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I thought Zamora was excellent yesterday and Vargas offered something a bit different. We had a clear game plan yesterday that was based around getting the ball to Zamora and then working off him. It worked really well. The problem with this though I think you need a player with pace and movement to play of him if this is the way we look to claw our way back into form and results. I really rate Austin but the problem is he is neither a target man or a run of the last defender striker. He is a goal poacher in the box. The thing is we aren't playing to his strengths at the moment. He played ok yesterday but I felt at times the game passed him by a bit. Vargas has the speed, movement and it would appear he is a goal poacher as well. I am a big fan of Austin but maybe for a couple of weeks now (and Zamora's fitness allowing) maybe we should try Zamora and Vargas together. I think Zamora's link up play and hold up play would be complimented by Vargas's movement and pace. When Zamora needs to come off we bring a fresh Austin on to bully and smash into tired defenders. He might also get himself a few goals and get his confidence up. He seems to be taking to long to do things at the moment and getting caught out. Maybe this is a confidence thing. Maybe the pressure of being our main striker is getting to him and he needs a bit of building up again. One thing I have noticed as well, is that Austin seems slower. I don't know if this is just the speed of premiership players or not. On his goals highlights video, (especially) before he joined us he seemed to run away from defenders or at least when he got in front they didn't get the ball back. Anyone else think this? Maybe he has bulked up a bit to protect his shoulder? I notice he still wears strapping for it. This is no way me slating him or writing him off. I am just thinking what is best for the team and him at the moment. I really believe a full firing Austin and a team playing to his strengths will be a benefit to us, just maybe he needs to be taken out of the firing line for a bit
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Who plays up front? on 10:47 - Oct 20 with 2420 views
Can understand your point, but I think it's best to stick with Charlie and Zamora up front for as long as Bobby deems us worthy to play well for before tailing off again. However, Redknapp should be more proactive and take Zamora off after around the hour mark. The guy played a blinder for us but was dead on his feet by that point. Saw Arry had Vargas ready to come on on 70mins, only to get him to put his bib back on and umm and ah about it for the next 7-odd mins. Look at the impetus he gave us when he came on, fresh legs and should've had a hattrick. Basically, even if Zamora's had a good game, take him off before 70mins as it's well documented he can't last. All 3 played well yesterday, I'm so glad I can say that
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Who plays up front? on 10:48 - Oct 20 with 2418 views
Pick and choose the right games for Zamora, i wouldn't play him at chelsea as he won't be able to bully Terry and Cahill but against Villa he could cause problems.
Austin was very good again yesterday, i wouldn't be dropping him
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Who plays up front? on 11:03 - Oct 20 with 2375 views
Vargas seems to be a real goal threat. I honestly think he needs to play centrally. He has something that none of our other forwards have. Pace and the ability to go past people. I just think a sharp and fit Charlie coming off the bench for the next few weeks after Bobby has battered the defenders will help build his confidence
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Who plays up front? on 11:13 - Oct 20 with 2352 views
Pick and choose the right games for Zamora, i wouldn't play him at chelsea as he won't be able to bully Terry and Cahill but against Villa he could cause problems.
Austin was very good again yesterday, i wouldn't be dropping him
Even if Austin played sh*t who are we gonna drop him for ? yes Zamora played well and vargas is good behind the front 2 , But why oh why did we not buy another striker with pace who can work the channels, Zamora gave it everything yesterday but he is shot as a Premier League Footballer Austin went missing when Zamora Tired and that's been our Problem all season, a massive fcuk up by the club relying on Remy to stay , this partially why we are in the sh*t this year , not getting in another striker
And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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Who plays up front? on 11:39 - Oct 20 with 2299 views
It's all about scoring goals.If you're happy with Zamora bumbling about with back to goal then fine.A proper world class striker comes on and gets a brace - could have been a hat trick and you want sentimentality instead of ability? Do me a favour.
It's all about scoring goals.If you're happy with Zamora bumbling about with back to goal then fine.A proper world class striker comes on and gets a brace - could have been a hat trick and you want sentimentality instead of ability? Do me a favour.
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Vargas and Austin haven't exactly flourished as a pair so far though? Our best performance was on Sunday, and that was with a strong, bullish striker holding up play rather than two forwards chasing off long balls.
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Who plays up front? on 11:47 - Oct 20 with 2274 views
Gotta say while Bobby made a real difference yesterday, leaving it so late to bring on Vargas when Bobby couldn't walk was back to the season before last where we had Bothroyd and Mackie on the bench ready to give us 20 mins and Redknapp believed Zamora on one leg was better than both. For the last 10-15 mins on the pitch we were carrying Bobby and he had to come off. I think Vargas was so emotional after the goal, because he was standing there thinking 'do you really think I can't give more than a guy hobbling about and reduced to walking pace?' I'm not sure what Harry thought Bobby would give us at the end there.
And as for saying Vargas and Austin haven't clicked yet. Jesus Christ, give them a chance!
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Who plays up front? on 12:02 - Oct 20 with 2221 views
Zamora was a real handful for the Liverpool defense. I've been saying that we should start him rather then bring him on the last 20 when we're already chasing a game and yesterday showed its the right tactic.He brings other players into the game and puts the opposition on the back foot early in the game instead of us. Vargas is a live wire and a goal scorer . I would start those 2 then have Charlie on the final half hour,20 min. I don't know what Zamoras fitness is like at the moment so i don't know if we should or shouldn't play him every game. I just feel you've got to play your best players whenever you can.
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Who plays up front? on 12:12 - Oct 20 with 2189 views
Yes Zamora may not be a a goal threat on his own but it is what he offers for others. Players playing around him. At the moment we need to get the ball in the last third and make it stick. With what we have at the moment against prem defenders Zamora is the best option. He can't last 90 minutes but we all know that. He won't be able to play every game. The thing is we are not getting behind full backs and slinging in crosses for Austin so we need to play it tight, get the ball to a focal point and build from there. Maybe once we have one a few more games and got some more confidence we can change things up.
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Who plays up front? on 12:14 - Oct 20 with 2175 views
With Onuoha going off at half time and Phillips a non-combatant the second half looked so much harder for us, we just couldn't keep it tight enough and Liverpool did look more dangerous as a result. Then Sandro conked out so we only had one sub left and if somebody else had got a knock then we'd have been playing with 10 if Bobby had gone off, but we only had 10 already as Phillips was a (barely) walking disaster. So when to take off Bobby was a difficult one. In an ideal world Vargas would have come on for Onuoha and been asked to track back to help his fellow-countryman. Then maybe Bobby could eventually have been replaced by Hoilett and the whole thing might possibly have worked out different. Onuoha going off and being replaced by Phillips was the turning point for me. But as for the future, we need at least 10 on the park who should last 90 minutes, so that probably means that Sandro and Bobby can't both start. Depends on the opposition but at the moment Bobby looks a better bet than Sandro as regards fitness. So I'd play the three at the back, same wing backs as yesterday, with a midfield three of Henry, Mutch (Fer) and Vargas on the right. So I'd play them all.
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Who plays up front? on 12:31 - Oct 20 with 2141 views
i respect your views gents, and can see where youre coming from, however i dont know of any other premier league squad in the country that can afford the luxury of a player who cannot last an hour effectively in the much underated non scoring striker role.perhaps drogba?.
it may well be we can afford a half fit player and the squad is a lot stronger than i give it credit for.
if , after 2 years in charge , the sum of all harolds parts is to have an axis of richard dunne/'rio', karl henry spearheaded by tallisman totem pole , grey friars bobby, then i must congratulate him on a magnificent job.
i expect european dominiation , not seen since my last bosses visit to the captains wheel and a session with a fem dom in a ukranian brass house, toot sweet.
worst result possible yesterday i thought, a plucky underdog showing and a second half ending in the benny hill theme tune , And harolds status as a demi god secured for a few more weeks into the season when it will all be too late.
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Who plays up front? on 12:32 - Oct 20 with 2137 views
Vargas has to start against villa. senderos, vlaar, baker are old school types and we need movement to cause them problems. I would even consider playing all 3 with Vargas in behind if sandro is fit. I thought Henry and sandro dominated the liverpool midfield whilst sandro was on the pitch.
We need to maximise our strengths and for an hour we were excellent so if we approach the same and actually take our chances then replace Zamora after an hour for another midfielder.
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Who plays up front? on 12:38 - Oct 20 with 2112 views
Vargas and Austin haven't exactly flourished as a pair so far though? Our best performance was on Sunday, and that was with a strong, bullish striker holding up play rather than two forwards chasing off long balls.
Which game were you watching?How many goals did we score with the "bullish " partnership ffs?
Who plays up front? (n/t) on 15:39 - Oct 20 by TheBlob
Which game were you watching?How many goals did we score with the "bullish " partnership ffs?
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If Zamora is fit to start next game then it has to be him and Vargas.
Vargas has scored 4 goals in his last 110 minutes on a football pitch - course he has to start.
I watched the game on TV last night after I got back and Zamora was virtually unplayable in the first half. I knew he was doing well live, but hadn't realised he set up both of Fer's cross bar efforts.
Austin hasn't done a great deal wrong, but he's not showing Vargas/Bobby form so he can come off the bench.
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Who plays up front? (n/t) on 15:46 - Oct 20 by ingeminate
If Zamora is fit to start next game then it has to be him and Vargas.
Vargas has scored 4 goals in his last 110 minutes on a football pitch - course he has to start.
I watched the game on TV last night after I got back and Zamora was virtually unplayable in the first half. I knew he was doing well live, but hadn't realised he set up both of Fer's cross bar efforts.
Austin hasn't done a great deal wrong, but he's not showing Vargas/Bobby form so he can come off the bench.
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