| Freefall 21:36 - Nov 27 with 7526 views | Bobbi66 |
Can't see where the next win is coming from.So poor tonight from back to front.Are there three teams worse than us in this league.Long hard winter |  | | |  |
| Freefall on 23:51 - Nov 27 with 1524 views | wombat |
| Freefall on 23:48 - Nov 27 by Hunterhoop |
ST holder. PU. Row R. Seat 226. Yes, I was there. |
Yes I was there lower loft kl same as always funny how you pick soowen out as why we got fecked tonight when
Kane
Leister
Lumley
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| Freefall on 23:56 - Nov 27 with 1495 views | Hunterhoop |
| Freefall on 23:51 - Nov 27 by wombat |
Yes I was there lower loft kl same as always funny how you pick soowen out as why we got fecked tonight when
Kane
Leister
Lumley
Were more to blame |
And I completely disagree. There we go.
Remarkable.
I actually think we “got f*cked” because of Warburton tonight, but I do think Scowen was dreadful when he came on. Like he was dreadful at home to Brentford and Reading. But carry on picking on Eze.
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| Freefall on 00:05 - Nov 28 with 1450 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Freefall on 23:38 - Nov 27 by Hunterhoop |
??? Genuinely??? I’d love to see any stats backing that up. What tackles? What blocks? |
This is from WestLondonSport's ratings from tonight:
Having replaced Chair early in the second half, Scowen performed heroics with his double clearance to foil Figueiredo and Joao Carvalho — but then allowed the latter to glide past him for Forest’s third goal.
Far worse players than Scowen tonight (all the other midfielders, Manning, Lumley etc) so not sure why you are scapegoating the lad. |  | | |
| Freefall on 00:11 - Nov 28 with 1435 views | ManinBlack |
| Freefall on 23:41 - Nov 27 by superhoopdownunder |
One positive is we are playing Derby next and they are quite a poor team.
When is Barbet back?
Our record with him in the team is significantly better than when he has not played. |
I fail to see any positives about playing away to Derby where we now seem to lose there every season. Whilst Derby might appear to be a poor team on their travels, it should be pointed out that they have won their last five Championship home fixtures. Stick your money on a home win Saturday.
As usual as a QPR supporter, we are never far from a collapse, no matter how well things seem to be going. The slump last season, where I think we only amassed 12 points in the last 20 games, started with a home banker against Reading which we only drew. The slump this season appears to have started with a home banker against Reading which again we only drew. Maybe lightning does strike twice |  | | |
| Freefall on 00:11 - Nov 28 with 1428 views | Hunterhoop |
| Freefall on 00:05 - Nov 28 by Ned_Kennedys |
This is from WestLondonSport's ratings from tonight:
Having replaced Chair early in the second half, Scowen performed heroics with his double clearance to foil Figueiredo and Joao Carvalho — but then allowed the latter to glide past him for Forest’s third goal.
Far worse players than Scowen tonight (all the other midfielders, Manning, Lumley etc) so not sure why you are scapegoating the lad. |
I’m not scapegoating the lad. Stop posting boll*cks.
We were obviously awful. In my opinion, and there is the clue Sherlock, only Eze and Ball came out with any credit at all all. I agree that many players had shockers, including some that were awguall game. But I didn’t feel the need to post that, as it’s been said!
In my opinion too - are you getting the concept of a forum yet - Scowen was dreadful. Honestly, everyone I spoke to in the pub afterwards agreed and i’m astounded anyone sees it differently on here, hence my original posts. That’s why I posted; not because of any scapegoating. To push back against what I believe is absolutely terrible analysis. But there you go; you disagree.
By all means hold your opinion, but respect my right to think it’s boll*cks, and disagree on a public forum. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 0:14]
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| Freefall on 00:15 - Nov 28 with 1415 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Freefall on 00:11 - Nov 28 by Hunterhoop |
I’m not scapegoating the lad. Stop posting boll*cks.
We were obviously awful. In my opinion, and there is the clue Sherlock, only Eze and Ball came out with any credit at all all. I agree that many players had shockers, including some that were awguall game. But I didn’t feel the need to post that, as it’s been said!
In my opinion too - are you getting the concept of a forum yet - Scowen was dreadful. Honestly, everyone I spoke to in the pub afterwards agreed and i’m astounded anyone sees it differently on here, hence my original posts. That’s why I posted; not because of any scapegoating. To push back against what I believe is absolutely terrible analysis. But there you go; you disagree.
By all means hold your opinion, but respect my right to think it’s boll*cks, and disagree on a public forum. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 0:14]
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Your opinion on Scowen is complete garbage. But please continue to spout it if it makes you feel happy. Eze was terrible tonight by the way. | | | |
| Freefall on 00:17 - Nov 28 with 1409 views | wombat |
| Freefall on 23:56 - Nov 27 by Hunterhoop |
And I completely disagree. There we go.
Remarkable.
I actually think we “got f*cked” because of Warburton tonight, but I do think Scowen was dreadful when he came on. Like he was dreadful at home to Brentford and Reading. But carry on picking on Eze.
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Who’s picking on Eze ? Your stating that Scowen is utter rubbish and the cause of everything wrong in the western world , I dare say that Eze has once again gone away on international duty and come back a poorer version of the player he was before he went and I’m wrong . Feck me mate not keen on anyone questioning one of you obvioUs fav players , Fulham away Eze got hard treatment first half , second ha,f couldn’t be arsed at all , don’t see you slagggin him off for that game Anywehre or did I miss those words of wisdom . Take it your going to derby sat ? | |
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| Freefall on 00:18 - Nov 28 with 1400 views | superhoopdownunder |
It was difficult once we went down to 10 men
Sending off was very harsh
The foul on Manning a minute later by Cash should have been a straight red.
It was then difficult as we were chasing the game with one less player and Forest were passing the ball around well.
Last 10 minutes was a disgrace.
My expectations were increased by the start of the season - now I would be happy if we can somehow avoid relegation.
This season is turning out like last season - although we have started our decline two months earlier than last season.
I want Warburton to sort it out - otherwise he'll soon be toast as well | | | |
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| Freefall on 00:21 - Nov 28 with 1372 views | Hunterhoop |
| Freefall on 00:15 - Nov 28 by Ned_Kennedys |
Your opinion on Scowen is complete garbage. But please continue to spout it if it makes you feel happy. Eze was terrible tonight by the way. |
We disagree. Great. | | | |
| Freefall on 00:27 - Nov 28 with 1357 views | Hunterhoop |
| Freefall on 00:17 - Nov 28 by wombat |
Who’s picking on Eze ? Your stating that Scowen is utter rubbish and the cause of everything wrong in the western world , I dare say that Eze has once again gone away on international duty and come back a poorer version of the player he was before he went and I’m wrong . Feck me mate not keen on anyone questioning one of you obvioUs fav players , Fulham away Eze got hard treatment first half , second ha,f couldn’t be arsed at all , don’t see you slagggin him off for that game Anywehre or did I miss those words of wisdom . Take it your going to derby sat ? |
Scowen and the western world? Wtf? I thought he was terrible tonight and think he’s been poor in other games recently. It’s a public forum. I’ve been on this forum for 30 years; when I logged on en route home, I couldn’t believe what I was reading so posted my opinion (that tends to be how forums work).
You disagree. Fine. But all this “were you there@ how-big-a-fan-are-you BS is pathetic. I’ve PM’d you already and you’re still posting along the same lines.
We disagree. We’re allowed to disagree. You think i’m spouting sh*t; I think you are wow. Opinions, eh. But this pathetic sh*t in your last post....Northern, Simmo, Neil...they may disagree it’s me but they can vouch for me, and you’re welcome to engage via PM, but stop with this BS about how much of a fan I am. | | | |
| Freefall on 00:30 - Nov 28 with 1356 views | stowmarketrange |
Just to cheer everyone up,our next home game is Preston. |  | | |
| Freefall on 00:33 - Nov 28 with 1351 views | wombat |
| Freefall on 00:27 - Nov 28 by Hunterhoop |
Scowen and the western world? Wtf? I thought he was terrible tonight and think he’s been poor in other games recently. It’s a public forum. I’ve been on this forum for 30 years; when I logged on en route home, I couldn’t believe what I was reading so posted my opinion (that tends to be how forums work).
You disagree. Fine. But all this “were you there@ how-big-a-fan-are-you BS is pathetic. I’ve PM’d you already and you’re still posting along the same lines.
We disagree. We’re allowed to disagree. You think i’m spouting sh*t; I think you are wow. Opinions, eh. But this pathetic sh*t in your last post....Northern, Simmo, Neil...they may disagree it’s me but they can vouch for me, and you’re welcome to engage via PM, but stop with this BS about how much of a fan I am. |
Just saw your pm actually and replied to it as well did you conduct a poll of peop,e you went up to in the pub and ask was Scowen shit tonight ?
How many people we talking about 5? 10? If we are quoting everyone maybe you can be clearer with actual figures on the amount of people you asked
Did the offer an alternate shitplayer as contrast ?
Right that’s me done with the most pointless argument of the night , | |
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| Freefall on 00:36 - Nov 28 with 1338 views | Hunterhoop |
| Freefall on 00:33 - Nov 28 by wombat |
Just saw your pm actually and replied to it as well did you conduct a poll of peop,e you went up to in the pub and ask was Scowen shit tonight ?
How many people we talking about 5? 10? If we are quoting everyone maybe you can be clearer with actual figures on the amount of people you asked
Did the offer an alternate shitplayer as contrast ?
Right that’s me done with the most pointless argument of the night , |
Jesus Christ, this is tiresome. 4 in the pub, 2 more in the ground. 6 from 6. 100%. Did I take a poll. F*ck off. And yes, we all thought lots of players were terrible. Duh. My post was in response to positive reviews of Scowen specifically, which I couldn’t believe. That’s why I posted. If we only posted when we agreed it would be bloody dull on here.
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| Freefall on 00:58 - Nov 28 with 1313 views | The_Seer |
Let's face it we only have about 3 decent players. The rest are pants. I'm not counting Hugill or Wells because they are not our players.
We not only have to sort out a new keeper, central defence and central midfield we will also have to buy a new strike force.
Enjoy Eze whilst you can.
Can't understand why we are paying for Amos and Smith both are too lightweight. What a waste of money.
If you are going to blame anyone blame Fernandes he put us in this mess. | | | |
| Freefall on 02:43 - Nov 28 with 1276 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Freefall on 23:06 - Nov 27 by stowmarketrange |
In 2 of those 10 games we scored more than the opposition and won.In 2 more we drew,so it’s only the 6 defeats. |
ONLY the 6 defeats you say. That is clutching at straws.
The simple fact is you can't concede 2+ every game and expect to win football matches because you're putting pressure on your forwards to score 3+ every match. That's simply unrealistic and is just not going to happen.
Good teams are built on solid foundations. MW needs to adopt a more pragmatic approach and make the team hard to beat first and foremost. As he develops the squad over the next few transfer windows he can slowly move to a more expansive style. |  | | |
| Freefall on 03:32 - Nov 28 with 1258 views | superhoopdownunder |
| Freefall on 02:43 - Nov 28 by Benny_the_Ball |
ONLY the 6 defeats you say. That is clutching at straws.
The simple fact is you can't concede 2+ every game and expect to win football matches because you're putting pressure on your forwards to score 3+ every match. That's simply unrealistic and is just not going to happen.
Good teams are built on solid foundations. MW needs to adopt a more pragmatic approach and make the team hard to beat first and foremost. As he develops the squad over the next few transfer windows he can slowly move to a more expansive style. |
I agree on your suggested approach
If we continue to concede at least 2 a game and keep losing Warburton won't be getting any transfer windows to sort out the obvious issues with goalkeeper, all of the defence (not just central defenders) and central midfield - where we are getting beaten every game now.
We are only 8 points above the relegation zone with our goal difference getting worse every week.
A number of the sides beneath us in the table have been improving too.
Our next games are:
Derby (away) - currently 14th in table
Preston (home) - 5th
Birmingham (away) - 15th
Barnsley (away) - 24th
Charlton (home) - 17th
Reading (away) - 18th
Hull (home) - 9th
Cardiff (home) - 11th
Let's hope we can turn the corner and get our mojo back before the January sales
U R's [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 5:26]
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| Freefall on 07:17 - Nov 28 with 1156 views | jonno |
None of this should be a surprise, quite frankly. It certainly isn't to me, I predicted that exactly this would happen back in October. You don't need to be a football "expert" to see when other teams have worked out how to play against what was an almost entirely new setup at the start of the season. This is not Sunday League football, it's a tough league and professional coaches will soon come up with ways to counter what you are doing. We need to continue supporting MW and the players and trust in them to find a way of picking up some points; obviously not conceding goals so easily has to be the first priority even if the football becomes a lot less pretty to watch for a while. |  | | |
| Freefall on 08:03 - Nov 28 with 1096 views | Rs_Holy |
| Freefall on 07:17 - Nov 28 by jonno |
None of this should be a surprise, quite frankly. It certainly isn't to me, I predicted that exactly this would happen back in October. You don't need to be a football "expert" to see when other teams have worked out how to play against what was an almost entirely new setup at the start of the season. This is not Sunday League football, it's a tough league and professional coaches will soon come up with ways to counter what you are doing. We need to continue supporting MW and the players and trust in them to find a way of picking up some points; obviously not conceding goals so easily has to be the first priority even if the football becomes a lot less pretty to watch for a while. |
wise words Jonno |  | | |
| Freefall on 08:23 - Nov 28 with 1038 views | Discodroids |
genuinely enjoyed this morning reading the Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine Duel between Hunterhoop and Wombat, over my Kippers on toast this morning here in Leigh On Sea.
Good to see a bit of emotion between two fans that Love their club to it's bone marrow and have quite rightly got the bollock ache with the Run we're on.
I'll take that anyday over logging onto LFW twice a week to read about Grant Halls shin splints or someone imparting Raoul Vaneigms therom on the overture to conformisim, and how the state of Raoul's itchy farmer giles pertain to the working class mans life in the 10 yards in front of his face.
I don't rate Scowen and wouldn't have him anywhere near the matchday squad, He reminds me a bit of Adam Boulder in terms of ability but has the testis of a Spartan.
Only watched it on Sky but i thought there was others a lot worse than scowen. I'd rather have Barry the ballroom dancer from Hi-di hi in midfield than Amos.
Feel Sorry for Lumley, he looks broken to me. Every goal that flys past him he picks the ball out the net head bowed and spine curled up, wanting to merge and vanish into the turf and ground like a whipped mutt at the feet of it's cruel Redneck Master. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 8:30]
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| Freefall on 08:37 - Nov 28 with 994 views | DejR_vu |
| Freefall on 07:17 - Nov 28 by jonno |
None of this should be a surprise, quite frankly. It certainly isn't to me, I predicted that exactly this would happen back in October. You don't need to be a football "expert" to see when other teams have worked out how to play against what was an almost entirely new setup at the start of the season. This is not Sunday League football, it's a tough league and professional coaches will soon come up with ways to counter what you are doing. We need to continue supporting MW and the players and trust in them to find a way of picking up some points; obviously not conceding goals so easily has to be the first priority even if the football becomes a lot less pretty to watch for a while. |
Agree with every word.
We have an entirely new squad, new manager and new way of playing. We were an unknown quantity at the beginning of the season, now we’ve been worked out. The good start has turned out to be a bit cruel.
We need to dig in and try to grind this out. We were poor last 10 last night but i didn't think we were that bad for the first 80, all things considered. We were good to start at Fulham. We need a break and to help ourselves with a bit of nouse. | |
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| Freefall on 08:50 - Nov 28 with 960 views | RblockPrior |
Scowen unfortunately is a lot of fans scapegoat, he could play for 2 minutes in a loss and still be blamed for the full 90. He in my opinion has been no where near as bad as some have made out. |  |
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| Freefall on 09:56 - Nov 28 with 873 views | ParkRoyalR |
| Freefall on 08:50 - Nov 28 by RblockPrior |
Scowen unfortunately is a lot of fans scapegoat, he could play for 2 minutes in a loss and still be blamed for the full 90. He in my opinion has been no where near as bad as some have made out. |
Scowen is just the latest scapegoat to deflect from our most glaring, though we have a few, problem........ Leinster is nowhere need a championship level centre half.
Has been worse than usual in recent weeks..... so those who support him jump on the message boards and immediately blame the CDM's (Cameron), the Wingbacks (Kane / Manning), the substitutes (Scowen) for nor protecting our achilles for the full 90 mins.
This is then reinforced by coincidentally always meeting people in the ground, on the way out and in the pub who completely agree when we win Leinstner is brilliant and the next Beckenbauer, and when we lose, it all those who dare to expose him to an attacking player.
Warburton knows what he needs. I'd like Leinstner to come good as is no doubt a good sort and would be a great next door neighbour, but imo, like Jan Malakar (hope to be proved wrong) is not able to play Championship football. | | | |
| Freefall on 10:10 - Nov 28 with 828 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Freefall on 08:23 - Nov 28 by Discodroids |
genuinely enjoyed this morning reading the Harvey Keitel and Keith Carradine Duel between Hunterhoop and Wombat, over my Kippers on toast this morning here in Leigh On Sea.
Good to see a bit of emotion between two fans that Love their club to it's bone marrow and have quite rightly got the bollock ache with the Run we're on.
I'll take that anyday over logging onto LFW twice a week to read about Grant Halls shin splints or someone imparting Raoul Vaneigms therom on the overture to conformisim, and how the state of Raoul's itchy farmer giles pertain to the working class mans life in the 10 yards in front of his face.
I don't rate Scowen and wouldn't have him anywhere near the matchday squad, He reminds me a bit of Adam Boulder in terms of ability but has the testis of a Spartan.
Only watched it on Sky but i thought there was others a lot worse than scowen. I'd rather have Barry the ballroom dancer from Hi-di hi in midfield than Amos.
Feel Sorry for Lumley, he looks broken to me. Every goal that flys past him he picks the ball out the net head bowed and spine curled up, wanting to merge and vanish into the turf and ground like a whipped mutt at the feet of it's cruel Redneck Master. [Post edited 28 Nov 2019 8:30]
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| Freefall on 10:14 - Nov 28 with 813 views | Stanisgod |
| Freefall on 21:50 - Nov 27 by traininvain |
Scowen’s pony. If he’s the solution then we’re well and truly fcuked! |
Sais Scowen would be booked within 5 minutes.
Can't help himself. |  |
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| Freefall on 10:20 - Nov 28 with 792 views | Stanisgod |
| Freefall on 00:15 - Nov 28 by Ned_Kennedys |
Your opinion on Scowen is complete garbage. But please continue to spout it if it makes you feel happy. Eze was terrible tonight by the way. |
Eze terrible!! Seriously. | |
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