It’s a sickness with these people! |  |
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| Mark Drakeford on 17:11 - Dec 21 with 1246 views | AnotherJohn |
| Mark Drakeford on 16:56 - Dec 21 by union_jack |
Because it will be separate from England is the answer. It’s a sickness with these people! |
The other striking thing is that our Irish poster refuses to discuss the damage the EU did to Irish healthcare (leaving the lower classes with access only to the worst half of a two-tier system) when it forced the RoI to cut public spending by imposing the excessive deficit procedure in 2009. The Irish Government effectively lost control over its own economic policy, which was instead dictated by Brussels. | | | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 17:40 - Dec 21 with 1210 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mark Drakeford on 16:35 - Dec 21 by felixstowe_jack |
You ignore the fact that 80% of the people want to be part of a democratic strong UK where the richer areas give large subsidies to poorer areas like Scotland and Wales.
Never understand why you and independent Wales only to immediately surrender it the undemocratic EU which will Wales a smaller subsidy in return for using the Euro.
You have never explained what benefits Wales would get by leaving the UK and surrendering sovereignty to the EU. [Post edited 21 Dec 2023 16:36]
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The uk is the most unequal state in Europe. Why ? | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 07:34 - Dec 22 with 1131 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 17:40 - Dec 21 by Kilkennyjack |
The uk is the most unequal state in Europe. Why ? |
Yes guess so Scotland and Wales get huge subsidies while the English suffer.
You still did not say how Wales would be better off leaving the democratic UK with the loss of the subsidies then surrendering their sovereignty to the undemocratic EU and receiving a much smaller subsidy. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 08:31 - Dec 22 with 1111 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mark Drakeford on 07:34 - Dec 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes guess so Scotland and Wales get huge subsidies while the English suffer.
You still did not say how Wales would be better off leaving the democratic UK with the loss of the subsidies then surrendering their sovereignty to the undemocratic EU and receiving a much smaller subsidy. |
Liz Truss mini budget cost us £30 billion alone.
The uk is a failed model.
It will change.
Inevitable. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 08:48 - Dec 23 with 1060 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 08:31 - Dec 22 by Kilkennyjack |
Liz Truss mini budget cost us £30 billion alone.
The uk is a failed model.
It will change.
Inevitable. |
Why do you keep repeating the SNP LIES. Please answer a question for once on your life.
The tax cuts would have been £30 over a full financial year. They were never implemented therefore they cost us nothing as you well know.
Devolved Wales is a failed experiment under Drakeford. Wales is only kept from going under due to the HUGE UK subsidy. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 13:14 - Dec 23 with 1012 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 07:34 - Dec 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Yes guess so Scotland and Wales get huge subsidies while the English suffer.
You still did not say how Wales would be better off leaving the democratic UK with the loss of the subsidies then surrendering their sovereignty to the undemocratic EU and receiving a much smaller subsidy. |
England isn't self sufficient, it has to borrow from International banks to survive | | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 14:14 - Dec 23 with 997 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Mark Drakeford on 08:48 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Why do you keep repeating the SNP LIES. Please answer a question for once on your life.
The tax cuts would have been £30 over a full financial year. They were never implemented therefore they cost us nothing as you well know.
Devolved Wales is a failed experiment under Drakeford. Wales is only kept from going under due to the HUGE UK subsidy. |
Almost all English regions and Scotland have a negative balance. Companies running Welsh business are based in London and the south east so that is where corporation tax is paid and reported. London itself was running a deficit for a while. London is a wealth vortex and the way the countries economics are structured.
I do not talk the language of 'subsidies'. Wales produces vital low cost services which are needed to allow for firms in England to run profitable but useless services such as online gambling for example. UK iself is in huge deficit and debts. There were moves to rectify this (Cameron and his chancellor) but Brexit and Covid kicked those moves into the long grass.
USA has conflicts about cutting deficits and debts and they have an annual standoff each year as they print more debt and delay making economies. Austerity is presented as 'a choice'. Ultiately thetre will be no options. |  |
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| Mark Drakeford on 15:21 - Dec 23 with 965 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Mark Drakeford on 08:48 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Why do you keep repeating the SNP LIES. Please answer a question for once on your life.
The tax cuts would have been £30 over a full financial year. They were never implemented therefore they cost us nothing as you well know.
Devolved Wales is a failed experiment under Drakeford. Wales is only kept from going under due to the HUGE UK subsidy. |
I never mentioned the SNP.
However … According to the latest edition of the annual Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) report, Scotland’s public sector revenue was £73.8 billion, based on a calculation which essentially attributes all public sector revenues from North Sea gas and oil activity to Scotland.
Of this, £19 billion was devolved and so, effectively, stayed in Scotland for use by Scottish authorities.
The remainder, £54.7 billion, was collected by the UK Government. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 20:08 - Dec 23 with 922 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 13:14 - Dec 23 by controversial_jack |
England isn't self sufficient, it has to borrow from International banks to survive |
Actually England expenditure and income are in balance it is only the subsidies paid to NI Scotland and Wales that puts that pushes the UK economy into red.
This of course does not include the the cost of the money borrowed to to keep 12 million people in furlough or the huge energy payments to everyone last year to cover the high energy cost since Russia invaded Ukraine. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 20:13 - Dec 23 with 920 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 15:21 - Dec 23 by Kilkennyjack |
I never mentioned the SNP.
However … According to the latest edition of the annual Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) report, Scotland’s public sector revenue was £73.8 billion, based on a calculation which essentially attributes all public sector revenues from North Sea gas and oil activity to Scotland.
Of this, £19 billion was devolved and so, effectively, stayed in Scotland for use by Scottish authorities.
The remainder, £54.7 billion, was collected by the UK Government. |
You directly quote the SNP leader who mentioned the mythical £30 billion in the House of commons.
North Sea oil and gas revenues are nothing like you quote and 50 % of UK gas and 25% of UK oil still come from the English area of the North Sea.
Not like you completely change the subject of Drakeford.
Still refusing to answer the question one day we might get an answer from you. [Post edited 23 Dec 2023 20:19]
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| Mark Drakeford on 20:18 - Dec 23 with 918 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 15:30 - Dec 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Can you repost it please ? Thanks.
If your position is now that every other nation in the world can achieve Indy without being next door to England, but Wales - uniquely - cannot do similar ….. then your position is clearly a load of old bollox.
In any Indy Wales there would be a period of reorganisation as in every newly Indy nation, but being next door to England is really not needed.
Wales Govt already gifted PPE to England in the darkest of covid times.
Its amazing how two friendly nations can help each other at a time of crisis…. ? |
Like Boris ordered and paid for vaccines and distributed vaccines across the whole of the UK.
If you remember the EU could not make its mind which vaccine to order and half their orders were for the French vaccine that was later scrapped and the EU threatened to withhold UK orders. | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 08:42 - Dec 24 with 877 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Mark Drakeford on 20:08 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Actually England expenditure and income are in balance it is only the subsidies paid to NI Scotland and Wales that puts that pushes the UK economy into red.
This of course does not include the the cost of the money borrowed to to keep 12 million people in furlough or the huge energy payments to everyone last year to cover the high energy cost since Russia invaded Ukraine. |
Well actually that's not true, the deficit up until November this year was 116.4 billion. Take out the money given to the devolved governments and you get the English deficit.
The only English region in profit is the South East. it shores up the rest of the country.
When you reference furlough and energy payments, there are 57 million in England and roughly 10 in the devolved countries, just by size of numbers the deficit there would be massively more in England. | | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 11:32 - Dec 24 with 833 views | controversial_jack |
| Mark Drakeford on 20:18 - Dec 23 by felixstowe_jack |
Like Boris ordered and paid for vaccines and distributed vaccines across the whole of the UK.
If you remember the EU could not make its mind which vaccine to order and half their orders were for the French vaccine that was later scrapped and the EU threatened to withhold UK orders. |
If i remember correctly, we waited for that oxford developed vaccine, AZ, which turned out to be the worse of them all and practically useless | | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 20:45 - Dec 24 with 769 views | AnotherJohn |
| Mark Drakeford on 11:32 - Dec 24 by controversial_jack |
If i remember correctly, we waited for that oxford developed vaccine, AZ, which turned out to be the worse of them all and practically useless |
Recollections vary, as the saying goes.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/07/doubts-cast-over-astrazeneca-jab
The author of this article suggests that the EU politicking may have had deadly consequences.
It shouldn't be forgotten that in 2020 AZ was sold to low and middle income countries at cost price. It did not require the same cold chain storage as the expensive mRNA Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, and was more effective than Chinese Sinovac/Sinopharm, which were the only affordable alternatives for many poor countries. AZ was mass produced in India as Covishield and widely distributed. It is true that after the scare about rare side effects AZ uptake has tailed off, as the Guardian article explains. AZ was not chosen for the UK booster programme because of negative public perceptions, although studies have shown it is effective when combined with mRNA vaccines. So not practically useless.
I think the one for you is the Russian Sputnik-V. It hasn't been approved by WHO, the European Medicines Agency or the US Food and Drug Administration because of “manufacturing concerns” and “missing documents”, but it is uncontaminated by the Western capitalism you hate. | | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 11:54 - Dec 25 with 700 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Mark Drakeford on 15:30 - Dec 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Can you repost it please ? Thanks.
If your position is now that every other nation in the world can achieve Indy without being next door to England, but Wales - uniquely - cannot do similar ….. then your position is clearly a load of old bollox.
In any Indy Wales there would be a period of reorganisation as in every newly Indy nation, but being next door to England is really not needed.
Wales Govt already gifted PPE to England in the darkest of covid times.
Its amazing how two friendly nations can help each other at a time of crisis…. ? |
Actually Kilky, it's precisley because of our geographic position that things get harder. not just for us but for Ireland too. A very large amount of our trade is with England and (just like Ireland) a very large amount of our imports travel through England to get here.
if that open border became a hard border and we were subject to the same checks (or even more stringent checks) than happen since Brexit can you see the possibility that it make Wales very much worse off?
You say being next to England is "really not needed" but we can hardly relocate Wales.
Now that last line, Wales provides very little to England that they couldn't get for themselves with some"reorganisation" but we get a lot our imports from England. In fact we get approx 48.4% of our imports from the UK and 33.6% from the EU so 82% of our imports would be affected by a hard border. We also have a trade deficit of 3.4 billion.
https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/welsh-trade-deficit-valued-
Put bluntly, what we do know is that governments can be quite vindictive, as was the EU towards the UK when we chose to leave. Why do you think the English would be so friendly if we told them to get lost? | | | |
| Mark Drakeford on 19:30 - Mar 15 with 196 views | felixstowe_jack |
Drakeford's last interview on TV before he leaves.
He was asked a simple question " why has the Welsh NHS never achieved its A@E waiting time target in the last 20 years?"
His reply "it is because A@E departments are full of drunks." | |
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| Mark Drakeford on 20:14 - Mar 15 with 163 views | Wingstandwood |
| Mark Drakeford on 19:30 - Mar 15 by felixstowe_jack |
Drakeford's last interview on TV before he leaves.
He was asked a simple question " why has the Welsh NHS never achieved its A@E waiting time target in the last 20 years?"
His reply "it is because A@E departments are full of drunks." |
There is a reason why clowns like Drakeford would never last a single week in the private sector, or any profession that requires real standards, real expertise and real end results.
And that is because he has zero critical thinking skills, zero common sense, zero talent, zero grasp of reality and zero recognition/experience of how the real world out there actually works.
He is also a man-child who never takes zero responsibility for his appalling incompetence with "the dog eat my homework" standard excuses.
He is a ruinous backward yokel who would have created a share price crash, profit warning and shareholder revolt to demand an emergency general meeting if he had ever set foot into the private sector.
The guy is forever written in stone to be forever remembered as a national embarrassment! FFS (close your eyes and imagine this) could you ever imagine him as: army chief of staff overseeing a major military deployment, brains behind a complex billon pound engineering project, or head of major FTSE 100 company etc. What an absolute F-ing state and what an absolute F-ing joke he truly is! |  |
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