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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' 22:17 - Feb 23 with 1283 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplep

Good news, the death rate is now back within the 5 year average.

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 22:29 - Feb 23 with 1271 viewsmax936

Looking good, although the crunch comes when people are let loose, read a tweet this morning that Sage are predicting a third wave this autumn/winter, with deaths estimated to be between 62k and 107k, a Tweeter called Christopher Snow tweeted it, even Sky News run with a figure of 30k.
That either means they think that the vaccines won't work, or the uptake will get lower as they get down to the lower groups, or and a new variant will arrive that by-passes the vaccine, really hope its scaremongering, but who knows.

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 23:48 - Feb 23 with 1242 viewshobo

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 22:29 - Feb 23 by max936

Looking good, although the crunch comes when people are let loose, read a tweet this morning that Sage are predicting a third wave this autumn/winter, with deaths estimated to be between 62k and 107k, a Tweeter called Christopher Snow tweeted it, even Sky News run with a figure of 30k.
That either means they think that the vaccines won't work, or the uptake will get lower as they get down to the lower groups, or and a new variant will arrive that by-passes the vaccine, really hope its scaremongering, but who knows.


There’s really no basis to continue with this lockdown another day. Most of the vulnerable are vaccinated, and the rest of the population don’t really need it. Let’s get on with our lives
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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 01:02 - Feb 24 with 1220 viewsJack123

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 23:48 - Feb 23 by hobo

There’s really no basis to continue with this lockdown another day. Most of the vulnerable are vaccinated, and the rest of the population don’t really need it. Let’s get on with our lives


Million % agreed, but from what I am reading, I don't think they are ever going to let us get on with our lives like we used to before.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/art

I have seen lots of articles like the above today. :(

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 02:39 - Feb 24 with 1203 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 01:02 - Feb 24 by Jack123

Million % agreed, but from what I am reading, I don't think they are ever going to let us get on with our lives like we used to before.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/art

I have seen lots of articles like the above today. :(


Mmmmm. You can't fully participate in life unless you take an injection as directed by the government, what next?

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 03:17 - Feb 24 with 1199 viewsJack123

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 02:39 - Feb 24 by JACKMANANDBOY

Mmmmm. You can't fully participate in life unless you take an injection as directed by the government, what next?


I don't think they will stop until they have vaccinated everybody, young kids included, that's their purpose I think for bringing in masks and testing for children returning to school in England from March 8th, I would be very surprised if in the future the tests didn't suddenly go high for the kids..


It makes my blood boil, we are just being played and not very well either..

And don't forget Gove the one mentioned heading this covid vax discussion shall we call it, only a few weeks back categorically denied any passports to get into venues, and now he's in a government think-tank on it, how many more times can they lie to us, and get away scot free!!

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:35 - Feb 24 with 1170 viewsScotia

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 22:29 - Feb 23 by max936

Looking good, although the crunch comes when people are let loose, read a tweet this morning that Sage are predicting a third wave this autumn/winter, with deaths estimated to be between 62k and 107k, a Tweeter called Christopher Snow tweeted it, even Sky News run with a figure of 30k.
That either means they think that the vaccines won't work, or the uptake will get lower as they get down to the lower groups, or and a new variant will arrive that by-passes the vaccine, really hope its scaremongering, but who knows.


Prof Whitty said a figure of approximately 30k deaths a year from Covid going forward in the press conference on Monday.

It's based on not everyone getting the vaccine, it never being 100 effective especially in older and frail people and likely new variants.

Some of the attitudes in this thread demonstrate what we're up against.
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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:42 - Feb 24 with 1168 viewsDr_Winston

I don't know if there will be 30,000 deaths from Covid per year. Once restrictions are lifted influenza will come back into play, and given that the Venn diagram for those most at risk from Covid vs those most at risk from flu is basically just a circle it's more likely that the figure of 30,000 will be a mix of both. Winters might be a bit more lethal for a couple of years.

It's good that Westminster are being realistic and acknowledging that "Zero Covid" is not a realistic scenario. Think it's basically a given that once most people in groups 1-4 have had two shots, and the rest have been offered one, then things will open up. Wish I could be as certain about the Bay of Plenty.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:55 - Feb 24 with 1160 viewsScotia

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:42 - Feb 24 by Dr_Winston

I don't know if there will be 30,000 deaths from Covid per year. Once restrictions are lifted influenza will come back into play, and given that the Venn diagram for those most at risk from Covid vs those most at risk from flu is basically just a circle it's more likely that the figure of 30,000 will be a mix of both. Winters might be a bit more lethal for a couple of years.

It's good that Westminster are being realistic and acknowledging that "Zero Covid" is not a realistic scenario. Think it's basically a given that once most people in groups 1-4 have had two shots, and the rest have been offered one, then things will open up. Wish I could be as certain about the Bay of Plenty.


I think, but I'm not sure, he said 30,000 deaths on top of flu.
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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 08:06 - Feb 24 with 1154 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:55 - Feb 24 by Scotia

I think, but I'm not sure, he said 30,000 deaths on top of flu.


I don't think he mentioned a figure in fact he said he was not going to mention a figure.

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 08:33 - Feb 24 with 1147 viewsDr_Winston

Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 07:55 - Feb 24 by Scotia

I think, but I'm not sure, he said 30,000 deaths on top of flu.


I'm not doubting what he said. Just seems like a bit of Neil Fergusonesque pessimism.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Death rate in Wales returns to ' normal levels' on 10:32 - Feb 24 with 1109 viewsonehunglow

We need this to be good and stay good.
This summer could see us seeing the light again.

We should all welcome it

Some prefer the darkness

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