| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man 17:45 - Feb 8 with 1894 views | theloneranger |
"A former British soldier is to be prosecuted for the murder of a man in Belfast in 1972, Northern Ireland's Public Prosecution Service has announced."
"The ex-soldier and three other veterans are also facing attempted murder counts related to incidents in the same year, the PPS said."
"Soldier F is accused of the murder of Patrick McVeigh, 44, who was shot at the junction of Finaghy Road North and Riverdale Park South in the city on May 13, 1972."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13060975/british-army-veteran-charged-m |  |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 16:04 - Feb 10 with 731 views | SullutaCreturned |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 06:28 - Feb 10 by mangohilljack |
Such condemnation from the same old posters when it comes to murdering innocent women and children in Ukraine which is absolutely nothing in comparison to the genocide in the Gaza, the war on Iraq (weapons of mass destruction zzzzzzz) Afghanistan etc.
You either condemn the murder of innocent people or you don't. |
Who has condemne this? If the person has committed a crime and they have proper evidence then fair enough but the same rules should apply to the terrorists, why should soldiers be prosecuted when terrorists were given a free pass? |  | | |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 16:35 - Feb 10 with 723 views | Togg |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 15:49 - Feb 10 by Boundy |
Too many forget that but all in the name of peace eh |
If there was an amnesty for the terrorists why wasn't there an amnesty for the forces? Badly thought out. Post Franco Spain there was reconciliation. Same in South Africa | | | |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 17:19 - Feb 10 with 694 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 16:35 - Feb 10 by Togg |
If there was an amnesty for the terrorists why wasn't there an amnesty for the forces? Badly thought out. Post Franco Spain there was reconciliation. Same in South Africa |
Many murderers released under GFA | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 18:49 - Feb 10 with 685 views | Togg |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 17:19 - Feb 10 by onehunglow |
Many murderers released under GFA |
Sickening for the innocent families. However if there is peace and no more atrocities it's a price we have to pay... unfortunately. All this drum banging for a United Ireland, will just bring back the bad old days. In Northern Ireland You can be British or Irish . In fact it's no great deal to have your administration Centre in London or Dublin. Changing constitutions his huge and not a romantic wet dream which the resident faux Irish poster seems to champion. Peace health and prosperity come first .
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 19:33 - Feb 10 with 655 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 18:49 - Feb 10 by Togg |
Sickening for the innocent families. However if there is peace and no more atrocities it's a price we have to pay... unfortunately. All this drum banging for a United Ireland, will just bring back the bad old days. In Northern Ireland You can be British or Irish . In fact it's no great deal to have your administration Centre in London or Dublin. Changing constitutions his huge and not a romantic wet dream which the resident faux Irish poster seems to champion. Peace health and prosperity come first .
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We have completely forsaken those who gave their lives for our country the United Kingdom.
On this forum,sone support people whose aim was and is to get Ireland Catholic no matter what .
It IS about religion
It is about state control
It is republic over monarchy
And people think its inevitable
It’s a future bloodbath ,possibly worse that IRA days .
No proud Ulsterman will be ruled by republican state ,ratgerfthan the British Crown. | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 19:54 - Feb 10 with 647 views | Togg |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 19:33 - Feb 10 by onehunglow |
We have completely forsaken those who gave their lives for our country the United Kingdom.
On this forum,sone support people whose aim was and is to get Ireland Catholic no matter what .
It IS about religion
It is about state control
It is republic over monarchy
And people think its inevitable
It’s a future bloodbath ,possibly worse that IRA days .
No proud Ulsterman will be ruled by republican state ,ratgerfthan the British Crown. |
I think the status quo we've got now is the best option. Loads of money is pumped into the Catholic Republican areas much to chagrin of the Loyalist Protestant areas .
Okay Shinners are the most popular party, however I believe if there was a threat of a so called united Ireland the Loyalists would tacticaly vote for one of their parties.
The will of the people bollocks would take centuries of different radical thinking. The hatred and distrust will take years to eradicate, maybe centuries, maybe never. I believe most middle class hard working Catholics don't really give a shit as long as they have a roof over their heads, employment and equality and opportunities for their children. However the firebrands and the dreamers are just that! | | | |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 20:49 - Feb 10 with 621 views | Kilkennyjack |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 18:49 - Feb 10 by Togg |
Sickening for the innocent families. However if there is peace and no more atrocities it's a price we have to pay... unfortunately. All this drum banging for a United Ireland, will just bring back the bad old days. In Northern Ireland You can be British or Irish . In fact it's no great deal to have your administration Centre in London or Dublin. Changing constitutions his huge and not a romantic wet dream which the resident faux Irish poster seems to champion. Peace health and prosperity come first .
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The peace was based on the GFA.
The GFA critically carried a commitment for a border poll when the people were in favour.
Its not new.
Its part and parcel of the peace we have enjoyed for over 20 years.
If you have only just realised that this was a GFA guarantee, then you have been asleep for 2 decades.
The unionist communities know it’s a probability and of course they will have a vote.
They already signed up to the GFA.
This is how peace and prosperity was delivered. |  |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 20:58 - Feb 10 with 626 views | SullutaCreturned |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 20:49 - Feb 10 by Kilkennyjack |
The peace was based on the GFA.
The GFA critically carried a commitment for a border poll when the people were in favour.
Its not new.
Its part and parcel of the peace we have enjoyed for over 20 years.
If you have only just realised that this was a GFA guarantee, then you have been asleep for 2 decades.
The unionist communities know it’s a probability and of course they will have a vote.
They already signed up to the GFA.
This is how peace and prosperity was delivered. |
Except there hasn't been 20 years of peace and presious little prosperity.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56664378
Only the blinkered, people like you, think there has been. Loyalist terrorists are just as bad as republican. | | | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:34 - Feb 10 with 611 views | Boundy |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 19:54 - Feb 10 by Togg |
I think the status quo we've got now is the best option. Loads of money is pumped into the Catholic Republican areas much to chagrin of the Loyalist Protestant areas .
Okay Shinners are the most popular party, however I believe if there was a threat of a so called united Ireland the Loyalists would tacticaly vote for one of their parties.
The will of the people bollocks would take centuries of different radical thinking. The hatred and distrust will take years to eradicate, maybe centuries, maybe never. I believe most middle class hard working Catholics don't really give a shit as long as they have a roof over their heads, employment and equality and opportunities for their children. However the firebrands and the dreamers are just that! |
The very fact that a " peace line/walls " is still in existence and tolerated ( in the very bad old days called an interface ) should tell you that feelings still fester under the surface whether it be by the citizens or the politicians . There is hope that one day these will be taken down but whilst the tribalist leanings in which both communities still adhere to then its going to take a miracle or a generational change not ever seen before on a scale needed in which will make a difference to the lives of all . | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:22 - Feb 11 with 549 views | Togg |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:34 - Feb 10 by Boundy |
The very fact that a " peace line/walls " is still in existence and tolerated ( in the very bad old days called an interface ) should tell you that feelings still fester under the surface whether it be by the citizens or the politicians . There is hope that one day these will be taken down but whilst the tribalist leanings in which both communities still adhere to then its going to take a miracle or a generational change not ever seen before on a scale needed in which will make a difference to the lives of all . |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:27 - Feb 11 with 535 views | controversial_jack |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 16:35 - Feb 10 by Togg |
If there was an amnesty for the terrorists why wasn't there an amnesty for the forces? Badly thought out. Post Franco Spain there was reconciliation. Same in South Africa |
Govts say that they don't deal with terrorists, but they do | | | |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:37 - Feb 11 with 539 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:34 - Feb 10 by Boundy |
The very fact that a " peace line/walls " is still in existence and tolerated ( in the very bad old days called an interface ) should tell you that feelings still fester under the surface whether it be by the citizens or the politicians . There is hope that one day these will be taken down but whilst the tribalist leanings in which both communities still adhere to then its going to take a miracle or a generational change not ever seen before on a scale needed in which will make a difference to the lives of all . |
Will the murals be s rubbed out? | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:00 - Feb 11 with 518 views | Kilkennyjack |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:37 - Feb 11 by onehunglow |
Will the murals be s rubbed out? |
Good point. I hope so. | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:19 - Feb 11 with 518 views | Boundy |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:37 - Feb 11 by onehunglow |
Will the murals be s rubbed out? |
IMO they're part of history as ugly as it was ,take Bobby Sands mural for example , despite his politics you have to admire ( even secretly )his (and others) sacrifice in what he believed in . To starve one self to death for a cause takes total commitment . Its a pity so many died on all sides to get to where we are now. | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:57 - Feb 11 with 510 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:00 - Feb 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Good point. I hope so. |
Indeed do Killy
We have different standpoints but both see these as divisive
If also stop the Orange marches of triumphantism pouring to wind up and keep catholics on their place | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 12:38 - Feb 11 with 499 views | SullutaCreturned |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:00 - Feb 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Good point. I hope so. |
This would where a statement of yours is proved wrong, history can decide the future. That is in part what these murals do, people see them and stand by them, it directs their future behaviour.
If Ireland is to have real peace these direction signs do need covering up and new ones put up in their place but will the terrorists allow it?
I think if anyone tried painting over these murals there would be a bad reaction. 20 years of almost peace isn't enough to guarantee a peaceful future. | | | |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 13:54 - Feb 11 with 481 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 12:38 - Feb 11 by SullutaCreturned |
This would where a statement of yours is proved wrong, history can decide the future. That is in part what these murals do, people see them and stand by them, it directs their future behaviour.
If Ireland is to have real peace these direction signs do need covering up and new ones put up in their place but will the terrorists allow it?
I think if anyone tried painting over these murals there would be a bad reaction. 20 years of almost peace isn't enough to guarantee a peaceful future. |
Indeed.
If they want a united Ireland then they will have to dismantle all the tokens of rebellion,anti Brit and learn to live without bigotry.
More chance of me dating Taylor Swift . | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:00 - Feb 11 with 443 views | Kilkennyjack |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 11:57 - Feb 11 by onehunglow |
Indeed do Killy
We have different standpoints but both see these as divisive
If also stop the Orange marches of triumphantism pouring to wind up and keep catholics on their place |
Yes, all sides need to desist and play their own part in a peaceful future.
The young people in the north only know peace. | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 20:51 - Feb 12 with 373 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:00 - Feb 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes, all sides need to desist and play their own part in a peaceful future.
The young people in the north only know peace. |
I’m afraid that’s not quite accurate .
Might not be the bombings but the division is there and always will be
It could only be removed by deporting and relocating ALL the Protestants to whence they came mainly Scotland via the Plantation scheme | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 21:57 - Feb 12 with 341 views | Kilkennyjack |
If you cant tell the difference between the 1970’s and the last 20 years then there is no hope for you. You just dont want to see it.
As someone once said ….. ‘All changed, changed utterly; and a terrible beauty is born’ | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 08:08 - Feb 13 with 303 views | Boundy |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 20:51 - Feb 12 by onehunglow |
I’m afraid that’s not quite accurate .
Might not be the bombings but the division is there and always will be
It could only be removed by deporting and relocating ALL the Protestants to whence they came mainly Scotland via the Plantation scheme |
There's been a few attempted bombings all thwarted by the security services with up to 2018, 158 terrorist incidents .Much better to have none wouldn't everyone agree | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 12:52 - Feb 13 with 275 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 08:08 - Feb 13 by Boundy |
There's been a few attempted bombings all thwarted by the security services with up to 2018, 158 terrorist incidents .Much better to have none wouldn't everyone agree |
IRA saw themselves as soldiers not criminals | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 08:18 - Feb 17 with 218 views | Boundy |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 12:52 - Feb 13 by onehunglow |
IRA saw themselves as soldiers not criminals |
Indeed they did and as the conflict progressed in some areas of their command and control they were considered more than a dangerous opponent , not quite on the scale of a battalion of infantry but still worthy respect as to their capabilities . | |
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| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 09:25 - Feb 17 with 197 views | onehunglow |
| British Army veteran will be charged with murder of man on 08:18 - Feb 17 by Boundy |
Indeed they did and as the conflict progressed in some areas of their command and control they were considered more than a dangerous opponent , not quite on the scale of a battalion of infantry but still worthy respect as to their capabilities . |
Glad you got out alive matey. Many didn’t .
No British soldier should face charges like this now.
Might as well go back to WW 2 ,Kenya,Malaya ,Cyprus ,Aden and see if we can prosecute a few that put their necks on the line | |
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