| Kiwis to ban tobacco 12:40 - Apr 16 with 569 views | onehunglow |
Wow.
Read they are planning to phase out legal sale of tobacco by 2024.
Incredible country mile ahead of the rest of the world.
First covid now this .They show us all up.
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 14:37 - Apr 16 with 535 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They have one of the world's toughest immigration policies as well. Very impressive. |  |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 15:26 - Apr 16 with 504 views | onehunglow |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 14:37 - Apr 16 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They have one of the world's toughest immigration policies as well. Very impressive. |
Hi Dwight.
They are a fine people with real pride in their nation .
No class war and real genuine people with a sense of community
We can only dream of such things | |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 16:23 - Apr 16 with 476 views | Dr_Winston |
All that will happen is that a massive, criminal enriching black market will pop up for tobacco sales.
It's truly staggering that the lessons of prohibition still haven't been learned nearly a century later. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 17:39 - Apr 16 with 435 views | pencoedjack |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 15:26 - Apr 16 by onehunglow |
Hi Dwight.
They are a fine people with real pride in their nation .
No class war and real genuine people with a sense of community
We can only dream of such things |
My son spent 2 years out there & would totally agree with you. |  | | |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 18:24 - Apr 16 with 413 views | onehunglow |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 16:23 - Apr 16 by Dr_Winston |
All that will happen is that a massive, criminal enriching black market will pop up for tobacco sales.
It's truly staggering that the lessons of prohibition still haven't been learned nearly a century later. |
Wrong.
If it means people have to get it illegally then fine.
As it is,it kills billions every year.
Depends if you want to help it end . Same with ludicrously cheap alcohol.
Sadly,both are huge business in GB and both seen as essential pleasures for too many.
New Zealand under Jackinda simply has courage we do not have. We are gutless and make excuses They are smart whilst we are dumb. The most obese nation in Eurooe ,with hear disease still a huge issue ,but hey ,,making it harder to obtain isnt the way . Well what is..
We don’t even want Covid to be truly battered as we still allow cretins in indoor spaces without a mask. When Plod catches then,then we are a fascist state . | |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 19:22 - Apr 16 with 391 views | LittleEnglandJack |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 16:23 - Apr 16 by Dr_Winston |
All that will happen is that a massive, criminal enriching black market will pop up for tobacco sales.
It's truly staggering that the lessons of prohibition still haven't been learned nearly a century later. |
Yeah, look at Australia. Some of the most expensive cigarettes in the world (nearly 50 Australian dollars for a 25 pack of Marlboro!) due to substantial duty rises every year... It also has one of the largest Black markets for Tobacco in the world, and one that is rapidly growing, increasing from 14% of the market share to over 20% in just one year between '18 and '19.
If people want to smoke, they'll smoke. I could maybe see criminalisation working in 30 or so years when attitudes to tobacco and smoking have changed even further and alternatives like vaping have grown in popularity, but we're still some way away from that yet. | | | |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 20:11 - Apr 16 with 352 views | controversial_jack |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 16:23 - Apr 16 by Dr_Winston |
All that will happen is that a massive, criminal enriching black market will pop up for tobacco sales.
It's truly staggering that the lessons of prohibition still haven't been learned nearly a century later. |
This is spot on.Where there's a demand there will be a supply, legally or illegally.Prices will go up, quality will come down and more lives will be lost.
There will be fortunes made on the black market probably out of fake tobacco.It's what has happened to street drugs and , as you rightly stated, lessons haven't been learned from prohibition
It will satisfy the moralists and the virtue signallers, but that's all. | | | |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 20:11 - Apr 16 with 353 views | onehunglow |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 19:22 - Apr 16 by LittleEnglandJack |
Yeah, look at Australia. Some of the most expensive cigarettes in the world (nearly 50 Australian dollars for a 25 pack of Marlboro!) due to substantial duty rises every year... It also has one of the largest Black markets for Tobacco in the world, and one that is rapidly growing, increasing from 14% of the market share to over 20% in just one year between '18 and '19.
If people want to smoke, they'll smoke. I could maybe see criminalisation working in 30 or so years when attitudes to tobacco and smoking have changed even further and alternatives like vaping have grown in popularity, but we're still some way away from that yet. |
So we simply give up because of a black market.Just about sums us up.Losers. We give up when things get tough.
Tobacco kills and kills and kills YET ,we throw up excues,as that is what they are.
This is why we lag behind NZ,perfectly illustrated over covid.
An immediate brutal lockdown rigidly enforced but with a population that thought of the country instead of the individual. Us,well we didnt fancy a lockdown and had public demoes against it as the virus was simply another strain of virus.
Boris eases off at Christmas and we go apeshyte and another surge,more death.
We still carry on.
All we think of is ourselves and if things go wrong blame the government.
I so regret not getting the hell out of this fetid island of farkwits ,full of crap and excuses with a level of self pity that stinks.We glory in being class warriors even of being "ordinary","working class" "average" people ,all terms used to keep us in our place
We clearly haven't twigged yet
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 20:19 - Apr 16 with 351 views | max936 |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 16:23 - Apr 16 by Dr_Winston |
All that will happen is that a massive, criminal enriching black market will pop up for tobacco sales.
It's truly staggering that the lessons of prohibition still haven't been learned nearly a century later. |
True that. |  |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 20:23 - Apr 16 with 346 views | controversial_jack |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 20:11 - Apr 16 by onehunglow |
So we simply give up because of a black market.Just about sums us up.Losers. We give up when things get tough.
Tobacco kills and kills and kills YET ,we throw up excues,as that is what they are.
This is why we lag behind NZ,perfectly illustrated over covid.
An immediate brutal lockdown rigidly enforced but with a population that thought of the country instead of the individual. Us,well we didnt fancy a lockdown and had public demoes against it as the virus was simply another strain of virus.
Boris eases off at Christmas and we go apeshyte and another surge,more death.
We still carry on.
All we think of is ourselves and if things go wrong blame the government.
I so regret not getting the hell out of this fetid island of farkwits ,full of crap and excuses with a level of self pity that stinks.We glory in being class warriors even of being "ordinary","working class" "average" people ,all terms used to keep us in our place
We clearly haven't twigged yet
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You seem to miss the point time after time on this kind of topic. Making something that has a huge demand illegal, isn't going to prevent it's use. It's better to control and regulate the price and quality of something rather than let it go underground. | | | |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 21:05 - Apr 16 with 323 views | Dr_Winston |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 18:24 - Apr 16 by onehunglow |
Wrong.
If it means people have to get it illegally then fine.
As it is,it kills billions every year.
Depends if you want to help it end . Same with ludicrously cheap alcohol.
Sadly,both are huge business in GB and both seen as essential pleasures for too many.
New Zealand under Jackinda simply has courage we do not have. We are gutless and make excuses They are smart whilst we are dumb. The most obese nation in Eurooe ,with hear disease still a huge issue ,but hey ,,making it harder to obtain isnt the way . Well what is..
We don’t even want Covid to be truly battered as we still allow cretins in indoor spaces without a mask. When Plod catches then,then we are a fascist state . |
Tobacco killing billions every year would be an impressive feat given the total Global death rate from all causes per annum averages around 50-60m. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 22:09 - Apr 16 with 282 views | builthjack |
Ban it here. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 22:25 - Apr 16 with 275 views | max936 |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 22:09 - Apr 16 by builthjack |
Ban it here. |
Wish they'd ban those vapour disgusting thing's, nothing worse than walking behind someone using the stuff and you're covered in a crowd of the disgusting vile stuff. | |
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 22:30 - Apr 16 with 272 views | lifelong |
Spent a fair bit of time in the land of the long white cloud in the late 60’s, early 70’s, a country the size of the UK with a population a little more than that of Wales, so much space..I could have lived there.
Good to hear that they are banning the killer that is tobacco. |  | | |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 07:22 - Apr 17 with 227 views | builthjack |
| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 22:25 - Apr 16 by max936 |
Wish they'd ban those vapour disgusting thing's, nothing worse than walking behind someone using the stuff and you're covered in a crowd of the disgusting vile stuff. |
Absolutely. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Kiwis to ban tobacco on 09:58 - Apr 17 with 198 views | onehunglow |
People smuggle tobacco whatever the price.They do it here. Such is the selfishness of smokers that they are more easily tempted by black markets to fuel their weakness.
Alcohol and tobacco kill as they always have. We gave our troops fags as a "treat". Those that survived the Great War didnt last long after .Great that wasn't it.
We need to drive tobacco away for good and vastly increase alcohol.Most won't like it but our culture our drinking isnt good. Another example is the litter left around by drinkers in the sun.
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