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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 17:27 - Apr 13 by johnlangy
It must be true if Reform says it mustn't it .
When one takes a look at the demography, the kind of jobs the majority of those who actually work will have, and the impact of family reunifications, it doesn't take a genius to understand there will be a very substantial long-term cost - not the economic boost some on the Left claim.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 18:49 - Apr 13 with 2060 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 18:49 - Apr 13 by shingle
They are probably no less untruthful than our mainstream media outlets.
It's very interesting that Reform are warning of an impending disaster. Those responsible for immigration and border security during a large part of this time are Suella Braverman and Robert Jenrick.
Whatever happened to them?
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 22:21 - Apr 13 with 1996 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 21:19 - Apr 13 by Scotia
It's very interesting that Reform are warning of an impending disaster. Those responsible for immigration and border security during a large part of this time are Suella Braverman and Robert Jenrick.
Whatever happened to them?
Gosh Scotia, you are very cynical. I can't think why.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 03:32 - Apr 14 with 1935 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 18:33 - Apr 13 by AnotherJohn
When one takes a look at the demography, the kind of jobs the majority of those who actually work will have, and the impact of family reunifications, it doesn't take a genius to understand there will be a very substantial long-term cost - not the economic boost some on the Left claim.
But they are doing the jobs British people aren't. Which is why not paying benefits to foreign nationals can never happen, most benefits are paid to those in low paid jobs British people wont do.
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 05:59 - Apr 14 by Scotia
But they are doing the jobs British people aren't. Which is why not paying benefits to foreign nationals can never happen, most benefits are paid to those in low paid jobs British people wont do.
Fewer are in the jobs we thought they were and quite a large proportion have no jobs at all. Look at what happened with social care recruitment. The risk is that we have got ourselves in an awful mess to ensure we have enough people to deliver fast food.
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 07:42 - Apr 14 by AnotherJohn
Fewer are in the jobs we thought they were and quite a large proportion have no jobs at all. Look at what happened with social care recruitment. The risk is that we have got ourselves in an awful mess to ensure we have enough people to deliver fast food.
Most of those that don't have jobs are students or dependents of those that do, the main post Brexit problem is that those filling those jobs are here to stay and aren't going to go back to their country of origin. Just consider how few Poles are here compared to a decade ago.
The risk is that we're completely dependent on migrant Labour, we shouldn't be. I honestly think being a steward in most of the Swansea.com stadium is one of the easiest jobs in the world. Why aren't they over staffed with British people but reliant on Indian / African migrants?
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 08:52 - Apr 14 with 1850 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 08:04 - Apr 14 by Scotia
Most of those that don't have jobs are students or dependents of those that do, the main post Brexit problem is that those filling those jobs are here to stay and aren't going to go back to their country of origin. Just consider how few Poles are here compared to a decade ago.
The risk is that we're completely dependent on migrant Labour, we shouldn't be. I honestly think being a steward in most of the Swansea.com stadium is one of the easiest jobs in the world. Why aren't they over staffed with British people but reliant on Indian / African migrants?
Agree with the last paragraph, but I'm still doubtful about the idea that most are in key jobs. Figures released recently show that only 17% of the 3.8 million in the Boris wave came as workers on work visas.
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 08:52 - Apr 14 by AnotherJohn
Agree with the last paragraph, but I'm still doubtful about the idea that most are in key jobs. Figures released recently show that only 17% of the 3.8 million in the Boris wave came as workers on work visas.
That article is written by Farage - who's answer to "something needs to be done" is employ those responsible for causing it in the first place. How anybody takes this idiot seriously is beyond me.
It would be an interesting to see the breakdown in stats - I suspect most are Ukrainian refugees and students. But the fact remains we are reliant on migrant Labour.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:32 - Apr 14 with 1819 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:24 - Apr 14 by Scotia
That article is written by Farage - who's answer to "something needs to be done" is employ those responsible for causing it in the first place. How anybody takes this idiot seriously is beyond me.
It would be an interesting to see the breakdown in stats - I suspect most are Ukrainian refugees and students. But the fact remains we are reliant on migrant Labour.
We shouldn’t rely on foreign labour to do jobs our feckless dhslllw kids don’t do 70% of the staff on the care homes I visit are Filipino They care They are not migrants They have visas Migrants in boats don’t
What we should ask is why so many of ours won’t work as a carer amongst the blood shite and despair the elderly face
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:32 - Apr 14 by onehunglow
We shouldn’t rely on foreign labour to do jobs our feckless dhslllw kids don’t do 70% of the staff on the care homes I visit are Filipino They care They are not migrants They have visas Migrants in boats don’t
What we should ask is why so many of ours won’t work as a carer amongst the blood shite and despair the elderly face
They are migrants. The vast majority of migrants don't come in boats.
Those who can work should work, even if it's a job they don't want to do. Those that genuinely can't work need to be supported but not so they're better off than anyone in work.
This is the biggest problem in society
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:53 - Apr 14 with 1797 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:24 - Apr 14 by Scotia
That article is written by Farage - who's answer to "something needs to be done" is employ those responsible for causing it in the first place. How anybody takes this idiot seriously is beyond me.
It would be an interesting to see the breakdown in stats - I suspect most are Ukrainian refugees and students. But the fact remains we are reliant on migrant Labour.
Edit: Re students and Ukraine report states: "Many of the visa routes created under the new system do not provide a direct route to applying for ILR. These include sponsored study visas (1.74 million) and visas for Ukrainian refugees (260,000)." The two categories together account for about 2 million of 3.8 million issued with visas in this period. However, readers will recall that the thrust of the story is about the high long-term cost of those immigrants who have a route to ILR, UK citizenship and full eligibility for welfare benefits. It follows that the majority of students and Ukrainians admitted under the special scheme won't contribute to this problem.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:56 - Apr 14 with 1792 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:43 - Apr 14 by Scotia
They are migrants. The vast majority of migrants don't come in boats.
Those who can work should work, even if it's a job they don't want to do. Those that genuinely can't work need to be supported but not so they're better off than anyone in work.
Edit: Re students and Ukraine report states: "Many of the visa routes created under the new system do not provide a direct route to applying for ILR. These include sponsored study visas (1.74 million) and visas for Ukrainian refugees (260,000)." The two categories together account for about 2 million of 3.8 million issued with visas in this period. However, readers will recall that the thrust of the story is about the high long-term cost of those immigrants who have a route to ILR, UK citizenship and full eligibility for welfare benefits. It follows that the majority of students and Ukrainians admitted under the special scheme won't contribute to this problem.
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It does show Nige being disingenous at best. His 17% figure only applies to the main applicants on works visas. Most migrants have work authorisation but are not main applicants on work visas, instead arriving on family or dependant visas, or as students or refugees.
Non British nationals make up about 20% of the workforce, that's far too high.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 12:28 - Apr 14 with 1762 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 12:08 - Apr 14 by Scotia
It does show Nige being disingenous at best. His 17% figure only applies to the main applicants on works visas. Most migrants have work authorisation but are not main applicants on work visas, instead arriving on family or dependant visas, or as students or refugees.
Non British nationals make up about 20% of the workforce, that's far too high.
Not sure about your main point. The categories making up the 17% are the workers in the three work categories listed (and yes, the lead applicants). The others admitted with these visas are "dependents", who may or may not subsequently get work but do not enter with work arranged. If they did (as far as I understand things having skimmed the guidance) they would require visas under the appropriate work category and would be counted under that work visa category even if in practice dependent family members.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 14:10 - Apr 14 with 1740 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 12:28 - Apr 14 by AnotherJohn
Not sure about your main point. The categories making up the 17% are the workers in the three work categories listed (and yes, the lead applicants). The others admitted with these visas are "dependents", who may or may not subsequently get work but do not enter with work arranged. If they did (as far as I understand things having skimmed the guidance) they would require visas under the appropriate work category and would be counted under that work visa category even if in practice dependent family members.
It's correct. An international student can work in the UK, someone on a family or dependent visa needs no further visa to work or be self employed.
Nigel said:-
"And only 17 per cent of them came to Britain as workers on work visas. Many are young and old dependents who are a drain on our already-bloated welfare state."
He doesn't know that, any of those over the age of 16 could have come on a dependent visa with a view to work.
I'm not denying it's a problem that needs to be sorted - I think an end to ILR needs to be implemented, but the first problem to solve is filling vacancies.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:17 - Apr 15 with 1647 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 14:10 - Apr 14 by Scotia
It's correct. An international student can work in the UK, someone on a family or dependent visa needs no further visa to work or be self employed.
Nigel said:-
"And only 17 per cent of them came to Britain as workers on work visas. Many are young and old dependents who are a drain on our already-bloated welfare state."
He doesn't know that, any of those over the age of 16 could have come on a dependent visa with a view to work.
I'm not denying it's a problem that needs to be sorted - I think an end to ILR needs to be implemented, but the first problem to solve is filling vacancies.
I wasn't suggesting dependents would need a visa for employment they arranged after arrival. I may be wrong, but had the impression that if for example a wife agreed employment in a skilled labour category prior to arrival they would themselves get a visa under that category and show up in the statistics.
It seems that there are no official stats on the percentage of dependents of worker visa holders in employment. However, analysis of taxation shows that about 45% have some PAYE income. How much of this comes from full-time employment is unclear. Degree level students (as opposed to student dependents) cannot normally work more than 20 hours a week.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:30 - Apr 15 with 1635 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:43 - Apr 14 by Scotia
They are migrants. The vast majority of migrants don't come in boats.
Those who can work should work, even if it's a job they don't want to do. Those that genuinely can't work need to be supported but not so they're better off than anyone in work.
This is the biggest problem in society
This with bells on.
Those coming here to work who also do not want to bring their own beliefs to OUR country are more than welcome.
As for the workshy British born people personally I believe they should have vouchers for food/heating & not be allowed to spunk my hard earned money paid through my taxes on fags, booze & sky TV.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:23 - Apr 15 with 1575 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 09:30 - Apr 15 by pencoedjack
This with bells on.
Those coming here to work who also do not want to bring their own beliefs to OUR country are more than welcome.
As for the workshy British born people personally I believe they should have vouchers for food/heating & not be allowed to spunk my hard earned money paid through my taxes on fags, booze & sky TV.
That would be seen as far right and uncaring by many However it is absolutely correct We could also tell young women they don’t have to get impregnated on a whim or because they can get a house oh there got a sprog
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:23 - Apr 15 by onehunglow
That would be seen as far right and uncaring by many However it is absolutely correct We could also tell young women they don’t have to get impregnated on a whim or because they can get a house oh there got a sprog
We have utterly lost it
I'm sure the kids of the parents now receiving additional child allowance if they have more than 2 brothers or sisters would see it as right not far right.
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More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 12:31 - Apr 15 with 1538 views
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 10:29 - Apr 15 by pencoedjack
I'm sure the kids of the parents now receiving additional child allowance if they have more than 2 brothers or sisters would see it as right not far right.
Doing much this summer matey I feel very tired , seriously Tough times really
More Good News - Not Just the Boats on 21:19 - Apr 13 by Scotia
It's very interesting that Reform are warning of an impending disaster. Those responsible for immigration and border security during a large part of this time are Suella Braverman and Robert Jenrick.
Whatever happened to them?
Have you forgotten or proberbly have no idea that Bravaman was trying to implement policies to try and stop the unvetted illegals but she was continously shot down by her own party no wonder she jumped ship.
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