| Dear me 13:30 - Aug 10 with 20434 views | max936 |
230 More illegal immigrants to clothe and feed, no wonder the clueless Labour government want to put our taxes up,
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| Dear me on 20:59 - Aug 11 with 1752 views | raynor94 |
| Dear me on 20:15 - Aug 11 by max936 |
There's a few on here who are happy to see their taxes wasted and an abundance of the soft wokey left in the Senedd our very own party of Wales Plaid Cymru who portray themselves as the party for Wales and the party for the people of Wales, they're an absolute joke you only got to see their videos to realise that, they either walk out if they don't like the questions asked or that awful woman Sioned Williams gets angry and starts shouting, none of them are fit to govern. |
Plaid Cymru identify as the party of sanctuary welcoming God knows who on to our streets they are a disgrace |  |
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| Dear me on 21:35 - Aug 11 with 1708 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Dear me on 19:21 - Aug 11 by Boundy |
We’re nearly approaching the 86th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, a battle in which technology played a vital part in helping us win that battle , one vital component which helped was radar , maybe in someone could suggest we switch ours back on or would that be too difficult?. You have repeatedly told us that the crossings have become less so if that’s fact why would we need so many . |
Yep. It’s only a short time ago relatively speaking we were holding back the might of the luftwaffe and kriegsmarine when the rest of Europe had fallen in weeks.
Now we can’t hold back a bunch of uber drivers and car washers in what are essentially floating mattresses with a fisher price motor attached to them.
“Too difficult to keep them out”? Don’t make me laugh. We’ve just put the white flag up because nobody has the testicular fortitude to stop them. |  |
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| Dear me on 21:37 - Aug 11 with 1706 views | max936 |
| Dear me on 20:59 - Aug 11 by raynor94 |
Plaid Cymru identify as the party of sanctuary welcoming God knows who on to our streets they are a disgrace |
They think they're clever by referring to them as refugees, that's how dull they are and people can see right through them.
And they've not got the right to ok a nation of sanctuary, that's not what the majority of the people of Wales. | | | |
| Dear me on 22:10 - Aug 11 with 1662 views | Boundy |
| Dear me on 21:35 - Aug 11 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yep. It’s only a short time ago relatively speaking we were holding back the might of the luftwaffe and kriegsmarine when the rest of Europe had fallen in weeks.
Now we can’t hold back a bunch of uber drivers and car washers in what are essentially floating mattresses with a fisher price motor attached to them.
“Too difficult to keep them out”? Don’t make me laugh. We’ve just put the white flag up because nobody has the testicular fortitude to stop them. |
This from our PM when referring to the story concerning a little village in Oxfordshire with a population of 400 people which has been deemed suitable to house nearly 1.3k from the 3rd world and are putting up a fight to stop this madness ,instead of saying I agree we must stop the boats and that is my sworn duty but this :
"I have begun to become aware of the campaign from Piddington, and I will listen to what people are saying and respond to the concerns that they are putting forward.
"I don't know the issue yet in detail, but in some ways, as I understand it, it is about creating secure space and not have the HMO issues that you were talking about earlier.
"It's obviously going to be challenging, but I am prepared always to listen to people, to work with people and to pick up legitimate concerns, and I will address those concerns.
"I do have to say we cannot have a situation where it's only the poorest communities in the country that receive all of the dispersal of refugees and asylum seekers.
"I do believe all parts of the country need to work, to play their part. It's a challenging issue.
"We're working at it, we understand people's concerns, and I will look into the issues raised by the good people of Piddington." |  |
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| Dear me on 22:18 - Aug 11 with 1658 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Dear me on 19:30 - Aug 11 by Boundy |
Why should we give up our freedoms because of someone who ignores our laws . You must have missed the memo in which our governments now and previously have ignored the fact that these illegals have no documentation but can automatically claim benefits , be housed in, fed and watered and turn a blind eye to some working , advocate giving them voting rights . We don’t need ID cards , we need a strong government and if the thought of Reform/Restore gaining power frightens you then toughen up because at some point should we survive a right of centre party will hold the upper hand |
You do not have to do anything and accept the Status Quo. In that case why complain.?
I have made suggestions how migration can be controlled and managed . I have given you an example of Turkiye which has repatriated thousands of refugees. UK has repatriated a hardly any.
In an era of mass migration having a Welfare stats is a honey pot to a bee. I am a taxpayer and my tax is increasing. A loosely run welfare state in a period of deliberately coordinated mass migration controlled by smugglers using the RNLi is extremely frustrating..
Digital id does not bother me at all. We already gave camera and facial recognition. Mobile phones carry a wealth of intelligence.
The illegals want looseness and to deal in cash and avoid paying for all the freebies my taxes pay for. If you want a welfare state it must be seriously managed. Pay you way and get the digital iD. Work illegally in cash with no official status then you get no state services. NHS Schools driving licence accomodation. Once these services are removed migrants will volunteer to leave.
This is what the Turks are doing. It works. They were initially very generous but are now very hard. The Syrian came as guests and now must go home. Few even complain. Turkiye is not in the EU like UK and can make it's own laws. Turks paid for every thing and men have to do national service migrants do not.
Reform Restore are frauds. What I have written here is tough and fair. Restore and Reform will not be able to enforce their policies without intelligence and police powers. No need for ICE. When service are cut unregistered or unapproved migrants will volunteer themselves. They will have no official status. Leaving is the sensible option.
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"Turkey facilitates the voluntary and official repatriation of Syrian refugees to Syria, a process that accelerated significantly following the fall of the Bashar al-Assad regime. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have returned home from Turkey under coordination by Turkish migration authorities."
500,000 "guests" have returned in 18 months. The Turks have leverage. [Post edited 11 Aug 22:46]
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| Dear me on 01:49 - Aug 12 with 1563 views | Robbie |
Wales a Nation of sanctuary mun , all welcome .
Who the heck voted for Independent Wales run by Drakeford and the lefties we now have .
Wesrminster is bad enough so lets add on Tiger Bay as another coalition of uselessness . | | | |
| Dear me on 05:14 - Aug 12 with 1516 views | AnotherJohn |
Returns to France is a difficult issue but I wonder if the UK could be more aggressive in asserting its right to follow the conventional practice under international customary law of conveying persons found in distress at sea to the nearest safe port. Admittedly some HR lawyers will quibble about whether disembarkation has to be in the nearest place of safety, but this has been common practice. Only the narrowest part of the Channel (about 20.6 miles wide) is entirely within the territorial waters of the UK and France. In most other areas the UK’s 12 nautical mile zone and France’s 12 nautical mile zone do not meet. This leaves a gap of international waters — at least 14 miles between Dover and Calais, and up to about 144 miles at the Channel’s widest point. Could we not make more interceptions there, and ideally not in State owned vessels? The pickup points would be chosen so that a French port is nearer than any UK port. There would be no harm in letting the migrants know it is a British rescue vessel, while not specifying the disembarkation port. International law specifies a procedure for informing the SAR services of the country owning that port of the incoming rescue and they are not expected to refuse entry. Pipe dream perhaps, but surely worth a try in the right maritime locations. I have to admit that the UNCLOS is not within my area of expertise, but there seems to be an argument to be made.
There was a case from last year when a small boat in French waters near Calais was reported to be in difficulty and a UK Border Force vessel and RNLI lifeboat joined the rescue. They disembarked the migrants they picked up in France but our Government denied there had been any change in policy. [Post edited 12 Aug 5:45]
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| Dear me on 08:15 - Aug 12 with 1429 views | onehunglow |
Sneaked into village hall in Gronant
No consultation at all
We’ve all got to accept them , wherever we live
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| Dear me on 09:00 - Aug 12 with 1388 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 19:40 - Aug 11 by raynor94 |
Ships? I'm sure we have enough fast speed boats it's not that difficult to spot a overloaded dinghy chugging along due to it being vastly overloaded and return it to where it came from |
How do we stop them crossing in to our waters though? We can't operate in France, we can't shoot at them in France, they wouldn't stop if we asked them nicely. The only way is to physically prevent them crossing an imaginary line.
It's almost logistically impossible. | | | |
| Dear me on 09:05 - Aug 12 with 1384 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 19:21 - Aug 11 by Boundy |
We’re nearly approaching the 86th anniversary of the Battle of Britain, a battle in which technology played a vital part in helping us win that battle , one vital component which helped was radar , maybe in someone could suggest we switch ours back on or would that be too difficult?. You have repeatedly told us that the crossings have become less so if that’s fact why would we need so many . |
Do you think France would allow us to watch the entire activity underway in their territorial waters? There is no chance of that happening.
What would our fishing industry say if we allowed France to do the same. | | | |
| Dear me on 10:13 - Aug 12 with 1334 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 09:00 - Aug 12 by Scotia |
How do we stop them crossing in to our waters though? We can't operate in France, we can't shoot at them in France, they wouldn't stop if we asked them nicely. The only way is to physically prevent them crossing an imaginary line.
It's almost logistically impossible. |
So we give up then
And accommodate them
Then we clothe feed and educate them
Point is , again, we’re looking for excuses not to deal
Our country has faced invasion before and dealt with it | |
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| Dear me on 11:52 - Aug 12 with 1298 views | Boundy |
| Dear me on 10:13 - Aug 12 by onehunglow |
So we give up then
And accommodate them
Then we clothe feed and educate them
Point is , again, we’re looking for excuses not to deal
Our country has faced invasion before and dealt with it |
We’ve become a nation of cheese eating surrender monkeys , well not all of us but enough to make you think even harder what this country actually stands for. We can’t do this , we can’t do that so let’s do nothing 🤨 | |
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| Dear me on 11:55 - Aug 12 with 1297 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Dear me on 09:05 - Aug 12 by Scotia |
Do you think France would allow us to watch the entire activity underway in their territorial waters? There is no chance of that happening.
What would our fishing industry say if we allowed France to do the same. |
If the French navy are actively escorting the migrants into British waters then what’s to stop our navy escorting them back? It’s just the political will to do so that’s lacking. It’s a very naive view that we shouldn’t be allowed to do exactly what the French have done for years. | |
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| Dear me on 11:59 - Aug 12 with 1293 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 11:52 - Aug 12 by Boundy |
We’ve become a nation of cheese eating surrender monkeys , well not all of us but enough to make you think even harder what this country actually stands for. We can’t do this , we can’t do that so let’s do nothing 🤨 |
I’m quite partial to cheese myself but Brie and Camembert are no good for you | |
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| Dear me on 12:03 - Aug 12 with 1288 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Dear me on 22:10 - Aug 11 by Boundy |
This from our PM when referring to the story concerning a little village in Oxfordshire with a population of 400 people which has been deemed suitable to house nearly 1.3k from the 3rd world and are putting up a fight to stop this madness ,instead of saying I agree we must stop the boats and that is my sworn duty but this :
"I have begun to become aware of the campaign from Piddington, and I will listen to what people are saying and respond to the concerns that they are putting forward.
"I don't know the issue yet in detail, but in some ways, as I understand it, it is about creating secure space and not have the HMO issues that you were talking about earlier.
"It's obviously going to be challenging, but I am prepared always to listen to people, to work with people and to pick up legitimate concerns, and I will address those concerns.
"I do have to say we cannot have a situation where it's only the poorest communities in the country that receive all of the dispersal of refugees and asylum seekers.
"I do believe all parts of the country need to work, to play their part. It's a challenging issue.
"We're working at it, we understand people's concerns, and I will look into the issues raised by the good people of Piddington." |
This is becoming a moral issue now. So many people who have lived here, worked here, paid their taxes all their lives are really struggling to get on the property ladder, yet people rocking up illegally off the boats are getting brand new build houses for free.
And people wonder why tensions are at an all time high. | |
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| Dear me on 12:06 - Aug 12 with 1284 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 12:03 - Aug 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
This is becoming a moral issue now. So many people who have lived here, worked here, paid their taxes all their lives are really struggling to get on the property ladder, yet people rocking up illegally off the boats are getting brand new build houses for free.
And people wonder why tensions are at an all time high. |
Things have been quieter of late until Thetford
People are seething made worse when the usual suspects are bleeding for the migrants
They’re not vulnerable Ange , merely chancers | |
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| Dear me on 12:25 - Aug 12 with 1256 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 11:55 - Aug 12 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If the French navy are actively escorting the migrants into British waters then what’s to stop our navy escorting them back? It’s just the political will to do so that’s lacking. It’s a very naive view that we shouldn’t be allowed to do exactly what the French have done for years. |
They're not. | | | |
| Dear me on 12:30 - Aug 12 with 1254 views | raynor94 |
| Dear me on 09:05 - Aug 12 by Scotia |
Do you think France would allow us to watch the entire activity underway in their territorial waters? There is no chance of that happening.
What would our fishing industry say if we allowed France to do the same. |
There's a massive difference between the fishing industry and god knows who arriving on a dinghy with no passport or any identity documents
You reap what you sow god help our children and grandchildren for what they face in the future | |
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| Dear me on 12:34 - Aug 12 with 1247 views | onehunglow |
| Dear me on 12:30 - Aug 12 by raynor94 |
There's a massive difference between the fishing industry and god knows who arriving on a dinghy with no passport or any identity documents
You reap what you sow god help our children and grandchildren for what they face in the future |
We’ve not yet grasped the notion we do not have to accept these people and then provide for them | |
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| Dear me on 12:34 - Aug 12 with 1240 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 10:13 - Aug 12 by onehunglow |
So we give up then
And accommodate them
Then we clothe feed and educate them
Point is , again, we’re looking for excuses not to deal
Our country has faced invasion before and dealt with it |
No. It's a problem that needs to be solved, but to solve it we need to understand the cause and find appropriate solutions.
They're coming to work - reduce the need
We also need to understand the scale of the problem. We have less asylum seekers than most other similar countries. Only 5% of those come on small boats. We seem to ignore the other 95% .
The vast majority of migrants are here legally, either because they're studying or working. We need the workers because British people don't want to do the jobs the migrants are doing - that has to stop.
But we also need to end this misinformation, that's getting us nowhere. | | | |
| Dear me on 12:44 - Aug 12 with 1228 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 10:13 - Aug 12 by onehunglow |
So we give up then
And accommodate them
Then we clothe feed and educate them
Point is , again, we’re looking for excuses not to deal
Our country has faced invasion before and dealt with it |
No. It's a problem that needs to be solved, but to solve it we need to understand the cause and find appropriate solutions.
They're coming to work - reduce the need
We also need to understand the scale of the problem. We have less asylum seekers than most other similar countries. Only 5% of those come on small boats. We seem to ignore the other 95% .
The vast majority of migrants are here legally, either because they're studying or working. We need the workers because British people don't want to do the jobs the migrants are doing - that has to stop.
But we also need to end this misinformation, that's getting us nowhere. | | | |
| Dear me on 12:54 - Aug 12 with 1231 views | Boundy |
| Dear me on 12:34 - Aug 12 by Scotia |
No. It's a problem that needs to be solved, but to solve it we need to understand the cause and find appropriate solutions.
They're coming to work - reduce the need
We also need to understand the scale of the problem. We have less asylum seekers than most other similar countries. Only 5% of those come on small boats. We seem to ignore the other 95% .
The vast majority of migrants are here legally, either because they're studying or working. We need the workers because British people don't want to do the jobs the migrants are doing - that has to stop.
But we also need to end this misinformation, that's getting us nowhere. |
again and again we're discussing illegal immigrants and your seem to believe that the majority are againgst all immigration , like the government when will you stop and actually absorb,understand and respond to whats being said .If you mean that 95% is of illegal immigrants then how are they arriving here , I know some are still arriving by vehicular transport and some via the Irish Republic so what other means are they using . | |
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| Dear me on 13:30 - Aug 12 with 1203 views | Scotia |
| Dear me on 12:54 - Aug 12 by Boundy |
again and again we're discussing illegal immigrants and your seem to believe that the majority are againgst all immigration , like the government when will you stop and actually absorb,understand and respond to whats being said .If you mean that 95% is of illegal immigrants then how are they arriving here , I know some are still arriving by vehicular transport and some via the Irish Republic so what other means are they using . |
I don't really understand that.
5% of immigrnats arrive by small(ish) boat - but a disproportionate amount of concern is direcetd to them. Only 16% of immigrants are asylum seekers, bearing in mind many of them are from the Ukraine - again not a massive issue. | | | |
| Dear me on 13:34 - Aug 12 with 1206 views | gadgetuk |
| Dear me on 21:37 - Aug 11 by max936 |
They think they're clever by referring to them as refugees, that's how dull they are and people can see right through them.
And they've not got the right to ok a nation of sanctuary, that's not what the majority of the people of Wales. |
Don't they? They stood on that platform and got voted in. | | | |
| Dear me on 13:35 - Aug 12 with 1204 views | Wingstandwood |
Coming to your street or a street near to you folks!
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