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New Eco tech 14:26 - Jul 27 with 2560 viewsCatullus

On the news earlier, it took me by surprise when she said that some of our everyday stuff like paper and plastics creates more CO2 than all the cars, trains and planes on the planet. Consumption of paper is still rising despite a drive for many industries to go paperless and then there's this,

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62265992

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New Eco tech on 14:37 - Jul 27 with 2047 views73__73

97% of co2 comes from natural source. Let that sink in. Climate change has happened many, many times and will continue to do so.

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New Eco tech on 14:54 - Jul 27 with 2026 viewsCatullus

New Eco tech on 14:37 - Jul 27 by 73__73

97% of co2 comes from natural source. Let that sink in. Climate change has happened many, many times and will continue to do so.


Yeah close enough to what the experts say, which is 3.2%.

I'm not really a global warming student, I think climate change is mostly natural and the climate change lobby are misled.
Mind you, I also believe a lot of the problems we have are caused by destruction of habitat, by our intrusion into natural worlds that is causing extinctions. I think that is causing some climate change because we are knocking the planet out of balance.

Balance is important.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New Eco tech on 21:54 - Jul 27 with 1946 viewsFlashberryjack

New Eco tech on 14:54 - Jul 27 by Catullus

Yeah close enough to what the experts say, which is 3.2%.

I'm not really a global warming student, I think climate change is mostly natural and the climate change lobby are misled.
Mind you, I also believe a lot of the problems we have are caused by destruction of habitat, by our intrusion into natural worlds that is causing extinctions. I think that is causing some climate change because we are knocking the planet out of balance.

Balance is important.


Acid rain was going to kill all the forests, then it was the hole in the ozone layer, now it's global warming, wonder what's next.

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New Eco tech on 22:30 - Jul 27 with 1930 viewsKeithHaynes

New Eco tech on 21:54 - Jul 27 by Flashberryjack

Acid rain was going to kill all the forests, then it was the hole in the ozone layer, now it's global warming, wonder what's next.


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New Eco tech on 22:34 - Jul 27 with 1927 viewsCatullus

New Eco tech on 21:54 - Jul 27 by Flashberryjack

Acid rain was going to kill all the forests, then it was the hole in the ozone layer, now it's global warming, wonder what's next.


Well we've done covid and monkey pox is here too, who knows. The only constant in all this is mankind destroying habitat. Acid rain hasn't killed the forsts but humans are diggingthem up very quickly. The hole in the ozone layer shrunk but we are slowly killing the oceans by polluting the water and we are destroying fish stocks and driving sharks and whales to extinction.
Not to forget that all these green taxes are putting people into poverty but where is the money going?

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New Eco tech on 23:22 - Jul 27 with 1906 viewsSTID2017

New Eco tech on 22:34 - Jul 27 by Catullus

Well we've done covid and monkey pox is here too, who knows. The only constant in all this is mankind destroying habitat. Acid rain hasn't killed the forsts but humans are diggingthem up very quickly. The hole in the ozone layer shrunk but we are slowly killing the oceans by polluting the water and we are destroying fish stocks and driving sharks and whales to extinction.
Not to forget that all these green taxes are putting people into poverty but where is the money going?


My neighbour ( a real conspiracy theorist) currently reckons that the drive to persuade us all to get electric vehicles is a ploy to go back to the times when only the rich had cars.
Apparently, once we all have electric cars etc, the supply of electricity is going to be so throttled that we will have power cuts and lack of electricity ( imagine the old " Coronation Street" half time kettle surge multiplied by millions .
So the ordinary person will be forced to use public transport ( and as we all know our public transport infrastructure is brilliant).
Some logic about demand outstripping supply, but can't see it myself
I think he spends too much time on the dark web

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New Eco tech on 13:18 - Jul 28 with 1862 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 14:54 - Jul 27 by Catullus

Yeah close enough to what the experts say, which is 3.2%.

I'm not really a global warming student, I think climate change is mostly natural and the climate change lobby are misled.
Mind you, I also believe a lot of the problems we have are caused by destruction of habitat, by our intrusion into natural worlds that is causing extinctions. I think that is causing some climate change because we are knocking the planet out of balance.

Balance is important.


Balance is everything.

That 3% is 3% too much, when other green house gases, deforestation and other damaging behaviours are factored we are completely destroying the place.

The bottom line is there's already too many of us on the planet if population carries on growing and we don't reduce our impact we're going to wipe ourselves out.
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New Eco tech on 13:40 - Jul 28 with 1847 viewsDr_Winston

New Eco tech on 21:54 - Jul 27 by Flashberryjack

Acid rain was going to kill all the forests, then it was the hole in the ozone layer, now it's global warming, wonder what's next.


Nations took decisive action over the first two, which went a long way towards reducing the problem.

https://www.wri.org/insights/most-successful-air-pollution-treaty-youve-never-he

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol

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New Eco tech on 15:13 - Jul 28 with 1832 viewsbuilthjack

New Eco tech on 23:22 - Jul 27 by STID2017

My neighbour ( a real conspiracy theorist) currently reckons that the drive to persuade us all to get electric vehicles is a ploy to go back to the times when only the rich had cars.
Apparently, once we all have electric cars etc, the supply of electricity is going to be so throttled that we will have power cuts and lack of electricity ( imagine the old " Coronation Street" half time kettle surge multiplied by millions .
So the ordinary person will be forced to use public transport ( and as we all know our public transport infrastructure is brilliant).
Some logic about demand outstripping supply, but can't see it myself
I think he spends too much time on the dark web


Forget electric cars. They will be a thoing of the past .
Hydrogen is the way forward.

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New Eco tech on 16:49 - Jul 28 with 1810 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 14:37 - Jul 27 by 73__73

97% of co2 comes from natural source. Let that sink in. Climate change has happened many, many times and will continue to do so.


Climate change has happened many times over billions of years. Often accompanied by mass extinctions too.
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New Eco tech on 17:21 - Jul 28 with 1800 viewsCatullus

New Eco tech on 13:18 - Jul 28 by Scotia

Balance is everything.

That 3% is 3% too much, when other green house gases, deforestation and other damaging behaviours are factored we are completely destroying the place.

The bottom line is there's already too many of us on the planet if population carries on growing and we don't reduce our impact we're going to wipe ourselves out.


The stats I have seen say that population growth has slowed and is, in fact, becoming population shrinkage in many countries. They say it's something to do with people moving to live in cities, apparently!

Still though, we are doing far too much damage to our planet. I think the temperature will carry on rising regardless but how far I don't know, I also think nature will adapt. The big problem for me is that humanity has been far too busy trying to force nature to adapt to us, we need to spend more time fitting in with nature because humanity is far more destructive and dangerous than any other creature on the planet.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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New Eco tech on 20:51 - Jul 28 with 1771 viewsCountyJim

New Eco tech on 14:37 - Jul 27 by 73__73

97% of co2 comes from natural source. Let that sink in. Climate change has happened many, many times and will continue to do so.


Said it many times look at how much shite comes out of a volcano and how long have they been around

Ban them I say
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New Eco tech on 21:06 - Jul 28 with 1761 views73__73

New Eco tech on 16:49 - Jul 28 by Scotia

Climate change has happened many times over billions of years. Often accompanied by mass extinctions too.


‘Often accompanied by mass extinctions’ oh yeah, what were they then ?

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New Eco tech on 21:17 - Jul 28 with 1754 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 21:06 - Jul 28 by 73__73

‘Often accompanied by mass extinctions’ oh yeah, what were they then ?


They were mass extinctions.
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New Eco tech on 21:23 - Jul 28 with 1750 views73__73

New Eco tech on 21:17 - Jul 28 by Scotia

They were mass extinctions.


Of what ?

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New Eco tech on 21:24 - Jul 28 with 1750 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 17:21 - Jul 28 by Catullus

The stats I have seen say that population growth has slowed and is, in fact, becoming population shrinkage in many countries. They say it's something to do with people moving to live in cities, apparently!

Still though, we are doing far too much damage to our planet. I think the temperature will carry on rising regardless but how far I don't know, I also think nature will adapt. The big problem for me is that humanity has been far too busy trying to force nature to adapt to us, we need to spend more time fitting in with nature because humanity is far more destructive and dangerous than any other creature on the planet.


Population growth needs to stop across the globe, and we need to live sustainably which is exactly what you say in the rest of your post.

I fully believe that the UK is punching way above its weight in trying to tackle climate change, its the equivalent of a fart in a hurricane when compared to what the likes of China, the US, India and Russia are doing though.
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New Eco tech on 21:29 - Jul 28 with 1749 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 21:23 - Jul 28 by 73__73

Of what ?


Most life on the planet, usually just leaving enough biodiversity to start evolution again.

The last major one was 65 million years ago. We're potentially looking at a scenario like that again.

You have to understand geological time to grasp the situation really, we're probably talking on a scale of thousands of years for this "event" to happen.

But the climate is changing at a greater rate than ever before, you're talking 10's of thousands of years versus decades. Biodiversity won't be able to adapt in time
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New Eco tech on 22:09 - Jul 28 with 1739 views73__73

New Eco tech on 21:29 - Jul 28 by Scotia

Most life on the planet, usually just leaving enough biodiversity to start evolution again.

The last major one was 65 million years ago. We're potentially looking at a scenario like that again.

You have to understand geological time to grasp the situation really, we're probably talking on a scale of thousands of years for this "event" to happen.

But the climate is changing at a greater rate than ever before, you're talking 10's of thousands of years versus decades. Biodiversity won't be able to adapt in time


What a load of nonsense. 😂

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New Eco tech on 23:32 - Jul 28 with 1721 viewsCatullus

New Eco tech on 21:06 - Jul 28 by 73__73

‘Often accompanied by mass extinctions’ oh yeah, what were they then ?


The Ordovician Mass Extinction, Devonian Mass Extinction, Permian Mass Extinction, Triassic-Jurassic Mass Extinction, and Cretaceous-Tertiary (or the K-T) Mass Extinction.

Happy to help, here you go,

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-5-major-mass-extinctions-4018102

hang on though, that may be MSM BS!

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New Eco tech on 06:06 - Jul 29 with 1687 views73__73

New Eco tech on 23:32 - Jul 28 by Catullus

The Ordovician Mass Extinction, Devonian Mass Extinction, Permian Mass Extinction, Triassic-Jurassic Mass Extinction, and Cretaceous-Tertiary (or the K-T) Mass Extinction.

Happy to help, here you go,

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-5-major-mass-extinctions-4018102

hang on though, that may be MSM BS!


You really need to do better. 😂
Each of those examples in that article says the ‘suspected cause’ 😂 in other words they don’t know.
Also, the article even changes the definition of the word extinct to suit the agenda they are pushing.
And last but not least, the so called ‘6th extinction’ of humans, is all you need to know, that the article is just a climate change bullshite scare story.

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New Eco tech on 07:42 - Jul 29 with 1664 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 22:09 - Jul 28 by 73__73

What a load of nonsense. 😂


That's me convinced. It's obviously all a load of nonsense.

9 years of study and a 20 year career have all been a bit pointless.
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New Eco tech on 07:47 - Jul 29 with 1660 viewsPawelAbbott

New Eco tech on 06:06 - Jul 29 by 73__73

You really need to do better. 😂
Each of those examples in that article says the ‘suspected cause’ 😂 in other words they don’t know.
Also, the article even changes the definition of the word extinct to suit the agenda they are pushing.
And last but not least, the so called ‘6th extinction’ of humans, is all you need to know, that the article is just a climate change bullshite scare story.


I never understand Climate Change deniers, its a zero win game.
If you're correct and a hoax all set up to tax people more, then they were going to tax you anyway, this was just a new name for it. If that tax was then spent on reducing the crap pumped into the air then surely it was a good thing anyway.
If you're wrong and it's real then you've helped bring forth the destruction of the planet.
Either way, where is the upside??
What is the point in claiming everything is a huge conspiracy?
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New Eco tech on 07:54 - Jul 29 with 1657 viewsScotia

New Eco tech on 06:06 - Jul 29 by 73__73

You really need to do better. 😂
Each of those examples in that article says the ‘suspected cause’ 😂 in other words they don’t know.
Also, the article even changes the definition of the word extinct to suit the agenda they are pushing.
And last but not least, the so called ‘6th extinction’ of humans, is all you need to know, that the article is just a climate change bullshite scare story.


Do you know anyone who was around 485 million years ago that we can ask then?
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New Eco tech on 08:06 - Jul 29 with 1654 views73__73

New Eco tech on 07:47 - Jul 29 by PawelAbbott

I never understand Climate Change deniers, its a zero win game.
If you're correct and a hoax all set up to tax people more, then they were going to tax you anyway, this was just a new name for it. If that tax was then spent on reducing the crap pumped into the air then surely it was a good thing anyway.
If you're wrong and it's real then you've helped bring forth the destruction of the planet.
Either way, where is the upside??
What is the point in claiming everything is a huge conspiracy?


Who’s denying climate change ? It’s a natural phenomenon that’s happened many times before.

And if you think it’s just about taxing people then you are completely wrong

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New Eco tech on 08:06 - Jul 29 with 1653 views73__73

New Eco tech on 07:42 - Jul 29 by Scotia

That's me convinced. It's obviously all a load of nonsense.

9 years of study and a 20 year career have all been a bit pointless.


That’s your problem, not mine 😁

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