| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 10:59 - Nov 19 with 2018 views | saintwizzler |
When Sport Republic took over Southampton FC were 14th in The Premier League.
Today they are 17th in The Championship.
Mistake after mistake has caused this.
Awful managerial appointments.
Awful recruitment of players.
Selling off of the best players.
Will they ever learn from their mistakes?
Time will tell.
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 12:15 - Nov 19 with 1939 views | franniesTache |
Five point plan?
So do this mean we've finally got THE FIVE PLEDGES? |  | | |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 12:40 - Nov 19 with 1905 views | PatfromPoole |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 12:15 - Nov 19 by franniesTache |
Five point plan?
So do this mean we've finally got THE FIVE PLEDGES? |
Did none of the 5 pledges ever see the light of day?? |  |
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 13:30 - Nov 19 with 1831 views | Southamptonfan |
They are walking on very thin ice, and we are a defeat away from a very toxic St Mary's.
Re. The 5 point plan. They have had years to appoint an experienced manager. They could do it now, but are desperate not to. They just don't get it and never will. Had they learned that Will Still was a mistake, Selles, Jones and the rest, they wouldn't be giving the very young and inexperienced Tonda three more games. They hope he gets the wins so that they can appoint cheap, and young again. They are NOT learning and never will on the manager.
As for the other points, Ralph asked for a striker and didnt get one when Ings and Broja left. We needed an experienced striker in the summer, (so they didn't learn from the year Ralph was here) there were so many available (Mcburnie, Sargent, Keiffer Moore). They keep buying young players in key positions to make a profit, not for the benefit of the team. This isn't going to change. Same with the goalkeepers. They brought in Ramsdale as if to say that Mccarthy and Bazunu weren't up to standard. Then they bring back Mccarthy this season, only to drop him again for Bazunu. It's an absolute circus. They arn't learning are they.
So basically they never learn, so why would I have any faith they will get it right the 10th time of asking? The failed goalkeepers have been swapped that many times..
Sport Republic OUT. Get games abandoned, cause chaos and make life really difficult until they get the message we want them out. Ultimately, winning games is the only way to get the fans onside, and I hope we do, but we will start losing again - such is my lack of confidence in the club and team at the moment, despite our two recent wins, which were basically performances of huge relief that Still had been sacked.
"Good owners doing badly" doesn't make any sense to me. If they were good owners, the team wouldn't keep being so bad! And even if there are worse owners, I don't care. I don't want to be languishing around in the championship for years, just because Sheffield Wednesday's owners are worse. Let's take the risk and get on good owners, which to me means that my clib is back where it belongs and that's in the top of the PL, and competing to win cups. [Post edited 19 Nov 13:48]
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 14:20 - Nov 19 with 1758 views | franniesTache |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 12:40 - Nov 19 by PatfromPoole |
Did none of the 5 pledges ever see the light of day?? |
Sadly not, which is the underlying reason for our downfall. Had we had THE FIVE PLEDGES we would be champions league by now | | | |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 16:47 - Nov 19 with 1620 views | SaintNick |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 13:30 - Nov 19 by Southamptonfan |
They are walking on very thin ice, and we are a defeat away from a very toxic St Mary's.
Re. The 5 point plan. They have had years to appoint an experienced manager. They could do it now, but are desperate not to. They just don't get it and never will. Had they learned that Will Still was a mistake, Selles, Jones and the rest, they wouldn't be giving the very young and inexperienced Tonda three more games. They hope he gets the wins so that they can appoint cheap, and young again. They are NOT learning and never will on the manager.
As for the other points, Ralph asked for a striker and didnt get one when Ings and Broja left. We needed an experienced striker in the summer, (so they didn't learn from the year Ralph was here) there were so many available (Mcburnie, Sargent, Keiffer Moore). They keep buying young players in key positions to make a profit, not for the benefit of the team. This isn't going to change. Same with the goalkeepers. They brought in Ramsdale as if to say that Mccarthy and Bazunu weren't up to standard. Then they bring back Mccarthy this season, only to drop him again for Bazunu. It's an absolute circus. They arn't learning are they.
So basically they never learn, so why would I have any faith they will get it right the 10th time of asking? The failed goalkeepers have been swapped that many times..
Sport Republic OUT. Get games abandoned, cause chaos and make life really difficult until they get the message we want them out. Ultimately, winning games is the only way to get the fans onside, and I hope we do, but we will start losing again - such is my lack of confidence in the club and team at the moment, despite our two recent wins, which were basically performances of huge relief that Still had been sacked.
"Good owners doing badly" doesn't make any sense to me. If they were good owners, the team wouldn't keep being so bad! And even if there are worse owners, I don't care. I don't want to be languishing around in the championship for years, just because Sheffield Wednesday's owners are worse. Let's take the risk and get on good owners, which to me means that my clib is back where it belongs and that's in the top of the PL, and competing to win cups. [Post edited 19 Nov 13:48]
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Being a good owner is no guarantee of success, for year Stoke City's owners were seen as good owners, local people with untold riches but eventually they failed, likewise the Brighton owner.
The League is full of good owners of well run football clubs who underperform, Liverpool for example for about a decade after Fenway Sports took over.
It is also full of clubs with bad owners who do badly, look at Portsmouth who won the FA cup in 2008 and reached the final again in 2010 with an owner who just stopped funding them and they nearly went bust and been in freefall since then up to the last two seasons,
Just where are we going to get the "Good Owner" from, they all claim to be good owners , you say Southampton belong in the PL, but do we more than a host of other clubs in the Championship
Coventry, Middlesbrough, Stoke City, Ipswich Town, Derby County, Birmingham City, Leicester City, West Bromwich Albion, Sheffield United & Wednesday, thats 9 clubs who would claim to be bigger than us and who have won more than us in their histories and I havent included the likes of Blackburn & Pompey.
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 16:53 - Nov 19 with 1602 views | saintwizzler |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 16:47 - Nov 19 by SaintNick |
Being a good owner is no guarantee of success, for year Stoke City's owners were seen as good owners, local people with untold riches but eventually they failed, likewise the Brighton owner.
The League is full of good owners of well run football clubs who underperform, Liverpool for example for about a decade after Fenway Sports took over.
It is also full of clubs with bad owners who do badly, look at Portsmouth who won the FA cup in 2008 and reached the final again in 2010 with an owner who just stopped funding them and they nearly went bust and been in freefall since then up to the last two seasons,
Just where are we going to get the "Good Owner" from, they all claim to be good owners , you say Southampton belong in the PL, but do we more than a host of other clubs in the Championship
Coventry, Middlesbrough, Stoke City, Ipswich Town, Derby County, Birmingham City, Leicester City, West Bromwich Albion, Sheffield United & Wednesday, thats 9 clubs who would claim to be bigger than us and who have won more than us in their histories and I havent included the likes of Blackburn & Pompey.
We need to get a dose of reality, good owners do not grow on trees, bad ones are plentiful |
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:13 - Nov 19 with 1564 views | Southamptonfan |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 16:47 - Nov 19 by SaintNick |
Being a good owner is no guarantee of success, for year Stoke City's owners were seen as good owners, local people with untold riches but eventually they failed, likewise the Brighton owner.
The League is full of good owners of well run football clubs who underperform, Liverpool for example for about a decade after Fenway Sports took over.
It is also full of clubs with bad owners who do badly, look at Portsmouth who won the FA cup in 2008 and reached the final again in 2010 with an owner who just stopped funding them and they nearly went bust and been in freefall since then up to the last two seasons,
Just where are we going to get the "Good Owner" from, they all claim to be good owners , you say Southampton belong in the PL, but do we more than a host of other clubs in the Championship
Coventry, Middlesbrough, Stoke City, Ipswich Town, Derby County, Birmingham City, Leicester City, West Bromwich Albion, Sheffield United & Wednesday, thats 9 clubs who would claim to be bigger than us and who have won more than us in their histories and I havent included the likes of Blackburn & Pompey.
We need to get a dose of reality, good owners do not grow on trees, bad ones are plentiful |
Not sure what you are saying here to be honest. The Brighton and Liverpool owners own clubs doing well in the PL? Liverpool won the Premier league last year andcwon various cups when their owners took over. They didnt get relegated twice? That's not underperforming. Brighton haven't had two relegations in three years have they? They still beat top sides in the PL regularly. Bournemouth, Palace, Brentford just off the top of my head are doing brilliantly, all "smaller" clubs with smaller stadiums with only very recent success and there is no reason why we couldn't do the same.
The reality is little Bournemouth, who used to be our lower league neighbours, are now flying high in the top 5 of the top league, with a capacity a third of the size of St Mary's. That's the reality that shouldn't be.
I really don't understand how you think that the worst record in europe (4 wins in 49 games), two relegations in three, 8 different managers, mostly dreadful recruitment and so many other c@ck ups doesn't equal terrible leadership.
There is no such thing as "being a good owner is no guarantee of success". A good owner runs a successful club, witj a team that wins. A bad owner runs a club that gets relegated over and over and rarely wins. If your club isn't successful, is constantly relegated, how can they be good? A good chef doesn't constantly cook really disgusting food do they? If the food is disgusting, the chef is bad, they can't be good! A good chef cooks great food!. A good owner runs a successful club, with a successful team on the pitch. They can't be good if the clubs a failure.
You are basically saying just put up with this, because there is no point trying to aim for better like a Palace, a Brentford, a Bournemouth, a Newcastle even. Are you saying Southampton shouldn't aim for the best, aim for the stars, aim to win cups like Palace did (a club with a smaller stadium and revenue? Just accept struggling in the championship because that's reality)? I am not sure what your point is.
The reality is, appoint an experienced manager, buy a decent striker and we get back to the PL. If we continue with the SR experiments, we lose the parachute payments and end up like Reading. [Post edited 19 Nov 17:29]
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:33 - Nov 19 with 1522 views | SaintNick |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:13 - Nov 19 by Southamptonfan |
Not sure what you are saying here to be honest. The Brighton and Liverpool owners own clubs doing well in the PL? Liverpool won the Premier league last year andcwon various cups when their owners took over. They didnt get relegated twice? That's not underperforming. Brighton haven't had two relegations in three years have they? They still beat top sides in the PL regularly. Bournemouth, Palace, Brentford just off the top of my head are doing brilliantly, all "smaller" clubs with smaller stadiums with only very recent success and there is no reason why we couldn't do the same.
The reality is little Bournemouth, who used to be our lower league neighbours, are now flying high in the top 5 of the top league, with a capacity a third of the size of St Mary's. That's the reality that shouldn't be.
I really don't understand how you think that the worst record in europe (4 wins in 49 games), two relegations in three, 8 different managers, mostly dreadful recruitment and so many other c@ck ups doesn't equal terrible leadership.
There is no such thing as "being a good owner is no guarantee of success". A good owner runs a successful club, witj a team that wins. A bad owner runs a club that gets relegated over and over and rarely wins. If your club isn't successful, is constantly relegated, how can they be good? A good chef doesn't constantly cook really disgusting food do they? If the food is disgusting, the chef is bad, they can't be good! A good chef cooks great food!. A good owner runs a successful club, with a successful team on the pitch. They can't be good if the clubs a failure.
You are basically saying just put up with this, because there is no point trying to aim for better like a Palace, a Brentford, a Bournemouth, a Newcastle even. Are you saying Southampton shouldn't aim for the best, aim for the stars, aim to win cups like Palace did (a club with a smaller stadium and revenue? Just accept struggling in the championship because that's reality)? I am not sure what your point is.
The reality is, appoint an experienced manager, buy a decent striker and we get back to the PL. If we continue with the SR experiments, we lose the parachute payments and end up like Reading. [Post edited 19 Nov 17:29]
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As I said being a good owner is no guarantee of success, Liverpool have won the Premier League twice that is twice in 15 years of ownership, does that make them bad owners, Man City have won it god knows how many times in that period and have a lot of charges hanging over their head for underhand dealing etc, does that make them good owners ?
Success is relative, how long will Brighton Brentford & Bournemouth be able to maintain their mid table positions ? if they get relegated will that make them good or bad owners, certainly by your definition not good ones as they are not winning anything
"The reality is, appoint an experienced manager, buy a decent striker and we get back to the PL."
That is no guarantee of anything, w e have one of the best strikers in the Championship already, the Championship is full of experienced managers , it would be more full if half of them hadn't already been sacked.
The reality is there is no magic formula it is just pot luck, good owners appoint bad managers and bad owners appoint good ones. | |
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:58 - Nov 19 with 1490 views | felly1 |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:33 - Nov 19 by SaintNick |
As I said being a good owner is no guarantee of success, Liverpool have won the Premier League twice that is twice in 15 years of ownership, does that make them bad owners, Man City have won it god knows how many times in that period and have a lot of charges hanging over their head for underhand dealing etc, does that make them good owners ?
Success is relative, how long will Brighton Brentford & Bournemouth be able to maintain their mid table positions ? if they get relegated will that make them good or bad owners, certainly by your definition not good ones as they are not winning anything
"The reality is, appoint an experienced manager, buy a decent striker and we get back to the PL."
That is no guarantee of anything, w e have one of the best strikers in the Championship already, the Championship is full of experienced managers , it would be more full if half of them hadn't already been sacked.
The reality is there is no magic formula it is just pot luck, good owners appoint bad managers and bad owners appoint good ones. |
Your right Nick , good luck is a huge part of it including getting results.
The issue is these clowns ruining our club have either had the worst run of bad luck in football history or they are culpable of making consistently bad decisions over and over again. | | | |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 18:02 - Nov 19 with 1489 views | Southamptonfan |
| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 17:33 - Nov 19 by SaintNick |
As I said being a good owner is no guarantee of success, Liverpool have won the Premier League twice that is twice in 15 years of ownership, does that make them bad owners, Man City have won it god knows how many times in that period and have a lot of charges hanging over their head for underhand dealing etc, does that make them good owners ?
Success is relative, how long will Brighton Brentford & Bournemouth be able to maintain their mid table positions ? if they get relegated will that make them good or bad owners, certainly by your definition not good ones as they are not winning anything
"The reality is, appoint an experienced manager, buy a decent striker and we get back to the PL."
That is no guarantee of anything, w e have one of the best strikers in the Championship already, the Championship is full of experienced managers , it would be more full if half of them hadn't already been sacked.
The reality is there is no magic formula it is just pot luck, good owners appoint bad managers and bad owners appoint good ones. |
Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford haven't been relegated for many successive seasons, so they have good owners for the size of those clubs. They appoint good managers pretty much seamlessly. They recruit well to replace the excellent players they lose. They are well run clubs. There is no point saying "if they get relegated". They haven't been because they are well run. I.e. they get the manager appointment right and they recruit good players. Liverpool and Man City are clearly well run for the size they are, as they have won lots of trophies. Man U are probably not well run, but they haven't been relegated.
Saints on the other hand have been relegated twice in three years and appoint lots of dud managers, and recruit a lot of terrible players. So we are badly run. IF we appointed good managers and recruited good players we would be well run right? But we don't! [Post edited 19 Nov 18:08]
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 18:58 - Nov 19 with 1434 views | saintwizzler |
It’s not bad luck constantly employing bad managers.
Sport Republic need to break the bank and get Brendan Rodgers or Steve Cooper in.
Fanning around with ‘wacky’ appointments trying to be clever has not worked.
Southampton were 14th in Tier 1 when this lot bought the club.
Southampton are now 17th in Tier 2 with an absolute shitshow of a season last season.
Parsons says Southampton FC cannot compete in The PL so what hope is there?
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| Daily Echo 5 Point Plan For Sports Republic To Restore The Fan Faith on 14:08 - Nov 20 with 1018 views | 1ASIN12 |
I dint get why Joe Shields gets credit from some.
It was him that started our down fall.
Buying the likes of Bazunu, Larios, Edozie and going into that 1st relegation season without buying a striker I shan’t count Mara. We didn’t need a load of Man City youth players .
I think he even that Melt Bella Kotchap was under his watch.
Before anyone says yes he got Lavia who we sold on for a large profit but that Summer window under Shields set us up on our downward spiral. | | | |
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