| Ben Cabango banned from driving 13:11 - Aug 3 with 10285 views | KeithHaynes |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:10 - Aug 30 with 1373 views | Whiterockin |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:04 - Aug 30 by ncswan |
WR, some of us don't subscribe to WOL. Can you give a quick synopsis on this article, please. Thanks! |
Basically a cyclist filmed him on a head cam and gave it to the police. He was grassed up. |  | | |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:27 - Aug 30 with 1312 views | KeithHaynes |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:10 - Aug 30 by Whiterockin |
Basically a cyclist filmed him on a head cam and gave it to the police. He was grassed up. |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:32 - Aug 30 with 1296 views | ncswan |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:10 - Aug 30 by Whiterockin |
Basically a cyclist filmed him on a head cam and gave it to the police. He was grassed up. |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 21:54 - Aug 30 with 1182 views | jack_lord |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 20:10 - Aug 30 by Whiterockin |
Basically a cyclist filmed him on a head cam and gave it to the police. He was grassed up. |
Wasn't he watching a video on his phone while waiting at traffic lights?
I've spent the last 25 years as a Field Engineer and the amount of men and women watching their phones while driving has spiralled out of control. I have changed jobs recently so away from it at last but a couple of months ago I think there was an occasion where every other car I past on the M4 had the driver on their phones.
Cabango being done for watching it at traffic lights is a bit harsh if that is the only time he was watching it and the cyclist must be a cardiff fan |  |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 09:48 - Aug 31 with 1011 views | onehunglow |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 21:54 - Aug 30 by jack_lord |
Wasn't he watching a video on his phone while waiting at traffic lights?
I've spent the last 25 years as a Field Engineer and the amount of men and women watching their phones while driving has spiralled out of control. I have changed jobs recently so away from it at last but a couple of months ago I think there was an occasion where every other car I past on the M4 had the driver on their phones.
Cabango being done for watching it at traffic lights is a bit harsh if that is the only time he was watching it and the cyclist must be a cardiff fan |
It’s a lethal practice
Driving requires total concentration contraction otherwise you can die if you don’t | |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 12:18 - Aug 31 with 924 views | RodgerTheDodger |
The reason why watching a video waiting at the lights is dangerous is because of the way our vision works.
We don't actually directly 'see', we have a constructed model of reality in our mind. Data from the eyes is the primary source of information updating that, also balance to a lesser extent, with a very minor input from hearing. That model is always slightly behind reality, and if you get vertigo with conflicting inputs from eyes and balance and you will find it 'flicks' with a firm image about once a second. Plus you throw-up.
If you look down at the car radio that image is only very partially replaced, and when you look up, it's back fully almost immediately. If you watch a video, play a game on your phone, or text, it is entirely replaced and has to be constructed from nothing when you look up again. What comes back first is tunnel vision then over about 2 seconds (longer for the elderly) full peripheral vision is reconstructed. During that time, during which you have moved off and are now driving, your appreciation of hazards beyond the bumper in front of you is almost zero. That's why it's dangerous.
Having said that, I think I would prefer people in a 10mph motorway queue happily on their phone looking at the traffic, than sitting there losing their temper. So get a dashmount. | | | |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 13:25 - Aug 31 with 873 views | ncswan |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 12:18 - Aug 31 by RodgerTheDodger |
The reason why watching a video waiting at the lights is dangerous is because of the way our vision works.
We don't actually directly 'see', we have a constructed model of reality in our mind. Data from the eyes is the primary source of information updating that, also balance to a lesser extent, with a very minor input from hearing. That model is always slightly behind reality, and if you get vertigo with conflicting inputs from eyes and balance and you will find it 'flicks' with a firm image about once a second. Plus you throw-up.
If you look down at the car radio that image is only very partially replaced, and when you look up, it's back fully almost immediately. If you watch a video, play a game on your phone, or text, it is entirely replaced and has to be constructed from nothing when you look up again. What comes back first is tunnel vision then over about 2 seconds (longer for the elderly) full peripheral vision is reconstructed. During that time, during which you have moved off and are now driving, your appreciation of hazards beyond the bumper in front of you is almost zero. That's why it's dangerous.
Having said that, I think I would prefer people in a 10mph motorway queue happily on their phone looking at the traffic, than sitting there losing their temper. So get a dashmount. |
RTD, what you've stated makes sense, and like you know what you're talking about. Is this something that you've heard or read about? Or, is there a study that you could cite where you got your information from? Here in the USA, I see a lot of folks looking at their phone, texting or reading texts or surfing the internet at stop lights or worse yet, while cruising down the highways. So unsafe doing it while driving. | | | |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 14:26 - Aug 31 with 820 views | onehunglow |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 12:18 - Aug 31 by RodgerTheDodger |
The reason why watching a video waiting at the lights is dangerous is because of the way our vision works.
We don't actually directly 'see', we have a constructed model of reality in our mind. Data from the eyes is the primary source of information updating that, also balance to a lesser extent, with a very minor input from hearing. That model is always slightly behind reality, and if you get vertigo with conflicting inputs from eyes and balance and you will find it 'flicks' with a firm image about once a second. Plus you throw-up.
If you look down at the car radio that image is only very partially replaced, and when you look up, it's back fully almost immediately. If you watch a video, play a game on your phone, or text, it is entirely replaced and has to be constructed from nothing when you look up again. What comes back first is tunnel vision then over about 2 seconds (longer for the elderly) full peripheral vision is reconstructed. During that time, during which you have moved off and are now driving, your appreciation of hazards beyond the bumper in front of you is almost zero. That's why it's dangerous.
Having said that, I think I would prefer people in a 10mph motorway queue happily on their phone looking at the traffic, than sitting there losing their temper. So get a dashmount. |
Jesus
It’s simply concentration
Right now I’ve even stopped listening to music whilst driving nor do I talk to passengers much
The roads and its hazards require full concentration
Trust me, most collisions occur through lapses of concentration
Why the folk would anyone watch a video or even a photo whilst at the controls of two ton of metal
We have utterly lost perspective of what is required whilst driving
Car seizure of those using phones would sort this out immediately
Imagine driving in days before mobile phones [Post edited 31 Aug 14:27]
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 15:14 - Aug 31 with 769 views | Whiterockin |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 14:26 - Aug 31 by onehunglow |
Jesus
It’s simply concentration
Right now I’ve even stopped listening to music whilst driving nor do I talk to passengers much
The roads and its hazards require full concentration
Trust me, most collisions occur through lapses of concentration
Why the folk would anyone watch a video or even a photo whilst at the controls of two ton of metal
We have utterly lost perspective of what is required whilst driving
Car seizure of those using phones would sort this out immediately
Imagine driving in days before mobile phones [Post edited 31 Aug 14:27]
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Are you sure you should be driving. | | | |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 15:27 - Aug 31 with 748 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 13:25 - Aug 31 by ncswan |
RTD, what you've stated makes sense, and like you know what you're talking about. Is this something that you've heard or read about? Or, is there a study that you could cite where you got your information from? Here in the USA, I see a lot of folks looking at their phone, texting or reading texts or surfing the internet at stop lights or worse yet, while cruising down the highways. So unsafe doing it while driving. |
I don't have a study I can point to. I have personal experience of vertigo few years ago. Crawling to the khazi on all fours, splayed, because I had conflicting signals on what was 'up', followed by 2 hours of throwing up. The strange flick, pause, flick of the 'visual image' I was seeing.
The rest of it is information I've picked, both from investigating my own experience and family. As a thought experiment: You wake up in a strange room from a deep sleep. How long does it take to register where you are, and how the room looks. If sight was immediate, you would open your eyes and immediately 'see' the whole room. But you don't, it takes a few seconds to build the visual image from blank with a room you don't know.
Talking while driving is dangerous in traffic. In business I always enforced the protocol that if the person driving says 'traffic' (hands free or I cut the conversation) then conversation stops until they restart it. OTOH on a highway with nothing within 200 metres they can safely chat happily. But they are looking at the road, they have the visual image, so it's a lot safer than interacting with their screen. | | | |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 16:00 - Aug 31 with 717 views | onehunglow |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 15:27 - Aug 31 by RodgerTheDodger |
I don't have a study I can point to. I have personal experience of vertigo few years ago. Crawling to the khazi on all fours, splayed, because I had conflicting signals on what was 'up', followed by 2 hours of throwing up. The strange flick, pause, flick of the 'visual image' I was seeing.
The rest of it is information I've picked, both from investigating my own experience and family. As a thought experiment: You wake up in a strange room from a deep sleep. How long does it take to register where you are, and how the room looks. If sight was immediate, you would open your eyes and immediately 'see' the whole room. But you don't, it takes a few seconds to build the visual image from blank with a room you don't know.
Talking while driving is dangerous in traffic. In business I always enforced the protocol that if the person driving says 'traffic' (hands free or I cut the conversation) then conversation stops until they restart it. OTOH on a highway with nothing within 200 metres they can safely chat happily. But they are looking at the road, they have the visual image, so it's a lot safer than interacting with their screen. |
Wife has had vertigo and it’s no joke
It’s very uncomfortable and can return | |
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| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 19:17 - Aug 31 with 635 views | RodgerTheDodger |
| Ben Cabango banned from driving on 16:00 - Aug 31 by onehunglow |
Wife has had vertigo and it’s no joke
It’s very uncomfortable and can return |
Vertigo in those over 40 is often caused by BPPV, for which there is a simple treatment, the Epley maneuver is almost always a successful. It's caused by the junk that collects in the sack at the bottom of the balance canals with age getting disrurbed and straying into the canals. A whack to the head is the most common cause (car accident).
If it has come along with loss of hearing it's probably disease, which is a different thing all together. [Post edited 1 Sep 0:43]
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