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It just shows that the high prices we pay are a deliberate manipulation of the markets. Saudi are now building new petrochemical plants in China and shouldn't we be worrie about the Saudi's and China cosying up?
Evety year blls rise, tax goes up, council tax rises but every year we are told there isn't enough money and we also face cuts, where does the money go?
When Oliver talks about the banks remember this, a large part of the national debt is to ourselves, 23% of our national debt is owed to the Bank of England,
We are being screwed from every angle and we meekly accept it because hardly anubody gives a monkeys any more. We have all resorted to just looking after ourselves and to heck with others and that was just what the grand plan needed for it to work. Divide and conquer. The rich have taken control, they are taking all the wealth, all the privilige and the majority of us are being reduced to serfdom again, slowly but surely.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:05 - Mar 30 with 2208 views
It is indeed an interesting watch; though provoking and some sensible points.
I think he’s way over simplified the childcare/stay at home mum/ birth rate stuff but that’s pretty much all I differ on.
An uncomfortable addition I’d make is that it’s all well blaming billionaires and oligarchs but we have to face that we have accountability ( by we I mean those of us who are 45ish plus).
We’ve allowed this to happen. We had cheap housing, free further education and ever cheaper food. We then pulled the ladder up behind us ad tell young people there’d be fine if they worked harder and gave up their mobile phone, Netflix and avocado toast there’d be fine.
We know have the first generation who’ll be worse off than their parents and a lower life expectancy.
We need a reset.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:11 - Mar 30 with 2185 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:05 - Mar 30 by Gwyn737
It is indeed an interesting watch; though provoking and some sensible points.
I think he’s way over simplified the childcare/stay at home mum/ birth rate stuff but that’s pretty much all I differ on.
An uncomfortable addition I’d make is that it’s all well blaming billionaires and oligarchs but we have to face that we have accountability ( by we I mean those of us who are 45ish plus).
We’ve allowed this to happen. We had cheap housing, free further education and ever cheaper food. We then pulled the ladder up behind us ad tell young people there’d be fine if they worked harder and gave up their mobile phone, Netflix and avocado toast there’d be fine.
We know have the first generation who’ll be worse off than their parents and a lower life expectancy.
We need a reset.
“We’ve allowed this to happen. We had cheap housing, free further education and ever cheaper food. We then pulled the ladder up behind us ad tell young people there’d be fine if they worked harder and gave up their mobile phone, Netflix and avocado toast there’d be fine.”
I’ve never had cheap housing, never had free education or cheap food. I think my parents were on food stamps when I was a kid.
I didn’t spend my money on expensive phones, didn’t spend my money on avocado on toast, didn’t spend £100 on a weekend on drinking like some others were.
I represent the very people you claim to be speaking up for. I can confirm from first hand experience that those that said “work hard and stop spending your money on consumerism” are absolutely spot on.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:11 - Mar 30 by Dr_Parnassus
“We’ve allowed this to happen. We had cheap housing, free further education and ever cheaper food. We then pulled the ladder up behind us ad tell young people there’d be fine if they worked harder and gave up their mobile phone, Netflix and avocado toast there’d be fine.”
I’ve never had cheap housing, never had free education or cheap food. I think my parents were on food stamps when I was a kid.
I didn’t spend my money on expensive phones, didn’t spend my money on avocado on toast, didn’t spend £100 on a weekend on drinking like some others were.
I represent the very people you claim to be speaking up for. I can confirm from first hand experience that those that said “work hard and stop spending your money on consumerism” are absolutely spot on.
You failed to say how old you are ?
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:36 - Mar 30 with 2181 views
It just shows that the high prices we pay are a deliberate manipulation of the markets. Saudi are now building new petrochemical plants in China and shouldn't we be worrie about the Saudi's and China cosying up?
Evety year blls rise, tax goes up, council tax rises but every year we are told there isn't enough money and we also face cuts, where does the money go?
When Oliver talks about the banks remember this, a large part of the national debt is to ourselves, 23% of our national debt is owed to the Bank of England,
We are being screwed from every angle and we meekly accept it because hardly anubody gives a monkeys any more. We have all resorted to just looking after ourselves and to heck with others and that was just what the grand plan needed for it to work. Divide and conquer. The rich have taken control, they are taking all the wealth, all the privilige and the majority of us are being reduced to serfdom again, slowly but surely.
A comfortable benefits system, furlough when the ‘pandemic’ was evident and the ability to buy fags and booze on the dole suits an ever growing ratio of people. If you can’t rise up against the system due to day time tv taking precedence or it’s easier to complain on social media then the govt will continue to rub their hands.
A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:36 - Mar 30 by KeithHaynes
A comfortable benefits system, furlough when the ‘pandemic’ was evident and the ability to buy fags and booze on the dole suits an ever growing ratio of people. If you can’t rise up against the system due to day time tv taking precedence or it’s easier to complain on social media then the govt will continue to rub their hands.
The benefits system forms part of what I was on about in the presenter simplifying the childcare part.
He’s right that pay in the sector is awful, but the cost to the user is incredibly high in this country.
The difference between paying for childcare to work and going on benefits is too often negligible.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:55 - Mar 30 with 2150 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:43 - Mar 30 by Gwyn737
The benefits system forms part of what I was on about in the presenter simplifying the childcare part.
He’s right that pay in the sector is awful, but the cost to the user is incredibly high in this country.
The difference between paying for childcare to work and going on benefits is too often negligible.
Or you could make the sensible choice and decide not to have children until financially capable of doing so without Government support or childcare taking up a too large a chunk of your income.
It’s not a surprise that a child needs care. It’s not something that has been sprung on parents.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:43 - Mar 30 by Gwyn737
The benefits system forms part of what I was on about in the presenter simplifying the childcare part.
He’s right that pay in the sector is awful, but the cost to the user is incredibly high in this country.
The difference between paying for childcare to work and going on benefits is too often negligible.
The Carer system needs a complete overall, its currently 68 quid a week for a designated carer its ridiculous and an absolute insult to any carer, nobody would take a job that pays £68 a week for a job that can be 24/7 quite regularly.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:22 - Mar 30 by max936
The Carer system needs a complete overall, its currently 68 quid a week for a designated carer its ridiculous and an absolute insult to any carer, nobody would take a job that pays £68 a week for a job that can be 24/7 quite regularly.
Spot on and there’s parallels with childcare.
Carers get rubbish pay yet the cost of paying for it can be massive.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:29 - Mar 30 with 2126 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:55 - Mar 30 by Dr_Parnassus
I didn’t fail, I didn’t attempt to.
I’m in my 30’s.
Thank you .I'm a lot older so your experiences are mine but I never nor my parents had the choices or pressures because of those choices that this generation have .
"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:40 - Mar 30 with 2096 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:29 - Mar 30 by Boundy
Thank you .I'm a lot older so your experiences are mine but I never nor my parents had the choices or pressures because of those choices that this generation have .
This generation is probably the most privileged generation that has ever existed. I can’t stand the excuses constantly made for them.
7 year olds with iPhones, the ability to self generate income through the internet from the comfort of your own home, the availability of cheap travel, the ability to self learn whether that be new skills or languages all for free via mediums such as YouTube, the ability to network via social media (as much as I hate it).
Any competent young person that doesn’t make a success out of themselves in this day and age can look no further than themselves.
The ability to up-skill is at everyone’s fingertips free of charge. People want it handed to them though.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:27 - Mar 30 by Gwyn737
Spot on and there’s parallels with childcare.
Carers get rubbish pay yet the cost of paying for it can be massive.
Carers who do it as a job are very underpaid I agree, that would be improved if the care staff where certificated with a qualification which they deserve [it takes a special kind of person to work in the caring sector], then the care providers would be able to charge more and therefore pay their care staff a better rate of pay.
My point was more regarding people who care for a loved one at home, the strain is unbearable on times for the carer and the extended family.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 19:22 - Mar 30 by max936
The Carer system needs a complete overall, its currently 68 quid a week for a designated carer its ridiculous and an absolute insult to any carer, nobody would take a job that pays £68 a week for a job that can be 24/7 quite regularly.
£68 for family carees or as a job ?
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A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 20:42 - Mar 30 by KeithHaynes
£68 for family carees or as a job ?
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Family carer of which only one is the designated carer, its a 24/7 job in the main, even if you deduct the 6/7 hrs that they maybe at the day centre, apart from the care involved there is also the issues of regular disturbed sleep.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 18:05 - Mar 30 by Gwyn737
It is indeed an interesting watch; though provoking and some sensible points.
I think he’s way over simplified the childcare/stay at home mum/ birth rate stuff but that’s pretty much all I differ on.
An uncomfortable addition I’d make is that it’s all well blaming billionaires and oligarchs but we have to face that we have accountability ( by we I mean those of us who are 45ish plus).
We’ve allowed this to happen. We had cheap housing, free further education and ever cheaper food. We then pulled the ladder up behind us ad tell young people there’d be fine if they worked harder and gave up their mobile phone, Netflix and avocado toast there’d be fine.
We know have the first generation who’ll be worse off than their parents and a lower life expectancy.
We need a reset.
Sorry Gwyn but I disagree, a lot. Education, just like the NHS is not and never (in my lifetime) has been free, being paid for out of taxes.
This "pulling the ladder up" I find quite insulting. I'm 56 soon and I haven't pulled any ladders. Myself and my wife are, I fact, working hard to enable our son to have his first house free. High property prices and low wages, yes let's blame the middle aged workforce eh, no. That doesn't sit right with me.
Dr P, if you wait til you can afford children you will probably never have any.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 06:36 - Mar 31 with 1925 views
Sorry Gwyn but I disagree, a lot. Education, just like the NHS is not and never (in my lifetime) has been free, being paid for out of taxes.
This "pulling the ladder up" I find quite insulting. I'm 56 soon and I haven't pulled any ladders. Myself and my wife are, I fact, working hard to enable our son to have his first house free. High property prices and low wages, yes let's blame the middle aged workforce eh, no. That doesn't sit right with me.
Dr P, if you wait til you can afford children you will probably never have any.
I respect your take on it Cat and I was generalising.
Would you say it’s harder for kids now than it was for you and I?
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 07:23 - Mar 31 with 1909 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 06:36 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737
I respect your take on it Cat and I was generalising.
Would you say it’s harder for kids now than it was for you and I?
Buying my first home was hard. Unemployment was very high when I was 18.
I see a lot of young people with the latest smart phone, expensive clothes AND flashy cars, unless they are all drug dealers! I mean, how does an 18-25 year old afford top of the line mercs and bmw's? Go into Swansea, down the kingsway to ace of blades barbers and you'll see a stream of these cars being parked on the pavement while they ho gor a 30 quid haircut, usually they're wearing designer clothes and brandishing expensive phones, being very showy about it. Ok, I'm generalising too but its what I used to see. Housewives now are not my fault.
On another string, why do some young people with a degree think any job is beneath them?
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 07:36 - Mar 31 with 1901 views
Buying my first home was hard. Unemployment was very high when I was 18.
I see a lot of young people with the latest smart phone, expensive clothes AND flashy cars, unless they are all drug dealers! I mean, how does an 18-25 year old afford top of the line mercs and bmw's? Go into Swansea, down the kingsway to ace of blades barbers and you'll see a stream of these cars being parked on the pavement while they ho gor a 30 quid haircut, usually they're wearing designer clothes and brandishing expensive phones, being very showy about it. Ok, I'm generalising too but its what I used to see. Housewives now are not my fault.
On another string, why do some young people with a degree think any job is beneath them?
There’s bound to be bad apples, Cat.
I’m fully aware I’ve blind spots and one of them is a consistent positive regard for young people. The massive majority I come across are great. Thanks why I get rilled when grumpy old men say they should just have a cheaper phone 😉.
Like you, I’m working hard to give the boy a chance but that’s at least partly because I had it easier than he will.
The job question is complex. A combination of cheap foreign labour, too small a gap between wages and benefits, social media presenting unrealistic expectations of life to name a few.
It’s also cultural. Some point to immigrants draining the benefits system but unfortunately there is a culture of dependancy in some of our communities
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 09:00 - Mar 31 with 1885 views
Sorry Gwyn but I disagree, a lot. Education, just like the NHS is not and never (in my lifetime) has been free, being paid for out of taxes.
This "pulling the ladder up" I find quite insulting. I'm 56 soon and I haven't pulled any ladders. Myself and my wife are, I fact, working hard to enable our son to have his first house free. High property prices and low wages, yes let's blame the middle aged workforce eh, no. That doesn't sit right with me.
Dr P, if you wait til you can afford children you will probably never have any.
I could have comfortably afforded children in my mid 20’s but I don’t want them, I move too much for my career.
But just like most things in life, you need to work for what you want in life - that includes children. Having them knowing you can’t really afford them is not only unfair on them but completely stunts any growth potential for the parents too.
This need to have children extremely young is one of the main reasons people struggle financially.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
Infiltrating the truth ? on 09:00 - Mar 31 by Dr_Parnassus
I could have comfortably afforded children in my mid 20’s but I don’t want them, I move too much for my career.
But just like most things in life, you need to work for what you want in life - that includes children. Having them knowing you can’t really afford them is not only unfair on them but completely stunts any growth potential for the parents too.
This need to have children extremely young is one of the main reasons people struggle financially.
I didn't want kids at all and that only changed when I hit 38 and met my wife. We have been through hardships since he was born, financial problems caused by I'll health for both of us but we worked through it. And of course, I was 40 when he was born and we stopped at one. Most people make their life fit their kids and do t wait til kids fit their life.
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 11:00 - Mar 31 with 1859 views
I didn't want kids at all and that only changed when I hit 38 and met my wife. We have been through hardships since he was born, financial problems caused by I'll health for both of us but we worked through it. And of course, I was 40 when he was born and we stopped at one. Most people make their life fit their kids and do t wait til kids fit their life.
“ Most people make their life fit their kids and do t wait til kids fit their life.”
That’s exactly right. For me, if you take that choice knowing it will hamper you financially rather than waiting to be in a better position before having children, then there is no real complain that can be had.
It was an informed decision with the consequences fully known.
Swansea Independent Poster of the Year 2021 and 2022.
I didn't want kids at all and that only changed when I hit 38 and met my wife. We have been through hardships since he was born, financial problems caused by I'll health for both of us but we worked through it. And of course, I was 40 when he was born and we stopped at one. Most people make their life fit their kids and do t wait til kids fit their life.
I reckon that's true around fitting kids in in many cases.
People have kids sometimes earlier than they want two as they want to enjoy them while still active.
I consciously went for it when I turned thirty (although probably not finacially totally ready) as I wanted to have active holidays, play dad's football and turn up at sports days.
*we won the nursery parent/child relay at a canter
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 21:05 - Mar 31 with 1754 views
Infiltrating the truth ? on 12:04 - Mar 31 by Gwyn737
I reckon that's true around fitting kids in in many cases.
People have kids sometimes earlier than they want two as they want to enjoy them while still active.
I consciously went for it when I turned thirty (although probably not finacially totally ready) as I wanted to have active holidays, play dad's football and turn up at sports days.
*we won the nursery parent/child relay at a canter
My personal thought is either have kids young or wait til your older, don't do it between 22 and 32.
As I said, I didn't want kids until I was older and the benefit there is I was much more prepared to be a parent. I'd spent a lot of time with my sisters kids, babysitting, days out etc so I knew what being a parent meant and I'd had hands on practice.
We hijacked the thread now, time to get back on topic...
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Infiltrating the truth ? on 07:21 - Apr 1 with 1696 views
It just shows that the high prices we pay are a deliberate manipulation of the markets. Saudi are now building new petrochemical plants in China and shouldn't we be worrie about the Saudi's and China cosying up?
Evety year blls rise, tax goes up, council tax rises but every year we are told there isn't enough money and we also face cuts, where does the money go?
When Oliver talks about the banks remember this, a large part of the national debt is to ourselves, 23% of our national debt is owed to the Bank of England,
We are being screwed from every angle and we meekly accept it because hardly anubody gives a monkeys any more. We have all resorted to just looking after ourselves and to heck with others and that was just what the grand plan needed for it to work. Divide and conquer. The rich have taken control, they are taking all the wealth, all the privilige and the majority of us are being reduced to serfdom again, slowly but surely.
Some of us have been fighting for many years and still do so to this day. We've been demonised, locked out of society and labelled domestic terrorists for having the gall to question the narrative of those corrupt western governments who are raking in the bucks.
Have a look at what is happening around you, the homeless situation right now is heartbreaking, people can't afford to have a home to call their own, even some that can afford it can't have one because there is a shortage.
Prices are spiralling out of control and there is no logical reason as to why yet we can send billions to the Ukraine, a war the west are pushing for more than ever, no peace deals no nothing.
People are hitting the streets in massive numbers, over 3.5 million a day in France but there is no media coverage whatsoever.
The constant stream of fighting age soldiers trained by nato has been flowing into the UK for many a year but anyone who speaks up about it are again demonised.
I could go on but until people start seeing the wood for the tree's it's only going to get worse.
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