| Probation foul ups on 16:54 - Jan 24 with 693 views | majorraglan |
This is just one in a catalogue of major faux pas by the Probation Services. Chris Grayling was responsible for introducing significant reforms including part privatisation when Theresa May was Home Secretary. Most of the changes were reversed about 2 years ago.
There’s huge shortages of staff, case loads are massive and staff were under all sorts of pressures and restrictions. Hopefully things will now improve, but if they’re going to cut the budgets again it’s not promising. |  | |  |
| Probation foul ups on 17:57 - Jan 24 with 681 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 16:54 - Jan 24 by majorraglan |
This is just one in a catalogue of major faux pas by the Probation Services. Chris Grayling was responsible for introducing significant reforms including part privatisation when Theresa May was Home Secretary. Most of the changes were reversed about 2 years ago.
There’s huge shortages of staff, case loads are massive and staff were under all sorts of pressures and restrictions. Hopefully things will now improve, but if they’re going to cut the budgets again it’s not promising. |
I’m
More concerned on the risk aspect | |
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| Probation foul ups on 18:01 - Jan 24 with 676 views | majorraglan |
| Probation foul ups on 17:57 - Jan 24 by onehunglow |
I’m
More concerned on the risk aspect |
Indeed. This case is now in the papers, last month we had the case of the monster who beat his girlfriend, her daughter and a friend to death in Derby.
The errors are horrendous. | | | |
| Probation foul ups on 18:44 - Jan 24 with 660 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 18:01 - Jan 24 by majorraglan |
Indeed. This case is now in the papers, last month we had the case of the monster who beat his girlfriend, her daughter and a friend to death in Derby.
The errors are horrendous. |
Good exchange and I thank you You are the only respondent to this grotesque act of mismanagement
It’s always as bad as parole boards guessing the risk of someone being reformed and safe to float amongst us all
We allow this without a squeak
Look at the endless tedious threads on absolute trifia
God help us all
Right now ,we are more upset over a Tory minister avoiding tax , as we all do It’s why people have iSAs .., to avoid tax | |
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| Probation foul ups on 09:46 - Jan 25 with 609 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Probation foul ups on 18:44 - Jan 24 by onehunglow |
Good exchange and I thank you You are the only respondent to this grotesque act of mismanagement
It’s always as bad as parole boards guessing the risk of someone being reformed and safe to float amongst us all
We allow this without a squeak
Look at the endless tedious threads on absolute trifia
God help us all
Right now ,we are more upset over a Tory minister avoiding tax , as we all do It’s why people have iSAs .., to avoid tax |
Another example this week a convicted murder who fled to this country and claimed asylum pretending to be 14 years old. The human rights brigad said it was inhumane to for the Government to do physical checks to determine asylum seekers actual age. He went on to commit murder in this country and will spend 20 years at our expense in prison. He should have been deported on arrival. | |
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| Probation foul ups on 09:50 - Jan 25 with 608 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 09:46 - Jan 25 by felixstowe_jack |
Another example this week a convicted murder who fled to this country and claimed asylum pretending to be 14 years old. The human rights brigad said it was inhumane to for the Government to do physical checks to determine asylum seekers actual age. He went on to commit murder in this country and will spend 20 years at our expense in prison. He should have been deported on arrival. |
Morning.
Crazy is it not,almost as crazy as the bile spouted over much less profound dangers to society .
This has nothing to do with staffing levels
This is a decision made and one that led to recidivist murder .
We seem hardly bothered . This subject should be 20 pager | |
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| Probation foul ups on 22:34 - Jan 25 with 573 views | majorraglan |
| Probation foul ups on 09:50 - Jan 25 by onehunglow |
Morning.
Crazy is it not,almost as crazy as the bile spouted over much less profound dangers to society .
This has nothing to do with staffing levels
This is a decision made and one that led to recidivist murder .
We seem hardly bothered . This subject should be 20 pager |
Indeed, more whataboutery from FJ.
The fact that HR activists protested against the age screening of asylum seekers isn’t relevant to this thread - it should be in another thread. FWIW I’m of the view that where there are doubts as to age, we should definitely be conducting tests but that’s for discussion in another thread.
There was an article in yesterday’s Daily Express that said prisoners on licence had killed 599 people during the last decade - that’s an average of 59 per year. The article went on to say there are over 500 further serious offences, including murder and rape, committed by criminals on probation each year. The above are just staggering and shows how badly things became following the introduction of the reforms instigated during May and Grayling’s watch. | | | |
| Probation foul ups on 08:39 - Jan 26 with 560 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 22:34 - Jan 25 by majorraglan |
Indeed, more whataboutery from FJ.
The fact that HR activists protested against the age screening of asylum seekers isn’t relevant to this thread - it should be in another thread. FWIW I’m of the view that where there are doubts as to age, we should definitely be conducting tests but that’s for discussion in another thread.
There was an article in yesterday’s Daily Express that said prisoners on licence had killed 599 people during the last decade - that’s an average of 59 per year. The article went on to say there are over 500 further serious offences, including murder and rape, committed by criminals on probation each year. The above are just staggering and shows how badly things became following the introduction of the reforms instigated during May and Grayling’s watch. |
May was considered by most Police Officers I know as the very worst Home Sec.
A vicious vixen with real contempt in her corset | |
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| Probation foul ups on 12:22 - Jan 26 with 537 views | johnlangy |
| Probation foul ups on 09:50 - Jan 25 by onehunglow |
Morning.
Crazy is it not,almost as crazy as the bile spouted over much less profound dangers to society .
This has nothing to do with staffing levels
This is a decision made and one that led to recidivist murder .
We seem hardly bothered . This subject should be 20 pager |
I only heard this in passing yesterday but someone on the radio said that info received by the probation service from - can't be certain what I heard to be honest - the prison service (maybe) turned out to be inaccurate.
Sorry it's so vague. | | | |
| Probation foul ups on 16:42 - Jan 26 with 511 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 12:22 - Jan 26 by johnlangy |
I only heard this in passing yesterday but someone on the radio said that info received by the probation service from - can't be certain what I heard to be honest - the prison service (maybe) turned out to be inaccurate.
Sorry it's so vague. |
Always good to exchange views with you JL | |
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| Probation foul ups on 18:55 - Jan 26 with 494 views | Gwyn737 |
| Probation foul ups on 09:46 - Jan 25 by felixstowe_jack |
Another example this week a convicted murder who fled to this country and claimed asylum pretending to be 14 years old. The human rights brigad said it was inhumane to for the Government to do physical checks to determine asylum seekers actual age. He went on to commit murder in this country and will spend 20 years at our expense in prison. He should have been deported on arrival. |
Yes, it’s awful. The government have failed completely on immigration policy - see the dozens of children lost from the system in Brighton this week.
It’s all part of the wider failings of the system isn’t it? Grayling at Justice followed Dominic Raab (who decimated the court system before being reappointed).
How do you feel about these massive systemic failings by the Tory party? | | | |
| Probation foul ups on 18:17 - Jan 28 with 433 views | majorraglan |
| Probation foul ups on 18:55 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
Yes, it’s awful. The government have failed completely on immigration policy - see the dozens of children lost from the system in Brighton this week.
It’s all part of the wider failings of the system isn’t it? Grayling at Justice followed Dominic Raab (who decimated the court system before being reappointed).
How do you feel about these massive systemic failings by the Tory party? |
Doesn’t make good reading.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/probation-murder-aleena-prison-relea [Post edited 28 Jan 2023 18:18]
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| Probation foul ups on 18:45 - Jan 28 with 423 views | Gwyn737 |
It’s horrendous.
It’s also horrendous that it takes a heinous crime by an Albanian for a certain section of society to take notice. | | | |
| Probation foul ups on 21:57 - Jan 28 with 407 views | onehunglow |
| Probation foul ups on 18:55 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
Yes, it’s awful. The government have failed completely on immigration policy - see the dozens of children lost from the system in Brighton this week.
It’s all part of the wider failings of the system isn’t it? Grayling at Justice followed Dominic Raab (who decimated the court system before being reappointed).
How do you feel about these massive systemic failings by the Tory party? |
Fair point
That said Labourcseem to simply want them all in
They ll vote Labour
Very sinister | |
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