| National insurance hike 07:34 - Sep 8 with 1156 views | KeithHaynes |
Interesting fact.
if National Insurance is rising from 12% to 13.25% it is NOT rising by 1.25%. It is rising by 1.25 percentage points. if you want to describe its rise in percentage terms, it is rising by just over 10%. It is a 10% tax hike. |  |
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| National insurance hike on 07:42 - Sep 8 with 1142 views | felixstowe_jack |
Nobody ever said it was rising by 1.25% . It is rising by 1.25p.
This applies to both working people, people who own shares as tax on their dividends will increase by 1.25p.
People on £20,000 will pay £130 pa while those on £50,000 will pay nearly 5 times as much and people on £100,000 will pay £1300 ten times as much.
It will also apply to businesses which include tax evaders like amazon who can't evade it .
If we want a better health service and care service someone has to pay for it. |  |
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| National insurance hike on 09:21 - Sep 8 with 1093 views | Catullus |
Nope, it is a 10 percent rise in the rate of tax but not a 10% tax rise. There's a subtle difference 
I make it we'll be about £12 per month worse off. We're luckier than some I guess, my occy pension is at about 12,600 per year, I pay very minimal tax. My wife will pay all of that 12 quid. | |
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| National insurance hike on 09:24 - Sep 8 with 1089 views | johnlangy |
| National insurance hike on 07:42 - Sep 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Nobody ever said it was rising by 1.25% . It is rising by 1.25p.
This applies to both working people, people who own shares as tax on their dividends will increase by 1.25p.
People on £20,000 will pay £130 pa while those on £50,000 will pay nearly 5 times as much and people on £100,000 will pay £1300 ten times as much.
It will also apply to businesses which include tax evaders like amazon who can't evade it .
If we want a better health service and care service someone has to pay for it. |
Wrong.
Those on £50,000 will pay about £600 as you say. From 50,000 to 100,000 NI is just 2% so they will pay about 7000. | | | |
| National insurance hike on 09:51 - Sep 8 with 1069 views | KeithHaynes |
| National insurance hike on 07:42 - Sep 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Nobody ever said it was rising by 1.25% . It is rising by 1.25p.
This applies to both working people, people who own shares as tax on their dividends will increase by 1.25p.
People on £20,000 will pay £130 pa while those on £50,000 will pay nearly 5 times as much and people on £100,000 will pay £1300 ten times as much.
It will also apply to businesses which include tax evaders like amazon who can't evade it .
If we want a better health service and care service someone has to pay for it. |
I think you will find they did.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
From April 2023 National Insurance will return to its current rate, but a new health and social care tax will be introduced at a rate of 1.25% - making up for the change to National Insurance.
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| National insurance hike on 15:01 - Sep 8 with 968 views | monmouth |
Except for vat, this is the most regressive tax of all. Hits the lower earners harder because of the UEL. I don’t think even any general nutters and Johnson groupies from Suffolk can argue that, although they probably will. |  |
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| National insurance hike on 15:24 - Sep 8 with 947 views | Boundy |
| National insurance hike on 15:01 - Sep 8 by monmouth |
Except for vat, this is the most regressive tax of all. Hits the lower earners harder because of the UEL. I don’t think even any general nutters and Johnson groupies from Suffolk can argue that, although they probably will. |
Yes indeed it is , a tax enforced upon us by joining the EEC ( anyone remember what that was all about) | |
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| National insurance hike on 15:37 - Sep 8 with 928 views | Kilkennyjack |
Interesting fact. (From bbc Newsnight).
If pensioners had not voted in 2019, our PM would be Mr Jezza Corbyn.
A dreadful choice but better than that idiot Johnson. |  |
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| National insurance hike on 17:43 - Sep 8 with 880 views | controversial_jack |
My thoughts are, it won't go to social care it will just end up going to central taxation | | | |
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| National insurance hike on 20:11 - Sep 8 with 841 views | felixstowe_jack |
| National insurance hike on 15:37 - Sep 8 by Kilkennyjack |
Interesting fact. (From bbc Newsnight).
If pensioners had not voted in 2019, our PM would be Mr Jezza Corbyn.
A dreadful choice but better than that idiot Johnson. |
I think you find a broad spectrum of people voted for Conservatives . Not enough pensioners in the UK to give the government that large a majority. Plus pensioners in Scotland voted SNP and pensioners in Wales mainly vote labour. | |
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| National insurance hike on 20:54 - Sep 8 with 828 views | Fireboy2 |
| National insurance hike on 17:43 - Sep 8 by controversial_jack |
My thoughts are, it won't go to social care it will just end up going to central taxation |
This This This. |  | | |
| National insurance hike on 20:58 - Sep 8 with 811 views | ItchySphincter |
| National insurance hike on 07:42 - Sep 8 by felixstowe_jack |
Nobody ever said it was rising by 1.25% . It is rising by 1.25p.
This applies to both working people, people who own shares as tax on their dividends will increase by 1.25p.
People on £20,000 will pay £130 pa while those on £50,000 will pay nearly 5 times as much and people on £100,000 will pay £1300 ten times as much.
It will also apply to businesses which include tax evaders like amazon who can't evade it .
If we want a better health service and care service someone has to pay for it. |
You should give a bit more thought before getting involved in conversations that involve doing sums. |  |
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| National insurance hike on 21:12 - Sep 8 with 817 views | Gwyn737 |
It’s hard to have sympathy with care him owners I know, but the huge prices payed by those deemed able to afford it are at least in part subsidising council payed for places that are payed at a considerably lower rate in the exact same care home.
It’s the same thing as the ‘free’ preschool childcare hours. Nurseries could never afford to run on the government paid rate so have to hike the charges up for those who have to pay. | | | |
| National insurance hike on 11:19 - Sep 9 with 698 views | pikeypaul |
So £120 a year more for someone on £20k a year.
Next to nothing for all the public sector workers on full pay for doing virtually nothing the last 18 months,sat in their gardens all day getting pi55ed,just ask the 2 teachers a couple of doors down from me,they will tell you they have never had it so good.
Taxes need to go up far more than this to pay for the pandemic,thats for sure.And labour know this also,so dont think paying for the pandemic is a Conservative exclusive reality. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:32]
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| National insurance hike on 11:41 - Sep 9 with 660 views | Catullus |
Grateful? Grateful and I suppose we should be happy too, grateful that he sent billions to companies not fit for the job they were paid to do. Should we be grateful he didn't shut down foreign travel and allowed many more covid cases into the UK. Should we be grateful for the performance of his useless government, grateful for Cummings, Raab and Patel?
How many billions had Bojo and the Cabinet given to their friends? Should we be grateful we are piclking up the bill for that?
How many thousands died who maybe didn't need to? Should they and their families be grateful? | |
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| National insurance hike on 12:36 - Sep 9 with 636 views | Gwyn737 |
Still calling posters scum, then?
I'm not bothered about general wummery but I'm not at all keen on that term. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 12:37]
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| National insurance hike on 13:15 - Sep 9 with 612 views | ItchySphincter |
Hook, line and sinker. | |
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| National insurance hike on 13:51 - Sep 9 with 597 views | britferry |
| National insurance hike on 13:15 - Sep 9 by ItchySphincter |
Hook, line and sinker. |
and I voted to leave | |
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| National insurance hike on 14:36 - Sep 9 with 580 views | pikeypaul |
| National insurance hike on 11:41 - Sep 9 by Catullus |
Grateful? Grateful and I suppose we should be happy too, grateful that he sent billions to companies not fit for the job they were paid to do. Should we be grateful he didn't shut down foreign travel and allowed many more covid cases into the UK. Should we be grateful for the performance of his useless government, grateful for Cummings, Raab and Patel?
How many billions had Bojo and the Cabinet given to their friends? Should we be grateful we are piclking up the bill for that?
How many thousands died who maybe didn't need to? Should they and their families be grateful? |
Who knows how many lives they did save with their actions and yes the people whos lives were saved are very grateful,you seem to think BOJO invented the pandemic,but the Billions hes trown at it unarguably has saved lives.
What would Labour have done differently,no one knows since Starmer has offered nothing since the pandemic started,strange how he constantly criticises BOJOs actions when Drakefford does exactly the same, only a few days later,and Starmer says feck all about the WAGs actions mirroring BOJOs.
The one thing we do know would have happened is that labour would have ignored democracy and kept us in the EU and then we would have had the same shambolic ,meltdown of a vaccine rollout they had which would have cost 10000s of lives,so yes be a little more grateful please.
The world beating vaccine roll out by Bojo will go down in history as one of the greatest feats worldwide in the last 100 years,but hey i think you hate that dont you? [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 14:44]
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| National insurance hike on 15:53 - Sep 9 with 528 views | Catullus |
| National insurance hike on 14:36 - Sep 9 by pikeypaul |
Who knows how many lives they did save with their actions and yes the people whos lives were saved are very grateful,you seem to think BOJO invented the pandemic,but the Billions hes trown at it unarguably has saved lives.
What would Labour have done differently,no one knows since Starmer has offered nothing since the pandemic started,strange how he constantly criticises BOJOs actions when Drakefford does exactly the same, only a few days later,and Starmer says feck all about the WAGs actions mirroring BOJOs.
The one thing we do know would have happened is that labour would have ignored democracy and kept us in the EU and then we would have had the same shambolic ,meltdown of a vaccine rollout they had which would have cost 10000s of lives,so yes be a little more grateful please.
The world beating vaccine roll out by Bojo will go down in history as one of the greatest feats worldwide in the last 100 years,but hey i think you hate that dont you? [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 14:44]
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Don't make things up, where did I even slightly intimate Bojo invented this pandemic?
How many did they save, I can't guess but that was their job. It wasn't their job to give billions to their friends or to ignore medical advice which cost loads of lives. It wasn't their job to screw up the PPE.
Don't turn this to the EU, you know I am as EU sceptic as you are but we know Blair ignored democracy, what Corbyn or Starmer would have done I don't know.
The vaccine roll out was good but one of the greatest feats? That's hysterical, when Drakeford got going he managed to do even better and Israel were much better.
By the way, Bojo didn't throw billions at it, we did, it's not Bojo's money, it's our money and the billions lost to hs cronies will take us decades to pay back. | |
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