| Children in Care - Wales on 09:45 - May 24 with 1106 views | majorraglan |
It’s a really difficult subject, taking kids in to care is usually the last step and social workers are quite rightly reluctant to break up family units, but the best interests of the kids has to come first. Im not surprised these kids go on to under achieve in school and in life because they’ll have suffered a lot of ACE’s (Adverse Childhood Experiences) and will have come from really troubled backgrounds where they’ve been abused, parents can’t function etc.
I’ve had a fair bit to do with the care system and safeguarding and some of the cases I’ve had dealings with are really bad. It’s fair to say there’s plenty of people out there who don’t deserve to have kids. A couple of people I know used to be foster carers, the lives and living conditions of some of the kids they’ve cared for have been grim. The stories they tell are horrific. We’ve got a whole group of people in society who are dysfunctional, chaotic and who can’t look after themselves yet alone kids.
I know 1 family who were very dysfunctional, there were drink, drugs sides, criminal offending domestic abuse etc. The parents were born late 50s, they proceeded to have 4 kids who also became problems for society, they were all NEETs, involved in violence, drink, drugs and were in and out of prison. The 4 kids then had around 12 kids of their own who went on to become NEETs as their parents and grand parents weren’t exactly positive role models, they weren’t brought up with standards, boundaries etc etc and we end up in a vicious circle where the numbers keep growing. 1 to 4 to 12 in 30 years.
What the Guardian article doesn’t make clear is how the stats are calculated which is very important. Are the statistics based on the number of children placed in care by the individual local authority or do they relate to the number of children living in care in the local authority area or is it a combination of both measures. The reason I highlight that is because many councils move kids out of their home area (particularly the more difficult kids), in Wales we have a very high number of care homes with lots of kids being shipped in from England. The high number of care homes is attributable to the relatively low cost of property and lower wages in Wales. Moving children “out of county” and many miles from home makes it much more difficult for the social services to manage the wellbeing of the kids and makes the problem much worse and reduces any chances of getting the child back on track. [Post edited 24 May 2023 17:39]
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| Children in Care - Wales on 17:47 - May 24 with 1048 views | SullutaCreturned |
It's just another area where the Senedd is failing badly. They are a farce and they are ruining peoples lives. | | | |
| Children in Care - Wales on 16:57 - May 28 with 960 views | controversial_jack |
| Children in Care - Wales on 09:45 - May 24 by majorraglan |
It’s a really difficult subject, taking kids in to care is usually the last step and social workers are quite rightly reluctant to break up family units, but the best interests of the kids has to come first. Im not surprised these kids go on to under achieve in school and in life because they’ll have suffered a lot of ACE’s (Adverse Childhood Experiences) and will have come from really troubled backgrounds where they’ve been abused, parents can’t function etc.
I’ve had a fair bit to do with the care system and safeguarding and some of the cases I’ve had dealings with are really bad. It’s fair to say there’s plenty of people out there who don’t deserve to have kids. A couple of people I know used to be foster carers, the lives and living conditions of some of the kids they’ve cared for have been grim. The stories they tell are horrific. We’ve got a whole group of people in society who are dysfunctional, chaotic and who can’t look after themselves yet alone kids.
I know 1 family who were very dysfunctional, there were drink, drugs sides, criminal offending domestic abuse etc. The parents were born late 50s, they proceeded to have 4 kids who also became problems for society, they were all NEETs, involved in violence, drink, drugs and were in and out of prison. The 4 kids then had around 12 kids of their own who went on to become NEETs as their parents and grand parents weren’t exactly positive role models, they weren’t brought up with standards, boundaries etc etc and we end up in a vicious circle where the numbers keep growing. 1 to 4 to 12 in 30 years.
What the Guardian article doesn’t make clear is how the stats are calculated which is very important. Are the statistics based on the number of children placed in care by the individual local authority or do they relate to the number of children living in care in the local authority area or is it a combination of both measures. The reason I highlight that is because many councils move kids out of their home area (particularly the more difficult kids), in Wales we have a very high number of care homes with lots of kids being shipped in from England. The high number of care homes is attributable to the relatively low cost of property and lower wages in Wales. Moving children “out of county” and many miles from home makes it much more difficult for the social services to manage the wellbeing of the kids and makes the problem much worse and reduces any chances of getting the child back on track. [Post edited 24 May 2023 17:39]
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We fostered a young girl at one time. She had learning difficulties and had been sexually abused. She was with us for 18 months.My wife worked wonders with her. She was clean, eating healthily, going to school regularly on time and in clean clothes, and she made marked improvements in school.She was well behaved, it's all I had to do was raise my voice and she would calm down and listen.
Social services sent her back to her mother. Within a short time, she had an abortion and got pregnant again, She went off the rails again, but thankfully now has settled down after many years.All the good work done by Mrs CJ, went down the pan. | | | |
| Children in Care - Wales on 17:35 - May 28 with 943 views | AguycalledJack |
| Children in Care - Wales on 16:57 - May 28 by controversial_jack |
We fostered a young girl at one time. She had learning difficulties and had been sexually abused. She was with us for 18 months.My wife worked wonders with her. She was clean, eating healthily, going to school regularly on time and in clean clothes, and she made marked improvements in school.She was well behaved, it's all I had to do was raise my voice and she would calm down and listen.
Social services sent her back to her mother. Within a short time, she had an abortion and got pregnant again, She went off the rails again, but thankfully now has settled down after many years.All the good work done by Mrs CJ, went down the pan. |
This is what I don’t understand. Why send her back to her parents / mother? | | | |
| Children in Care - Wales on 17:40 - May 28 with 940 views | Whiterockin |
| Children in Care - Wales on 17:35 - May 28 by AguycalledJack |
This is what I don’t understand. Why send her back to her parents / mother? |
Regretfully parental rights. [Post edited 28 May 2023 17:41]
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| Children in Care - Wales on 17:44 - May 28 with 923 views | AguycalledJack |
| Children in Care - Wales on 17:40 - May 28 by Whiterockin |
Regretfully parental rights. [Post edited 28 May 2023 17:41]
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But surely if in foster care already there’s an issue. If she’s improved that much while in foster care, it’s surely what’s in the child’s best interests that’s paramount, not the parents interests?
See case of Finley Bowden . | | | |
| Children in Care - Wales on 18:09 - May 28 with 906 views | Whiterockin |
| Children in Care - Wales on 17:44 - May 28 by AguycalledJack |
But surely if in foster care already there’s an issue. If she’s improved that much while in foster care, it’s surely what’s in the child’s best interests that’s paramount, not the parents interests?
See case of Finley Bowden . |
I'm not disagreeing with you mate, but sadly it happens far to often. | | | |
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