| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy 19:13 - Jan 29 with 731 views | Catullus |
I saw that a former Cardiff player, Keith Pontin, has died of Dementia after suffering CTE from heading a ball so often during his career.
Obviously condolences to his friends and family, he was 64 and while it's not young, it's not very old either.
The big question though, if pro footballers can have this then waht about the legions of amateur players?
I fully admit among my many weaknesses as a player was heading, I was crap at it which could have caused more damage I guess but I tried hard to avoid it, I always tried to bring the ball down if I had any choice. Many people I played alongside though headed the ball very often. I don't know how many may have a problem waiting to happen.
I have looked and dementia cases are risng,
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/dementia
There is nothing i ahve found officially (from medical sources) even touching on whether amateur sport is adding to the problem. I hope the medical world is not missing a trick. I know football authorities have tried to mitigate the risks to young people by reducing heading in training sessions.
We are getting used to stories of ex pro's having demente from CTE, I hopeI don't start losing friends to it. |  |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:26 - Jan 30 with 666 views | Highjack |
It’s these training drills where the most damage is done. You won’t head the ball that often in a match but they did these drills where they’d be jumping and heading balls away in training for an hour every day. An impact to the head like a football is low risk if you’re only doing it every now and again because the CFS has chance to reset itself. But if you’re heading something over and over the brain is less protected and there’s more chance of damage being done. Your head is designed well to protect the brain when it takes the odd bump but it’s not designed to take several impacts in short succession. This is why a boxer might be able to take a massive punch in round one then a few minutes later be knocked out by a much lesser punch. |  |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:40 - Jan 30 with 661 views | DJack |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:26 - Jan 30 by Highjack |
It’s these training drills where the most damage is done. You won’t head the ball that often in a match but they did these drills where they’d be jumping and heading balls away in training for an hour every day. An impact to the head like a football is low risk if you’re only doing it every now and again because the CFS has chance to reset itself. But if you’re heading something over and over the brain is less protected and there’s more chance of damage being done. Your head is designed well to protect the brain when it takes the odd bump but it’s not designed to take several impacts in short succession. This is why a boxer might be able to take a massive punch in round one then a few minutes later be knocked out by a much lesser punch. |
That's a good point. |  |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 15:45 - Jan 30 with 634 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:26 - Jan 30 by Highjack |
It’s these training drills where the most damage is done. You won’t head the ball that often in a match but they did these drills where they’d be jumping and heading balls away in training for an hour every day. An impact to the head like a football is low risk if you’re only doing it every now and again because the CFS has chance to reset itself. But if you’re heading something over and over the brain is less protected and there’s more chance of damage being done. Your head is designed well to protect the brain when it takes the odd bump but it’s not designed to take several impacts in short succession. This is why a boxer might be able to take a massive punch in round one then a few minutes later be knocked out by a much lesser punch. |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 21:02 - Jan 30 with 605 views | A_Fans_Dad |
There is also another factor.
The old heavy Leather Ball which became even heavier when wet which the old guys played with all the time. | | | |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 11:15 - Jan 31 with 548 views | Highjack |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 21:02 - Jan 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
There is also another factor.
The old heavy Leather Ball which became even heavier when wet which the old guys played with all the time. |
I imagine in those days there would be more elbows flying as well. | |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:35 - Jan 31 with 529 views | BarrySwan |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 21:02 - Jan 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
There is also another factor.
The old heavy Leather Ball which became even heavier when wet which the old guys played with all the time. |
Those old leather balls were really unbelievable weren't they? Once wet they were virtually unkickable and heaven knows what damage they were doing to the average napper when headed.
The current footballs are obviously light as a feather in comparison and it may be found in 30 years time that because of that these alarming brain injuries and diseases being attributed to repetitive heading of footballs reverse in their frequency.
However that would take 30 or so years to find out if that theory is correct or not and of course no one can wait that long just to find out.
However I really don't see how heading can be eliminated from the game without seriously fundamentally changing the whole nature of the spot.
Perhaps a ban on repetitive heading in everyday training or something similar as an interim measure? [Post edited 31 Jan 2021 13:36]
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:47 - Jan 31 with 517 views | Dr_Winston |
Limiting the areas of the pitch where you can head the ball might make a difference. Penalty box only maybe. |  |
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| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:55 - Jan 31 with 516 views | Catullus |
| Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy on 13:47 - Jan 31 by Dr_Winston |
Limiting the areas of the pitch where you can head the ball might make a difference. Penalty box only maybe. |
I can't see it working, players will react wherever on the pitch they are.
We either keep heading or ban it completely.
I'm for keeping it, and, much like other jobs, you accept the risks. Make players sign disclaimers if needs be.
The balls are much lighter but we need to stop kids heading the ball in my opinion. Training with ball at feet, no balls over head height or it's a free kick.
I suppose the issue is, at what age do we allow heading? | |
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