| Its our dogs next 09:10 - Mar 31 with 9234 views | Boundy | I can't begin to think who's driving this ,. |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 09:46 - Mar 31 with 3917 views | onehunglow | I’m averse to feral scum that plague our towns and cities and when caught give the middle digit to us all This will be the Islamic influence as dogs and pigs are unclean animals which is rather ironic looking around |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 11:39 - Mar 31 with 3882 views | Demitrius | Most of the Asian shops round my way have no dogs signs in the windows even ones that are ran as Post Office franchises which I think is disgusting as many old folk have assistance dogs and comfort dogs needed for confidence collecting pensions posting letters and other old school stuff etc.... Aisles and fridges full of cheap alcohol though. Strange that. Asda as you would expect being owned by the Issa brothers don't allow dogs and neither do many other UK supermarkets these days - I'm sure this wasn't the case years ago ? However, the policy seems to vary from store to store, area to area, no doubt reflecting the demographic of its staff and customers... Waitrose are dog friendly and as you would expect its demographic are largely white middle class staff and customers who are unlikely to be intimidated or repulsed by dogs and likely dog owners themselves... The slow creep of a downward trajectory continues apace. Today dogs, tomorrow...? |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 11:53 - Mar 31 with 3863 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 11:39 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Most of the Asian shops round my way have no dogs signs in the windows even ones that are ran as Post Office franchises which I think is disgusting as many old folk have assistance dogs and comfort dogs needed for confidence collecting pensions posting letters and other old school stuff etc.... Aisles and fridges full of cheap alcohol though. Strange that. Asda as you would expect being owned by the Issa brothers don't allow dogs and neither do many other UK supermarkets these days - I'm sure this wasn't the case years ago ? However, the policy seems to vary from store to store, area to area, no doubt reflecting the demographic of its staff and customers... Waitrose are dog friendly and as you would expect its demographic are largely white middle class staff and customers who are unlikely to be intimidated or repulsed by dogs and likely dog owners themselves... The slow creep of a downward trajectory continues apace. Today dogs, tomorrow...? |
Morning Dem Wish there was a Waitrose near us I’ve not been to many Last store we went in was in Thame as we needed to charge the car and it was where they live now ( Haddenham) I didn’t feel that welcome frankly though I do still have a slight Swansea twang although O do try to hide it as it makes me look common It’s why my mum sent my sister to elocution lessons If you add gentle Wirral scouse / Cheshire , it can be too sensitive for soft southern bastatd eardrums Stay frosty |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 11:56 - Mar 31 with 3864 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 11:39 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Most of the Asian shops round my way have no dogs signs in the windows even ones that are ran as Post Office franchises which I think is disgusting as many old folk have assistance dogs and comfort dogs needed for confidence collecting pensions posting letters and other old school stuff etc.... Aisles and fridges full of cheap alcohol though. Strange that. Asda as you would expect being owned by the Issa brothers don't allow dogs and neither do many other UK supermarkets these days - I'm sure this wasn't the case years ago ? However, the policy seems to vary from store to store, area to area, no doubt reflecting the demographic of its staff and customers... Waitrose are dog friendly and as you would expect its demographic are largely white middle class staff and customers who are unlikely to be intimidated or repulsed by dogs and likely dog owners themselves... The slow creep of a downward trajectory continues apace. Today dogs, tomorrow...? |
No dogs in Wetherspoons either. Although I’m petty sure Tim Martin isn’t Muslim. Edit: just checked ans Asda allow guide dogs and assistance dogs in all their UK stores. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:01]
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| Its our dogs next on 12:00 - Mar 31 with 3850 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 11:56 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | No dogs in Wetherspoons either. Although I’m petty sure Tim Martin isn’t Muslim. Edit: just checked ans Asda allow guide dogs and assistance dogs in all their UK stores. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:01]
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And I wouldn’t drag my dog into any Wetherspoons as she doesn’t like walking on sticky shitty carpets that pissheads have thrown up on Still , she would probably eat one of their steaks but that’s because Labs aren’t fussy and greedy |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 12:31 - Mar 31 with 3829 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 12:00 - Mar 31 by onehunglow | And I wouldn’t drag my dog into any Wetherspoons as she doesn’t like walking on sticky shitty carpets that pissheads have thrown up on Still , she would probably eat one of their steaks but that’s because Labs aren’t fussy and greedy |
Not the point. The clip and article was about the ongoing and rapid increase in places that allow dogs. Nothing to do with the suggestion that ‘some’ particular group are pushing back. Unfortunately this was turned into race rage bait, as usual’ by the Basil the Great X account then retweeted by Tommy Robinson. Personally, I love dogs but there are areas I’d rather they weren’t. Guide dogs excepted of course. Which is the law. |  | |  |
| Its our dogs next on 12:33 - Mar 31 with 3830 views | Demitrius |
| Its our dogs next on 11:56 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | No dogs in Wetherspoons either. Although I’m petty sure Tim Martin isn’t Muslim. Edit: just checked ans Asda allow guide dogs and assistance dogs in all their UK stores. [Post edited 31 Mar 12:01]
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Wetherspoons don't allow music or show sports either - like Sam Smiths pubs they are a chain. Spoons attract a certain type and anything divisive fuelled by cheap booze is removed as a potential flashpoint. My post may have been misleading - I know most supermarkets and shops including Asda allow assistance/guide dogs my point was not allowing PET dogs on leads which seems wrong when many folk's unruly crotch goblins are running around causing chaos. I'm pretty sure walking into a shop or PO or bank in the past and seeing people chatting with dogs on leads was commonplace. It's disappeared with big f-off A4 sized "No Dogs" signs everywhere. The local shops I refer to don't specify exceptions so its designed to discourage. There have also been incidents where assistance dogs have been refused entry and that was the reason for posting this in the first place. You obviously don't think so or are at least pretending you don't but Muslims have a problem with dogs - Fact - Not all, some will be dog owners themselves such as my mate's Bangladeshi wife who owns a Retriever - But most do in my experience. As an example my mate left his jacket in one of the local cuzza houses - regular customer but turned up next day with his docile Alsatian on a lead and the guys in there shat themselves handed it back to him with the door ajar looking terrified. I find that weird as dogs are part of our culture but not theirs and the same is true of many other cultures that are uncomfortable with our societal norms. We shouldn't change to accomodate others prejudices or preferences it should be the other way around but increasingly through weak political will at all levels it doesn't happen.... |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 12:40 - Mar 31 with 3820 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 12:33 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Wetherspoons don't allow music or show sports either - like Sam Smiths pubs they are a chain. Spoons attract a certain type and anything divisive fuelled by cheap booze is removed as a potential flashpoint. My post may have been misleading - I know most supermarkets and shops including Asda allow assistance/guide dogs my point was not allowing PET dogs on leads which seems wrong when many folk's unruly crotch goblins are running around causing chaos. I'm pretty sure walking into a shop or PO or bank in the past and seeing people chatting with dogs on leads was commonplace. It's disappeared with big f-off A4 sized "No Dogs" signs everywhere. The local shops I refer to don't specify exceptions so its designed to discourage. There have also been incidents where assistance dogs have been refused entry and that was the reason for posting this in the first place. You obviously don't think so or are at least pretending you don't but Muslims have a problem with dogs - Fact - Not all, some will be dog owners themselves such as my mate's Bangladeshi wife who owns a Retriever - But most do in my experience. As an example my mate left his jacket in one of the local cuzza houses - regular customer but turned up next day with his docile Alsatian on a lead and the guys in there shat themselves handed it back to him with the door ajar looking terrified. I find that weird as dogs are part of our culture but not theirs and the same is true of many other cultures that are uncomfortable with our societal norms. We shouldn't change to accomodate others prejudices or preferences it should be the other way around but increasingly through weak political will at all levels it doesn't happen.... |
Some extreme ones do but it’s not the norm and generates an unnecessary amount of outrage. Same reason that sign for no dogs in a London park from years ago pops up every now and then. A rare occurrence that still makes people very cross. I agree with you about unruly kids. The assistance thing is annoying but I bet most would acquiesce to registered ones which would then be ok.. Shame we have to have the rule but without it some would take the muck. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Its our dogs next on 12:40 - Mar 31 with 3818 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 12:31 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | Not the point. The clip and article was about the ongoing and rapid increase in places that allow dogs. Nothing to do with the suggestion that ‘some’ particular group are pushing back. Unfortunately this was turned into race rage bait, as usual’ by the Basil the Great X account then retweeted by Tommy Robinson. Personally, I love dogs but there are areas I’d rather they weren’t. Guide dogs excepted of course. Which is the law. |
Well it’s my point Looking around I would rather trust a dog than many humans Dogs are unacceptable to Muslims You either accept our land has been taken for ver or not You either care about our cultures or not and our freedoms This land is your land This land is my land From Thurso To the Isles of Scilly |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 12:44 - Mar 31 with 3817 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 12:40 - Mar 31 by onehunglow | Well it’s my point Looking around I would rather trust a dog than many humans Dogs are unacceptable to Muslims You either accept our land has been taken for ver or not You either care about our cultures or not and our freedoms This land is your land This land is my land From Thurso To the Isles of Scilly |
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| Its our dogs next on 12:53 - Mar 31 with 3812 views | Demitrius | Respectfully Gwyn I disagree.... To find a non-UK born Muslim that is comfortable with dogs is rare. It's not just those of the Islamic faith there are plenty of other folks from parts of the World where dogs are not domestic animals that cross the street when they see a dog even on a lead. That is my lived experience and that of most dog owners I know. It's one of many things that immigrants need educating about this country. Citizenship classes and exams should be mandatory like they are in many other countries. That will never happen with open borders. |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 12:58 - Mar 31 with 3801 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 12:44 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | I have no idea what you’re talking about. |
I post simply and straightforward I don’t go down the sophistry route This land is your land …. Check out the ouevre of Woodie Guthrie [Post edited 31 Mar 12:59]
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| Its our dogs next on 13:00 - Mar 31 with 3796 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 12:53 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Respectfully Gwyn I disagree.... To find a non-UK born Muslim that is comfortable with dogs is rare. It's not just those of the Islamic faith there are plenty of other folks from parts of the World where dogs are not domestic animals that cross the street when they see a dog even on a lead. That is my lived experience and that of most dog owners I know. It's one of many things that immigrants need educating about this country. Citizenship classes and exams should be mandatory like they are in many other countries. That will never happen with open borders. |
And are they trying to get you (sic) to get rid of your dog? If they are it’s not working as the clip is about the huge increase in the amount of dog owners and where they’re allowed to go. As an aside, should we stop Jews eating kosher? Should that go into the citizenship classes. |  | |  |
| Its our dogs next on 13:06 - Mar 31 with 3784 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 13:00 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | And are they trying to get you (sic) to get rid of your dog? If they are it’s not working as the clip is about the huge increase in the amount of dog owners and where they’re allowed to go. As an aside, should we stop Jews eating kosher? Should that go into the citizenship classes. |
No sic Yes they are Makes me wonder if they would have a Guide Dog or an assistance dog My sister in law trains hearing dogs , who are quite extraordinary You looked at Woody’ s work yet? I don’t believe animal should suffer ritual slaughter courtesy of a fairy tale collection from 2000 yrs ago This country should ban halal and kosher No religious artifacts not doctrine should be sacrosanct None Clear ? [Post edited 31 Mar 13:09]
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| Its our dogs next on 13:49 - Mar 31 with 3755 views | Demitrius | Yes they are. Given the opportunity they will, aided and abetted by their increasing political influence in the UK and other Western countries. Alcohol, Dogs, Bacon Rolls, Kafirun eating during Ramadan....give it time. Nice liberal people need to wake up to the fact that Islam even in it's more moderate incarnations is an inflexible political and life ideology - I would hesistate to call it a religion becasue it can never be secularly tolerant. It seeks to convert by the sword, by force on pain of death. There is little joy in it or celebration of life it is drenched in misery, self loathing and death. It's dangerous as any other totalitarian ideology and it's here in the UK and its creeping influence is growing by the day. You can pass each and every incident off as right wing scaremongering but as Robert Zimmerman, a scion of the liberal counterculture that would no doubt be scorned as a Zionist apologist these days once famously opined "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".... As a starting point I'd read the Quran if you haven't, then the Satanic Verses and then the endless accounts of ex-Muslims who have renounced their faith and their stories of the true nature and intent of Islam and the driving forces behind its increasing global influence. So called Islamophobia didn't create itself . Not you, not me, not the left's favourite hate figures of Tommy or Rupert or Nigel or Suella...People flying planes into buildings and blowing up children at pop concerts and beheading aid workers in the name of Islam did that while being cheered on by millions of Infidel hating Mu'min across the World ......The devil reveals himself by his actions in the eyes of the World. Bugger the gardening I think I need a pint in the local beer garden now....while I still can... [Post edited 31 Mar 14:15]
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| Its our dogs next on 14:00 - Mar 31 with 3748 views | Scotia |
| Its our dogs next on 11:39 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Most of the Asian shops round my way have no dogs signs in the windows even ones that are ran as Post Office franchises which I think is disgusting as many old folk have assistance dogs and comfort dogs needed for confidence collecting pensions posting letters and other old school stuff etc.... Aisles and fridges full of cheap alcohol though. Strange that. Asda as you would expect being owned by the Issa brothers don't allow dogs and neither do many other UK supermarkets these days - I'm sure this wasn't the case years ago ? However, the policy seems to vary from store to store, area to area, no doubt reflecting the demographic of its staff and customers... Waitrose are dog friendly and as you would expect its demographic are largely white middle class staff and customers who are unlikely to be intimidated or repulsed by dogs and likely dog owners themselves... The slow creep of a downward trajectory continues apace. Today dogs, tomorrow...? |
Refusal of admittance to fully trained assistance dog to a shop is considered disability discrimination. Aside from that there seems to be no finer example of the downward trajectory of society than this thread. |  | |  |
| Its our dogs next on 14:12 - Mar 31 with 3740 views | Demitrius |
| Its our dogs next on 14:00 - Mar 31 by Scotia | Refusal of admittance to fully trained assistance dog to a shop is considered disability discrimination. Aside from that there seems to be no finer example of the downward trajectory of society than this thread. |
Yes we know.... Doesn't stop it happening though and it's a growing trend when the opposite should be true. "A current survey shows three out of four guide dog owners have been refused entry at some point in their lives and 49% refused in the last year" - source Liverpool Guide Dogs Mobility Team. |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 14:17 - Mar 31 with 3731 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 14:00 - Mar 31 by Scotia | Refusal of admittance to fully trained assistance dog to a shop is considered disability discrimination. Aside from that there seems to be no finer example of the downward trajectory of society than this thread. |
It’s absolutely the type of thread that should see far more posting as it underpins our very being on this country It’s fundamental |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 14:48 - Mar 31 with 3707 views | Scotia |
| Its our dogs next on 14:12 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Yes we know.... Doesn't stop it happening though and it's a growing trend when the opposite should be true. "A current survey shows three out of four guide dog owners have been refused entry at some point in their lives and 49% refused in the last year" - source Liverpool Guide Dogs Mobility Team. |
And the refusal that 75% of respondants has experienced has been at Asian shops has it? Will anyone admit to actually reading the BBC article or are you just responding to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's rage bait and jumpiing on his Islamophobia? [Post edited 31 Mar 14:51]
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| Its our dogs next on 15:12 - Mar 31 with 3666 views | Gwyn737 |
| Its our dogs next on 13:49 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Yes they are. Given the opportunity they will, aided and abetted by their increasing political influence in the UK and other Western countries. Alcohol, Dogs, Bacon Rolls, Kafirun eating during Ramadan....give it time. Nice liberal people need to wake up to the fact that Islam even in it's more moderate incarnations is an inflexible political and life ideology - I would hesistate to call it a religion becasue it can never be secularly tolerant. It seeks to convert by the sword, by force on pain of death. There is little joy in it or celebration of life it is drenched in misery, self loathing and death. It's dangerous as any other totalitarian ideology and it's here in the UK and its creeping influence is growing by the day. You can pass each and every incident off as right wing scaremongering but as Robert Zimmerman, a scion of the liberal counterculture that would no doubt be scorned as a Zionist apologist these days once famously opined "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows".... As a starting point I'd read the Quran if you haven't, then the Satanic Verses and then the endless accounts of ex-Muslims who have renounced their faith and their stories of the true nature and intent of Islam and the driving forces behind its increasing global influence. So called Islamophobia didn't create itself . Not you, not me, not the left's favourite hate figures of Tommy or Rupert or Nigel or Suella...People flying planes into buildings and blowing up children at pop concerts and beheading aid workers in the name of Islam did that while being cheered on by millions of Infidel hating Mu'min across the World ......The devil reveals himself by his actions in the eyes of the World. Bugger the gardening I think I need a pint in the local beer garden now....while I still can... [Post edited 31 Mar 14:15]
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Where is the reduction in the opportunity to buy alcohol and bacon rolls? The article says that dog ownership continues to grow. When will this change? I’d say you’ll be fine having a bacon roll and a beer in a beer garden with a dog for ever. |  | |  |
| Its our dogs next on 15:13 - Mar 31 with 3664 views | onehunglow |
| Its our dogs next on 14:48 - Mar 31 by Scotia | And the refusal that 75% of respondants has experienced has been at Asian shops has it? Will anyone admit to actually reading the BBC article or are you just responding to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's rage bait and jumpiing on his Islamophobia? [Post edited 31 Mar 14:51]
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Islamophobia ? Count me in I don’t like homosexuals and females being hounded because of what they are Hell, I’m not keen on arranged marriages as well Tommy says ? No , I say And many do And no religion too You may say I’m a dreamer But I’m not the only one ( sorry John) |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 15:17 - Mar 31 with 3667 views | Demitrius |
| Its our dogs next on 14:48 - Mar 31 by Scotia | And the refusal that 75% of respondants has experienced has been at Asian shops has it? Will anyone admit to actually reading the BBC article or are you just responding to Stephen Yaxley-Lennon's rage bait and jumpiing on his Islamophobia? [Post edited 31 Mar 14:51]
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Putting words into others mouths because you read an opinion you disagree with? How depressingly predictable I'll humour you as I do all outraged lefties by suggesting instead that all of the 75% were simply allergic to dogs and would have gone into an immediate anaphylactic shock ... I'd also suggest that the silly twonk in the BBC article who has an irrational fear of dogs seeks exposure therapy or CBT instead of expecting the entire World to bend and bow to her demands. There you have it - the crux of the rising anger in reasonable people - the majority having to pander to and be inconvenienced by a minority with a peverse sense of entitlement. People have had years of this b*****ks rammed down their throats and are sick of it - we hear you but we don't care anymore. Dont like it ? Then off you trot... |  |
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| Its our dogs next on 15:23 - Mar 31 with 3662 views | Scotia |
| Its our dogs next on 15:17 - Mar 31 by Demitrius | Putting words into others mouths because you read an opinion you disagree with? How depressingly predictable I'll humour you as I do all outraged lefties by suggesting instead that all of the 75% were simply allergic to dogs and would have gone into an immediate anaphylactic shock ... I'd also suggest that the silly twonk in the BBC article who has an irrational fear of dogs seeks exposure therapy or CBT instead of expecting the entire World to bend and bow to her demands. There you have it - the crux of the rising anger in reasonable people - the majority having to pander to and be inconvenienced by a minority with a peverse sense of entitlement. People have had years of this b*****ks rammed down their throats and are sick of it - we hear you but we don't care anymore. Dont like it ? Then off you trot... |
I'm not a leftie. I'm just not racist. I've read the article, yes I agree someone with Cynophobia needs CBT and to get on with their lives as best as they can. I'm just questioning why an article that makes no reference to any form of religion or race has led to a blatanly Islamophobic / racist thread? |  | |  |
| Its our dogs next on 15:29 - Mar 31 with 3658 views | Demitrius |
| Its our dogs next on 15:12 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737 | Where is the reduction in the opportunity to buy alcohol and bacon rolls? The article says that dog ownership continues to grow. When will this change? I’d say you’ll be fine having a bacon roll and a beer in a beer garden with a dog for ever. |
Try getting a bacon roll in Sparkbrook or Tower Hamlets... Not impossible but I'd reasonably argue it was a lot easier 30 years ago...as was finding a decent pub... Demographic change over time is inevitable of course, especially in cities but the scale and speed and volume of it and the singular nature of one group driving most of it is what alarms most people. It's unprecidented and dangerously managed to the point of being culturally suicidal... |  |
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