| And this from a socialist govt 23:13 - May 18 with 1078 views | KeithHaynes |
Can’t imagine what would happen if the ever increasing support for VOX were in power.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world
So many low flying helicopters flying over south Andalucia tonight.
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| And this from a socialist govt on 08:32 - May 19 with 968 views | onehunglow |
And yet,our troops and Police get slaughtered for the merest hands on action .
NO country is refugee/immigrant friendly. Let's lay that lie once and for all.
It is fashionable to be seen to be "humanitarian" so long as it doesn't affect the individual.
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| And this from a socialist govt on 09:15 - May 19 with 950 views | felixstowe_jack |
Make you wonder why Spain wants colonies in Africa as once migrants are in Ceuta they are in the EU and have the right of free movement throughout the EU. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 09:38 - May 19 with 925 views | Catullus |
| And this from a socialist govt on 09:15 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Make you wonder why Spain wants colonies in Africa as once migrants are in Ceuta they are in the EU and have the right of free movement throughout the EU. |
Maybe they should show the same attitude to Ceuta that they do to Gibraltar, just give it back. They accused the UK of colonialism but look what they're doing!
That story, in one picture a Police officer is rescuing a baby, in another a soldier looks about to whip an immigrant who's back is turned. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 09:42 - May 19 with 915 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And this from a socialist govt on 09:38 - May 19 by Catullus |
Maybe they should show the same attitude to Ceuta that they do to Gibraltar, just give it back. They accused the UK of colonialism but look what they're doing!
That story, in one picture a Police officer is rescuing a baby, in another a soldier looks about to whip an immigrant who's back is turned. |
Gibraltar is an independent overseas territory who wish to remain independent. They voted by 99% not to be part of Spain. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 09:46 - May 19 with 910 views | Catullus |
| And this from a socialist govt on 09:42 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Gibraltar is an independent overseas territory who wish to remain independent. They voted by 99% not to be part of Spain. |
I know but Spain keep going on about Gib and that we should give it back, they called us colonialist yet look at them!
Argentina are the same, they call us colonialist when all they want is land outside their territorial waters to be theirs. It's hypocrisy. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 10:01 - May 19 with 895 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And this from a socialist govt on 09:46 - May 19 by Catullus |
I know but Spain keep going on about Gib and that we should give it back, they called us colonialist yet look at them!
Argentina are the same, they call us colonialist when all they want is land outside their territorial waters to be theirs. It's hypocrisy. |
The history of Gibraltar is fascinating it was under Moorish rule for 750 years, under British rule 300 years and Spanish rule for 250 years. Makes you wonder who has the best claim to it.
Maybe being independent is best. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 10:13 - May 19 with 859 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| And this from a socialist govt on 08:32 - May 19 by onehunglow |
And yet,our troops and Police get slaughtered for the merest hands on action .
NO country is refugee/immigrant friendly. Let's lay that lie once and for all.
It is fashionable to be seen to be "humanitarian" so long as it doesn't affect the individual.
NIMBYs |
I think you need to modify your statement a bit.
NO country is refugee or illegal immigrant friendly indefinitely.
Even Germany that uses immigrants as cheap labour to do the jobs their own citizens don't want to do (much like we used eu temporary migrants for farming) had to stop welcoming elligal migrants when they had too many to cope with. | | | |
| And this from a socialist govt on 10:18 - May 19 with 885 views | Catullus |
| And this from a socialist govt on 10:01 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
The history of Gibraltar is fascinating it was under Moorish rule for 750 years, under British rule 300 years and Spanish rule for 250 years. Makes you wonder who has the best claim to it.
Maybe being independent is best. |
It was ceded to us by treaty after our military (with some help from the Dutch kicked Spain out. I reckon Spain do have the best claim purely based on Geography. They should give Ceuta back to Morocco, there's lots of overseas territories still held by former colonial powers, they should all be returned or at the very least the residents should be allowed a referendum. Unless of course they are not claimed or wanted by another country or lie well outside their legal boundaries and they never owned or occupied them. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 10:36 - May 19 with 875 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And this from a socialist govt on 10:18 - May 19 by Catullus |
It was ceded to us by treaty after our military (with some help from the Dutch kicked Spain out. I reckon Spain do have the best claim purely based on Geography. They should give Ceuta back to Morocco, there's lots of overseas territories still held by former colonial powers, they should all be returned or at the very least the residents should be allowed a referendum. Unless of course they are not claimed or wanted by another country or lie well outside their legal boundaries and they never owned or occupied them. |
Correct it was ceded to the UK in perpetuity. Spain did get some redress we captured menorca from the French and gave it Spain in return for keeping Gibraltar. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 11:33 - May 19 with 856 views | onehunglow |
| And this from a socialist govt on 10:13 - May 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
I think you need to modify your statement a bit.
NO country is refugee or illegal immigrant friendly indefinitely.
Even Germany that uses immigrants as cheap labour to do the jobs their own citizens don't want to do (much like we used eu temporary migrants for farming) had to stop welcoming elligal migrants when they had too many to cope with. |
I'll repeat .
NO country truly "welcomes" refugees ,immigrants or really foreigners . This is denied of course but people need to look in the glass and be honest | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 12:22 - May 19 with 801 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| And this from a socialist govt on 11:33 - May 19 by onehunglow |
I'll repeat .
NO country truly "welcomes" refugees ,immigrants or really foreigners . This is denied of course but people need to look in the glass and be honest |
You are of course wrong, as history has proved.
The USA has welcomed cheap Mexican labour for decades, Germany has been dependent on cheap migrant labour (mostly Turks) for their industry for decades.
The people may not like it but they of course don't count. | | | |
| And this from a socialist govt on 12:35 - May 19 with 821 views | KeithHaynes |
| And this from a socialist govt on 09:42 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Gibraltar is an independent overseas territory who wish to remain independent. They voted by 99% not to be part of Spain. |
They also voted in massive numbers to remain. Which tickled Spain a bit when the U.K. voted leave. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 13:07 - May 19 with 813 views | felixstowe_jack |
| And this from a socialist govt on 12:35 - May 19 by KeithHaynes |
They also voted in massive numbers to remain. Which tickled Spain a bit when the U.K. voted leave. |
Good job they stayed as an overseas territory. Their vaccination rate is the highest in the World with 2.2 vaccines being administered per registered citizens. Their vaccines were supplied by the UK. They would still be waiting if they were part of the UK.
For those of you wondering why their vaccination rate is over 2 per person it is because they have vaccinated British citizens deployed in Gibraltar as well as Spanish citizens who cross thr border daily to work in Gibraltar. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 15:26 - May 19 with 779 views | onehunglow |
| And this from a socialist govt on 12:22 - May 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are of course wrong, as history has proved.
The USA has welcomed cheap Mexican labour for decades, Germany has been dependent on cheap migrant labour (mostly Turks) for their industry for decades.
The people may not like it but they of course don't count. |
You are clearly acting dumb so you can be the first on my ignore list.
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| And this from a socialist govt on 15:57 - May 19 with 770 views | KeithHaynes |
| And this from a socialist govt on 13:07 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Good job they stayed as an overseas territory. Their vaccination rate is the highest in the World with 2.2 vaccines being administered per registered citizens. Their vaccines were supplied by the UK. They would still be waiting if they were part of the UK.
For those of you wondering why their vaccination rate is over 2 per person it is because they have vaccinated British citizens deployed in Gibraltar as well as Spanish citizens who cross thr border daily to work in Gibraltar. |
Seventeen thousand a day cross the border from la Linea to Gibraltar, doubling the adult population. Some walk for miles every day to do so. There was a political party two years ago who said they were going to block the border to prevent Spanish / UK relations remaining friendly within the area.
The leader disappearEd overnight, seriously he has never been seen since. In recent times the Russians have tried to infiltrate the area to progress their criminal enterprises, same result. The coast around La Linea relies upon Gibraltar and the far better wages there to survive. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 15:58 - May 19 with 770 views | KeithHaynes |
| And this from a socialist govt on 13:07 - May 19 by felixstowe_jack |
Good job they stayed as an overseas territory. Their vaccination rate is the highest in the World with 2.2 vaccines being administered per registered citizens. Their vaccines were supplied by the UK. They would still be waiting if they were part of the UK.
For those of you wondering why their vaccination rate is over 2 per person it is because they have vaccinated British citizens deployed in Gibraltar as well as Spanish citizens who cross thr border daily to work in Gibraltar. |
Seventeen thousand a day cross the border from la Linea to Gibraltar, doubling the adult population. Some walk for miles every day to do so. There was a political party two years ago who said they were going to block the border to prevent Spanish / UK relations remaining friendly within the area.
The leader disappearEd overnight, seriously he has never been seen since. In recent times the Russians have tried to infiltrate the area to progress their criminal enterprises, same result. The coast around La Linea relies upon Gibraltar and the far better wages there to survive.
For anyone unsure how violent this place can get have a look at this four part documentary.
https://www.netflix.com/es-en/ | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 18:41 - May 19 with 738 views | Rumjack |
| And this from a socialist govt on 15:58 - May 19 by KeithHaynes |
Seventeen thousand a day cross the border from la Linea to Gibraltar, doubling the adult population. Some walk for miles every day to do so. There was a political party two years ago who said they were going to block the border to prevent Spanish / UK relations remaining friendly within the area.
The leader disappearEd overnight, seriously he has never been seen since. In recent times the Russians have tried to infiltrate the area to progress their criminal enterprises, same result. The coast around La Linea relies upon Gibraltar and the far better wages there to survive.
For anyone unsure how violent this place can get have a look at this four part documentary.
https://www.netflix.com/es-en/ |
Long time lurker on these boards but I'll chip in. I do that crossing every day from La Linea to Gib. As you probably know Keith, La Linea is on its knees. The government has pretty much neglected it, just last week there were riots when a couple of drug smugglers drowned off the coast when their rib broke down. La Linea absolutely depends on the wages from Gib, when the VOX party started kicking off (again) about Gib the local VOX candidate told them to do one and resigned. Relations between Gib and its nearby populace is pretty good, especially as any frontier worker has now been fully vaccinated.
It also has to be said the Gib kept paying the wages of Spanish frontier workers during the lockdown, you won't find many Spanish people in Gib having bad word about the place. [Post edited 19 May 2021 18:59]
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| And this from a socialist govt on 20:12 - May 19 with 694 views | KeithHaynes |
| And this from a socialist govt on 18:41 - May 19 by Rumjack |
Long time lurker on these boards but I'll chip in. I do that crossing every day from La Linea to Gib. As you probably know Keith, La Linea is on its knees. The government has pretty much neglected it, just last week there were riots when a couple of drug smugglers drowned off the coast when their rib broke down. La Linea absolutely depends on the wages from Gib, when the VOX party started kicking off (again) about Gib the local VOX candidate told them to do one and resigned. Relations between Gib and its nearby populace is pretty good, especially as any frontier worker has now been fully vaccinated.
It also has to be said the Gib kept paying the wages of Spanish frontier workers during the lockdown, you won't find many Spanish people in Gib having bad word about the place. [Post edited 19 May 2021 18:59]
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An excellent returning post mate 👠| |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 10:27 - May 20 with 576 views | Catullus |
| And this from a socialist govt on 12:22 - May 19 by A_Fans_Dad |
You are of course wrong, as history has proved.
The USA has welcomed cheap Mexican labour for decades, Germany has been dependent on cheap migrant labour (mostly Turks) for their industry for decades.
The people may not like it but they of course don't count. |
Actually you are clearly wrong or why did republicans love Trump for building that wall? There are always limits that people will accept, for everything
Germany has also had issues with immigration,
https://www.euractiv.com/secti
The people not liking it was the point, for a country to entirely accept immigrants etc, then absolutely everybody has to accept it and not just politicians and businesses that want cheap labour. | |
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| And this from a socialist govt on 20:41 - May 20 with 538 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| And this from a socialist govt on 10:27 - May 20 by Catullus |
Actually you are clearly wrong or why did republicans love Trump for building that wall? There are always limits that people will accept, for everything
Germany has also had issues with immigration,
https://www.euractiv.com/secti
The people not liking it was the point, for a country to entirely accept immigrants etc, then absolutely everybody has to accept it and not just politicians and businesses that want cheap labour. |
Which is why if you look at my first comment I said "NO country is refugee or illegal immigrant friendly indefinitely"
Democrats via Biden's Executive order have reversed what Trump did, they don't care what the people think or want.
They must want their cheap labour, drugs and "unaccompanied" children, otherwise they would have left what Trump did alone. | | | |
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