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Derby into Admin 21:57 - Sep 17 with 161188 viewsTheRam

Fooking w@nkers.

Actually feel sorry for the fans
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Derby into Admin on 13:25 - Mar 3 with 5823 viewsMyke

Derby into Admin on 14:31 - Mar 2 by stowmarketrange

1 Fulham 69
2 Bournemouth 61
3 Huddersfield 55
4 Blackburn 54
5 QPR 53
6 Luton 50
6 Sheff Utd 50
6 Coventry 50
9 Middlesbrough 48
10 Forest 47
11 Preston 46
12 Millwall 45
12 WBA 45
12 Blackpool 45
15 Stoke 44
16 Swansea 40
17 Bristol C 37
17 Hull 37
19 Cardiff 36
20 Birmingham 33
21 Reading 28
22 Barnsley 22
23 Peterborough 18
The table if Derby’s results are expunged.I couldn’t be bothered to sort out the GD so I’ve put teams equal place if the points are the same.The big losers are Middlesbrough who drop a few places.


Would that mean that Grey's greatest goal since the beginning of the universe (Sky) would also be expunged?
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Derby into Admin on 14:32 - Mar 3 with 5658 viewsstowmarketrange

Derby into Admin on 13:25 - Mar 3 by Myke

Would that mean that Grey's greatest goal since the beginning of the universe (Sky) would also be expunged?


I don’t know whether it would still be included in the goal of the season competition,but he was the only player booked on the night so that might be scrubbed too.
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Derby into Admin on 18:16 - Mar 3 with 5481 viewsKensal_Ranger

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60600805
Is a 'forecast' now the same as 'proof of funding'?
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Derby into Admin on 18:26 - Mar 3 with 5444 viewsRangersw12

Not Derby related but how have Stoke not got a points deduction

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Derby into Admin on 20:24 - Mar 3 with 5263 viewsSimonD

Derby into Admin on 18:26 - Mar 3 by Rangersw12

Not Derby related but how have Stoke not got a points deduction



There are a few considerations here.

The holding company's financial year does not end in the close season so they will have to supply the EFL an adjusted set of accounts to cover the right period, so those losses won't be the correct ones for FFP.

Stoke City FC's accounts to May 2020 which do cover an acceptable period show a loss of £88m. However they also detail £38m of Covid costs which get deducted from that: £4m lost revenue, £4m costs and £30m impairment. They have argued that the collapse of the transfer market due to Covid-19 has forced them to reduce the book value of their squad by that amount and claimed it as a Covid cost.

It is also worth remembering that when their May 2021 accounts are released it is the average of the two years which will be used in their P&S calculation. With 2020 & 2021 counting as one year, the other two years are obviously 2019 and 2018. Stoke were in the Premier League for the season ending in 2018 and so are allowed a loss of £35m that season.

Maybe, after allowing for their standard disallowable costs they will squeeze through. if they do they will have to change something pretty drastically to get through the next financial year without breaching FFP.
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Derby into Admin on 20:58 - Mar 3 with 5158 viewsTramoreRanger

Hey Simon, how's tricks? Haven't been over for a game for years and doesn't look like I'll get over any time soon, except for maybe the Play Off Final :-) If not will try for next season and get a ticket along side you, Graham and Beth in the back row, at least no knee cap problems....

Re you comment about Stokes figures that doesn't make a lot of sense is about the covid write off of book value with the collapse of the transfer market....... That to me looks like another loop hole and is not that dis-similar to Derby re-writing the amortisisation of the player values on imaginary transfer values, except Stoke have gone downwards whereas Derby if memory serves me correct went upwards........ That's really no more than an exceptional item of expensditure that is not quantifiable with any known facts, somebody has just effectively made it up.......

Am I reading and understanding that correctly? Mind as it's nearing 9pm I'm probably reading it all wrong.

Keep well mate.....

Chris
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Derby into Admin on 22:07 - Mar 3 with 5009 viewsSimonD

I wouldn't disagree with anything that you've said Chris.

Stoke have taken the unusual (in my experience) step of including this information in their accounts; there is no requirement to do so. They believe, well claim, that the amounts are non-speculative and produced in accordance with the guidance provided by the EFL. However, it wouldn't be a surprise to see this adjudicated on by Sports Resolutions at some point in the future.
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Derby into Admin on 09:32 - Mar 12 with 4517 viewstoboboly

Derby buyer pulls out having offered £30m. Surely the league need to be saying they have to take whatever they are offered? Clearly Morris wats his money back but we all know Pride Park isn't worth £10m let alone £80m.

Interesting that they expect another hefty points deduction next season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60694665

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60695605

Sexy Asian dwarves wanted.

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Derby into Admin on 09:43 - Mar 12 with 4473 viewsstowmarketrange

Derby into Admin on 09:32 - Mar 12 by toboboly

Derby buyer pulls out having offered £30m. Surely the league need to be saying they have to take whatever they are offered? Clearly Morris wats his money back but we all know Pride Park isn't worth £10m let alone £80m.

Interesting that they expect another hefty points deduction next season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60694665

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60695605


That’s a bit of a drop in price for the stadium them.Morris bought it for £80 million,but the administrator is now looking at getting £20 million for it.
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Derby into Admin on 09:49 - Mar 12 with 4436 viewsRangersDave

Thought the stadium wasnt owned by the club?

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Derby into Admin on 10:03 - Mar 12 with 4361 viewsterryb

Derby into Admin on 09:49 - Mar 12 by RangersDave

Thought the stadium wasnt owned by the club?


It's not, but as the administrators are the auditors for all of Morris's companies they may know a way round this problem! It would be a hefty loss in the accounts of the company that own Pride Park though.

If DCFC do enter liquidation, Quantuma will have to bear a lot of the responsibility & have a lot of explaining to do.
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Derby into Admin on 10:25 - Mar 12 with 4284 viewsRangersDave

cheers mate,

Can they force the sale of the ground though?

And anyway, on Monday it will be the start of the 3rd week of the unsanctioned (we believe) further extension.

Surely the EFL has to pull the plug soon, or it could get messy down the bottom of the league ala Wycombe. it is beyond a joke.

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Derby into Admin on 10:38 - Mar 12 with 4258 viewsloftboy

Derby into Admin on 09:32 - Mar 12 by toboboly

Derby buyer pulls out having offered £30m. Surely the league need to be saying they have to take whatever they are offered? Clearly Morris wats his money back but we all know Pride Park isn't worth £10m let alone £80m.

Interesting that they expect another hefty points deduction next season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60694665

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60695605


30 million only pays off HMRC, surely after going to court to get preferential status they will dig their heels in on the first big case that has come up otherwise they leave themselves wide open for others to do the same, surely £50 million must be the minimum they can accept, not going to happen, reckon they will be an AFC by the summer.

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Derby into Admin on 10:46 - Mar 12 with 4236 viewsterryb

Derby into Admin on 10:25 - Mar 12 by RangersDave

cheers mate,

Can they force the sale of the ground though?

And anyway, on Monday it will be the start of the 3rd week of the unsanctioned (we believe) further extension.

Surely the EFL has to pull the plug soon, or it could get messy down the bottom of the league ala Wycombe. it is beyond a joke.


I suspect that the EFL will do all that it can to avoid having to take any action until all matches are completed this season (not including the playoffs).

That is far easier to administer than removing Derby from the league & voiding all of their results. The bottom the league is fairly clear, but expunging the results could have major repercussions at the top of the table. Leaving DCFC floating about for another two months is the best option IMO.

Of course, if they do escape liquidation, they are almost certain to start next season with a points deduction for failing to leave administration on time.
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Derby into Admin on 10:54 - Mar 12 with 4194 viewsstowmarketrange

Derby into Admin on 10:46 - Mar 12 by terryb

I suspect that the EFL will do all that it can to avoid having to take any action until all matches are completed this season (not including the playoffs).

That is far easier to administer than removing Derby from the league & voiding all of their results. The bottom the league is fairly clear, but expunging the results could have major repercussions at the top of the table. Leaving DCFC floating about for another two months is the best option IMO.

Of course, if they do escape liquidation, they are almost certain to start next season with a points deduction for failing to leave administration on time.


I did an updated table without Derby’s results on it last week,and the big losers are Blackburn and Middlesbrough at the top end of the league as they’ve gained 4 points from results against them.We lose 3 too,but nobody had managed to do the double over them yet,which is quite incredible really with the squad they have.
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Derby into Admin on 10:56 - Mar 12 with 4182 viewsthemodfather

clubs never pay the full amount to HMRC and that is shameful cos they took the money, splashed it and didn't pay the tax at the time.
warnock was very unhappy with the admin team at palace, are they there for the club? fans? themselves and the media attention? or the creditors?
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Derby into Admin on 11:00 - Mar 12 with 4171 viewsOldPedro

Derby into Admin on 09:43 - Mar 12 by stowmarketrange

That’s a bit of a drop in price for the stadium them.Morris bought it for £80 million,but the administrator is now looking at getting £20 million for it.


Shows yet again that the valuation of the stadium when Morris bought it from the club was complete boll ocks

Extra mature cheddar......a simple cheese for a simple man

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Derby into Admin on 09:00 - Mar 13 with 3853 viewstoboboly

They have managed to sell an injured and rubbish player for £2m

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60672100

Sexy Asian dwarves wanted.

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Derby into Admin on 10:22 - Mar 13 with 3727 viewsCamberleyR

Derby into Admin on 09:00 - Mar 13 by toboboly

They have managed to sell an injured and rubbish player for £2m

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60672100


He makes Conor Washington look prolific.

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Derby into Admin on 11:25 - Mar 13 with 3614 viewsterryb

Derby into Admin on 10:22 - Mar 13 by CamberleyR

He makes Conor Washington look prolific.


Washington averages one goal in every three games in Division One.

Certainly not a Championship player, but more than decent at one level below.
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Derby into Admin on 11:42 - Mar 13 with 3583 viewsQPR_Jim

Derby into Admin on 09:00 - Mar 13 by toboboly

They have managed to sell an injured and rubbish player for £2m

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60672100


Probably linked to a takeover. They'll probably get new owners, same people who own this American club, then sell them a load of deadwood at over market price and become "sustainable" again.
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Derby into Admin on 21:39 - Mar 14 with 3194 viewsTramoreRanger

Latest developments at Stoke...... Ground sold for £70.25m to Bet365 parent company, 1 month before EFL changed the rules regarding ground sales.....

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-financia

Property in Stoke almost as expensive as in Derby.......
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Derby into Admin on 09:09 - Mar 16 with 2738 viewstoboboly

Some interesting talk on Derby's tax liabilities, also a quick bit about QPR owing £2.2m to the tax man in the latest accounts (around 30 mins in).

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-price-of-football/id1482886394?i=10005

Sexy Asian dwarves wanted.

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Derby into Admin on 13:39 - Mar 16 with 2409 viewsTerry49

If the Derby results are kind to us we might just be the team who beats them on Easter Monday and seals their relegation. That would add to the population of Derby hating us even more.
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Derby into Admin on 15:09 - Mar 16 with 2217 viewsLanhoop

Derby into Admin on 09:00 - Mar 13 by toboboly

They have managed to sell an injured and rubbish player for £2m

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60672100


Seems that Derby have only paid Lech Poznan 25% of the original transfer fee. So they get £2m in but still owe £2.5m to them with a payment that was due in February still not paid.

There's the right way to run a football club and then there is the DCFC way.
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